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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here but have found this thread incredibly valuable. Your remarriage question is really important - from my understanding, your children's benefits should continue unaffected since they're based on your work record, not your new spouse's. The family maximum calculation stays the same too. However, one thing to watch out for is if your new spouse adopts your children or if you adopt their children - that could potentially change how benefits are calculated since it might affect who's eligible under which parent's record. But for straightforward remarriage where the kids remain your biological children and aren't adopted by the new spouse, their benefits should continue as normal. I'd echo the advice about using Claimyr to get through to SSA - it really does work! When you call, definitely ask about remarriage scenarios specific to your situation. They can walk through exactly how it would work with your actual numbers. This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding these complex rules. The SSA website is so confusing, but hearing real experiences from people like Connor who got actual numbers makes everything much clearer. Good luck with your planning!

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Hi everyone! I'm new to this community and just wanted to say thank you for such an incredibly helpful discussion. As someone who's been completely overwhelmed trying to understand Social Security family benefits, reading through all these real experiences has been a game-changer. I'm particularly grateful for Connor sharing his actual numbers at the end - seeing that his family maximum calculation worked out favorably really helps me understand what's possible. And the point about children's benefits being based on your PIA rather than your reduced early retirement amount is something I never would have figured out from the SSA website alone. The tip about Claimyr is also incredibly valuable. Like so many others here, I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks with no success. It's frustrating that getting basic information about your own benefits is this difficult, but knowing there's a service that can help get you connected to a real person is such a relief. This community seems so much more helpful and practical than trying to navigate the government resources alone. Looking forward to learning more from everyone's experiences!

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Welcome to everyone who's new to the community! This thread has been incredibly helpful - it's exactly why I love this forum. Getting real-world examples like Connor's actual SSA numbers is so much more valuable than trying to decipher the generic information on government websites. I wanted to add one more piece of information that might be helpful for those planning their filing strategy: don't forget about the earnings test if you're filing for early retirement but still working. If you earn over the annual limit (around $22,320 in 2024), they'll reduce your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above the limit. This doesn't affect the children's benefits directly, but it can impact your own benefit amount. Also, for those asking about getting through to SSA - I second the recommendations about Claimyr, but another tip is to call right when they open at 7 AM local time. I've had better luck getting through during the first hour they're open rather than later in the day. The discussion about early filing potentially making sense with multiple young children is really eye-opening. It's one of those situations where the conventional wisdom about waiting until FRA might not apply when you factor in the family benefits timeline. Great point about having the money when you need it most for school expenses and activities!

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Thanks for mentioning the earnings test - that's such an important detail that often gets overlooked! I'm new to this community and have been following this whole discussion with great interest. The point about the $22,320 limit is crucial for anyone still working while collecting early retirement benefits. I'm curious though - when you say it doesn't affect children's benefits directly, does that mean if my own benefit gets reduced due to the earnings test, my kids would still get their full amounts based on my unreduced PIA? Or would the family maximum calculation change if my actual benefit payment is lower due to earnings? This whole thread has been incredibly educational. Like others have mentioned, getting real numbers from Connor and practical tips like the 7 AM calling strategy makes this so much more actionable than anything I've found on the SSA website. Really grateful for this community!

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I'm planning to apply for early Social Security at 62 next year as well, so this thread has been incredibly helpful! I wanted to add one thing that my neighbor mentioned when she went through this process - make sure to check if your state taxes Social Security benefits. Some states don't tax SS income at all, while others do. This could affect your overall financial planning, especially since you'll already be dealing with federal taxes on your benefits given your combined income level. It might be worth factoring this into your budget calculations alongside the federal tax implications others have mentioned. Also, I noticed someone mentioned the Annual Earnings Test earlier - just want to emphasize that this only applies while you're under Full Retirement Age. Once you hit your FRA (which will be around 67 for you), you can earn unlimited amounts without any benefit reduction. So if you can manage to keep working part-time until then, you'll have more flexibility later. Good luck with your application process! The community advice here has been amazing - I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for when I start my own application.

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Great point about state taxes on Social Security benefits! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. I'm in a state that doesn't tax SS benefits, which is a relief given how tight my budget will be. For others reading this, it's definitely worth checking your state's policy since it could make a meaningful difference in your take-home amount. The reminder about the Annual Earnings Test ending at Full Retirement Age is encouraging too. Even though I need to start at 62, knowing I'll have more earning flexibility when I hit 67 gives me some hope for improving my financial situation over time. Thanks for mentioning you're bookmarking this thread - I am too! There's been so much valuable real-world advice here that I know I'll want to reference again as I get closer to November 2025. It's reassuring to know others are going through similar planning processes.

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One additional resource that might be helpful - the SSA has a retirement estimator tool that's separate from your my Social Security account. You can access it without logging in and play around with different scenarios (like what your benefit would be at different retirement ages, or how continuing to work affects your benefits). It's not as precise as your actual earnings record, but it can help you model different "what if" scenarios as you finalize your decision to retire at 62. Sometimes seeing the numbers laid out in different ways helps confirm you're making the right choice for your situation. Also, since you mentioned your job is getting physically difficult, you might want to document any work-related health issues with your doctor. While you're planning to take regular retirement benefits, if your condition worsens significantly, you could potentially have options for disability benefits which aren't reduced for age. It's probably not necessary in your case, but having medical documentation never hurts. The advice everyone's given here about starting the application process in November 2025 and gathering documents early is spot-on. You sound like you have a solid plan and realistic expectations about the benefit reduction. Best of luck with the process!

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That retirement estimator tool sounds really useful! I'll definitely check that out to run some scenarios. Even though I'm pretty confident about starting at 62, it would be good to see the numbers laid out in different ways to confirm my decision. Your point about documenting health issues is smart advice too. My job involves a lot of physical labor and my back and knees are definitely showing the wear. I hadn't thought about keeping medical records of work-related issues, but you're right that it's good to have that documentation just in case my situation changes. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful - I feel so much more prepared now than when I first posted. I've got my timeline (November 2025), my document gathering list, and a much better understanding of the process. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and advice!

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This is such a valuable discussion! As a newcomer here, I'm really impressed by how knowledgeable and supportive this community is. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has been incredibly educational. @Cameron - I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation, but it sounds like you now have an excellent roadmap for your visit thanks to all the expert advice here. The fact that you have printed documentation showing 42 credits in February is crucial evidence that something changed in their system. I wanted to add one more thought that might help: when you go in, consider asking them to show you exactly what their screen displays for your earnings record and ask them to explain any codes or flags they see on your account. Sometimes there are notations in the system that can provide clues about what triggered changes to your record. Also, if possible, try to schedule your appointment for earlier in the day when staff might be less rushed and more able to spend time on complex cases like yours. Everyone's success stories here are really encouraging - it seems like persistence and knowing the right terminology makes all the difference with SSA issues. Wishing you the best of luck getting those missing credits restored! Please keep us posted on how it goes.

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Thank you for the warm welcome to the community and for adding such thoughtful advice! Your suggestion about asking them to show me exactly what's on their screen and explain any codes or flags is brilliant - I hadn't thought about requesting that level of transparency, but it makes perfect sense. Being able to see what they're looking at could help identify exactly what changed between February and now. The tip about scheduling early in the day is really practical too. I've definitely had better experiences with government offices when I'm one of the first appointments rather than later when everyone's tired and rushed. Reading through this entire thread has been like getting a master class in navigating SSA issues. I went from feeling completely overwhelmed and doubting myself to having a clear action plan with specific terminology and strategies. It's amazing how much more confident I feel knowing that others have dealt with similar problems and gotten them resolved. I'm planning to call first thing Monday morning to schedule my appointment (using that online scheduler someone mentioned) and will definitely post an update once I know more. Fingers crossed I'll have good news to share about getting those 9 missing credits back where they belong!

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This has been such an incredibly helpful and comprehensive discussion! As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by the wealth of knowledge and support everyone has shared. @Cameron - your situation is exactly why I joined this group. I'm approaching retirement myself and stories like yours make me realize how important it is to stay on top of our Social Security records. The fact that you have that printed statement from February showing 42 credits is going to be crucial evidence. From everything I've read here, it sounds like you have a rock-solid plan now: requesting an "earnings discrepancy investigation," bringing all your documentation, asking to see their screen with any codes/flags, and being prepared to escalate if needed. The professional insights about WEP reviews and retroactive adjustments really help explain what might have happened. I'm definitely going to start printing my Social Security statements regularly after reading this thread! And I'm bookmarking all the terminology everyone mentioned - "earnings discrepancy investigation," "complex earnings record reviews," etc. Really hoping you get those 9 missing credits restored quickly. Please update us after your appointment - your experience will help so many others who might face similar issues. The community support here is just incredible!

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I'm going through a similar situation right now as a freelance writer who just started Social Security benefits at 62. The learning curve has been steep! One thing that's helped me is setting up a simple tracking system using a basic calendar app on my phone. I log start/stop times for each work session and categorize it (writing, editing, client calls, administrative tasks). At the end of each week, I transfer the totals to a spreadsheet that calculates both my monthly hours and earnings automatically. For the seasonal work issue that several people mentioned - I've found it helpful to think of it as "capacity management." During what would normally be my busiest months, I now turn down projects that would put me over the limits and refer them to colleagues. Yes, it means less income in the short term, but it keeps me compliant and honestly has reduced my stress levels significantly. The key thing I learned from my SSA representative is that they really do take the monthly limits seriously during that first year. She emphasized that even one month over the limits can trigger a review and potential benefit withholding for that month. After hearing that, I decided it wasn't worth the risk to push the boundaries. Keep detailed records of everything - you'll be glad you did if they ever ask for documentation!

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This tracking system using a calendar app sounds really practical! I like the idea of categorizing different types of work activities - that would definitely help when SSA asks for detailed breakdowns. The automatic calculation feature in your spreadsheet is smart too. Your point about "capacity management" really resonates with me. It's a mindset shift to think about deliberately turning down work to stay compliant, but you're right that the peace of mind is probably worth more than the extra income, especially when you factor in the risk of benefit withholding. I'm curious - when you refer overflow work to colleagues, have you found that helps maintain good client relationships? I worry about disappointing clients by turning down work, but maybe positioning it as connecting them with other qualified professionals could actually strengthen those relationships long-term. Thanks for sharing such practical advice from someone who's actively managing this right now!

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As someone who's just starting to navigate this process myself, this thread has been incredibly valuable! I'm 63 and planning to start Social Security while continuing my freelance marketing consulting work. One thing I'm wondering about after reading everyone's experiences - has anyone found it helpful to work with a tax professional or financial advisor who specializes in Social Security rules for self-employed people? The complexity of tracking both earnings and hours, plus understanding the different tests and regulations, makes me think it might be worth the investment to get professional guidance. Also, for those who mentioned keeping detailed spreadsheets - do you track business expenses separately in the same system? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to organize everything so I have clean records for both SSA reporting and tax purposes. The seasonal work challenges that @f5ca75619235 and others mentioned really hit home for me too. My consulting work tends to be feast or famine, with some months requiring 60+ hours and others barely 10. It sounds like I need to start planning now to smooth out that workload before I start benefits. Thank you all for sharing such detailed, practical advice. This is exactly the kind of real-world information that's impossible to find in the official SSA publications!

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I'm also new to this whole process and completely agree about the complexity! Working with a professional who understands Social Security rules for self-employed people sounds like a smart investment. I've been trying to figure this out on my own, but the more I learn about the different tests and requirements, the more I realize I could really benefit from expert guidance. For tracking expenses, I'm planning to set up separate columns in my spreadsheet for business expenses so I can calculate net earnings more easily. From what I've read in this thread, it's the net earnings (after business expenses) that count toward the SSA limits, not gross income. So keeping those expenses well-documented could actually help us stay under the earnings limit while maintaining higher gross revenue. The seasonal workload issue is really challenging! I'm in a similar boat with my work being very project-dependent. It seems like the key is starting to plan and restructure now, before benefits begin, rather than trying to figure it out after the fact. Maybe we could even consider partnering with other freelancers to share overflow work during peak periods? This thread has definitely opened my eyes to how much preparation is needed. Thanks for asking such thoughtful questions!

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Just want to echo what others have said and add my experience - I went through this exact same situation 2 years ago at 64. The IRA withdrawal definitely doesn't affect your SS benefit amount (no reduction), but definitely plan for the tax implications. I ended up having to pay quarterly estimated taxes because my tax withholding wasn't enough once I started taking both SS and IRA distributions. You might want to consider having taxes withheld from your IRA withdrawal to avoid a big tax bill next April. Also, if you're doing traditional IRA withdrawals, remember those are fully taxable as ordinary income, which gets added to your "combined income" calculation for SS taxation. Good luck!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's a great point about quarterly estimated taxes - I hadn't thought about that at all. I'm definitely planning to do traditional IRA withdrawals, so having taxes withheld sounds like a smart move to avoid surprises. When you say you had to pay quarterly, was that because the combination of SS + IRA pushed you into a higher tax bracket, or just because there wasn't enough withholding overall? I want to make sure I plan this right from the start.

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It was mainly the withholding issue - Social Security doesn't have any taxes withheld by default (you have to request it), and my IRA custodian was only withholding 10% which wasn't nearly enough. The combination didn't push me into a dramatically higher bracket, but having two new income streams with insufficient withholding meant I owed way more than expected at tax time. I'd recommend having at least 15-20% withheld from your IRA withdrawals if you're not having anything taken out of SS. You can always adjust as you go, but it's better to get a refund than owe penalties for underpayment!

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One more thing to consider that I don't see mentioned yet - if you're planning to take Social Security at 64, you'll be taking it early (before your Full Retirement Age, which is probably 66 or 67). This means your monthly benefit will be permanently reduced by about 25-30% compared to waiting until FRA. Just wanted to make sure you're factoring that into your financial planning along with the IRA withdrawals. The good news is that the earnings test limits I see mentioned above ($22,320 for 2025) still apply, and your IRA withdrawals still won't count toward that limit even with early retirement. But the combination of reduced SS benefits plus potential taxes on those benefits might affect how much you want to withdraw from your IRA each year.

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That's such an important point about the permanent reduction! I keep going back and forth on whether to start SS at 64 vs waiting. The monthly amount would definitely be smaller, but I'm worried about needing the income now while I figure out my IRA withdrawal strategy. Do you happen to know if there's a calculator somewhere that shows the break-even point? Like how long I'd need to live to make waiting until FRA worth it? I know everyone's situation is different, but it would help me think through the math with my specific numbers.

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