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One more crucial point that hasn't been mentioned: If you do decide to take early retirement while waiting for a disability decision, make absolutely sure you still attend your disability hearing if one is scheduled. Some people mistakenly think that once they start receiving retirement benefits, their disability case is closed. It's not! You need to follow through with the disability process to completion. If you don't show up for your hearing, your disability case will be dismissed, and you'll be permanently stuck with the reduced retirement benefit. Also, keep in mind that SSDI appeals at the hearing level are currently taking 12-18 months in most areas. So if you're already at the appeal stage, you might want to factor that timeline into your decision.

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That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. I'll definitely keep pursuing the disability case regardless of what I decide about early retirement. The hearing wait times are just so discouraging though - another 12-18 months would put me well past 62.

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Just wanted to add something about the spousal benefit option you mentioned. Based on my experience, the spousal benefit at age 62 would be significantly reduced - approximately 30-35% of your wife's PIA instead of the full 50% you'd get at your full retirement age. When I was trying to decide, I found that my own early retirement benefit was actually higher than the reduced spousal benefit I qualified for through my husband. It's worth checking both calculations. SSA will actually give you the higher of the two amounts automatically when you apply. Another thing to consider - if your disability is approved and your established onset date is before age 62, you might be eligible for more backpay than you realize. Mine went back almost 2 years before I applied for early retirement.

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BE CAREFUL!!!! My brother-in-law got hit with a HUGE overpayment bill because he misunderstood how this works! Make sure you report your earnings to SSA right away when you start benefits. They don't find out about your earnings until tax time the NEXT YEAR and by then you could owe thousands back if you went over the limit!!

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This is a valid concern. To avoid potential overpayments, you should proactively report to SSA if you expect to exceed the monthly earnings limit in any month. You can do this through your my Social Security account online, by calling, or visiting an office. It's always better to report changes in advance than to deal with an overpayment later.

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Just to add - when you do hit the earnings limit, they don't take away your entire benefit. They withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. So if you go over by $1,000 in a month, they'd withhold $500 in benefits.

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That's less harsh than I thought! So I could potentially work a bit more and just accept a reduced benefit. That gives me more flexibility.

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Jacob Lee

You don't need to delay your application. If you apply for benefits to start at your FRA in August 2025, your 2024 earnings will definitely be included in your initial benefit calculation. Your earnings from 2024 should be posted to your record by mid-2025, well before your benefits would start. If for some reason they weren't included initially, SSA would automatically recalculate and adjust your benefit retroactively once those earnings are posted.

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That's such a relief! I was worried I might need to delay applying or would miss out on the higher amount. Thank you for clearing that up!

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My uncles neighbor kept working til he was 70 and his ss check went up by almost $1000 a month from his first estimate at 62!!!! they say wait if u can afford too

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Jacob Lee

The increase your uncle's neighbor saw was likely due to three separate factors working together: 1) Delayed retirement credits (approximately 8% per year from FRA to 70), 2) Additional high-earning years replacing lower years in the 35-year calculation, and 3) Any COLAs (Cost of Living Adjustments) that occurred during the delay period. Together, these can indeed result in substantially higher benefits for those who can afford to wait until 70.

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congrats on having a good 401k! thats amazing these days

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Thank you! I was fortunate to work for a company with a good matching program and started contributing early. It definitely provides peace of mind now.

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One additional factor to consider: If you wait until December 2025, you'll also be positioned better for any Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) that takes effect in January 2026. The COLA will apply to your higher base amount, further increasing the long-term advantage of waiting that extra month. With inflation patterns the way they've been, even a modest 2-3% COLA would add meaningful additional benefits over time.

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That's an excellent point I hadn't considered! Getting the COLA on the higher amount would definitely amplify the benefit of waiting. Thank you for that insight!

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my mother in law got widow benefits and she says they look at what age ur husband was when he started getting SS. if he took it early they base widow benefits on that reduced amount. but if he waited til 70 like my father in law did she gets the bigger amount he was getting when he died. did ur husband take SS at his full retirement age or early or late?

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He took his benefits at 64 and a half, which was about a year and a half before his FRA. So I guess that means any survivor benefits would be based on that slightly reduced amount he's receiving now. Thanks for bringing that up - that's another important factor I hadn't considered!

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Just to wrap things up for you: 1. You can take your own retirement at 63 (reduced amount) 2. If your husband passes away, you can switch to survivor benefits 3. Those survivor benefits would be based on what your husband was receiving (which is slightly reduced since he filed at 64.5) 4. BUT, your survivor benefit would also be reduced if you take it before your FRA (67) 5. If you wait until your FRA to take survivor benefits, you'd get 100% of what your husband was receiving The key is to look at both benefits as separate decisions. The optimal strategy usually involves taking the smaller benefit first and the larger one later. In most cases, waiting until FRA for survivor benefits makes financial sense if you can afford to do so.

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Thank you for this clear summary! This helps so much. I think I'm going to go ahead with claiming my own benefits at 63 as planned, and then if something happens to my husband (hopefully many years from now), I'll make a decision about survivor benefits based on my age at that time. Having this understanding gives me much more confidence in my retirement planning.

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i stil think this is so unfair!!! you worked all those years serving the public and now you get PUNISHED for it. and they wonder why people don't trust the government!!!

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Again, it's not punishment. CSRS employees didn't pay Social Security taxes on their government earnings, so they didn't contribute to the system. The offset prevents double-dipping. It's actually fair when you understand the purpose of the various benefits. What would be unfair is if someone who never contributed to Social Security through their primary job got the same spousal benefits as someone who worked their whole career in the private sector paying Social Security taxes. Different systems, different funding mechanisms.

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I want to thank everyone for their insights. I'm going to go ahead and apply now, even though it looks like I might not get anything after the GPO reduction with my CSRS pension. At least I'll know for sure, and there's always the small chance there might be some special circumstance I'm not aware of that could result in a small benefit. Since there's no advantage to waiting longer, I might as well get an official determination.

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Liv Park

That's the right approach. Also, while you're at it, make sure to check if you qualify for Medicare Part A without premiums. Even CSRS employees who don't qualify for Social Security benefits might still qualify for premium-free Part A if their spouse is eligible for Social Security. You should specifically ask about this when you contact SSA about your spousal benefits application.

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when i went thru this i had to ask for a REVIEW of my file not just talk to the phone people cuz they kept getting it wrong

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My situation was kinda similar but I was the younger spouse. The key thing is that your benefit at 62 is permanently reduced, but that doesn't prevent you from getting the difference if the spousal benefit would be higher. But if your own benefit is already higher than 50% of his, then there's no extra money to be had. The 35-year marriage definitely qualifies you though - the 10 year rule is only for divorced spouses.

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Thank you - that's helpful! I'm realizing based on everyone's responses that my own benefit is probably going to be higher than what I'd get as a spouse anyway.

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Make absolutely sure you apply specifically for the survivor benefit and not retirement benefits. They're different applications! I've heard stories of people accidentally applying for their own retirement instead of survivor benefits and it caused all kinds of problems. When you get your appointment, be very clear you're applying for survivor/widow benefits based on your husband's record.

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Thank you all so much for the helpful information! I've made an appointment at my local SSA office for next week, and I'm gathering all the documents that were suggested. I'm going to explore that strategy of taking survivor benefits now and then possibly switching to my own later - that might work best for my situation. If I have trouble getting through to check on my application status after I apply, I might try that Claimyr service mentioned above. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and advice!

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What was your husband's FRA, and had he already filed for benefits before passing away? This could affect your survivor benefit amount. Also, have you checked if you'd qualify for the Lump Sum Death Payment of $255? It's not much but it's something many people don't know to claim.

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My husband was 68 when he passed and had already started his benefits at 67. I did receive the lump sum death payment shortly after he died - you're right that it's not much, but every little bit helped during that difficult time.

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Raj Gupta

make sure you know how much ur getting!!! i thought id be getting 2600/mo on my husbands record but it was actually only 2165 because of some weird calculation about his benefit and my earnings?? big shock when that first payment came in! definitely ask them to calculate the exact amount before you decide

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That's a good point. The survivor benefit is generally the higher of 82.5% of the deceased spouse's benefit if taken before your FRA, or 100% of what the deceased was receiving if you claim at your FRA or later. But there can be reductions based on other factors too. Definitely ask for an estimate during your application process.

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wait I just remembered something important!!! if ur turning 62 soon make sure u understand deemed filing!!! the rules changed after 2015 and now if u file for ANY benefit they automatically make u file for ALL benefits ur eligible for! so u cant do that strategy where u take spousal first then switch to ur own later like people used to do!!

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This is an excellent point about deemed filing rules! Under current rules (for people born after January 1, 1954), when you file for either retirement or spousal benefits, you're deemed to have filed for both. The only exception is for surviving spouses claiming survivor benefits, which aren't subject to deemed filing rules.

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If your husband is 64 and receiving survivor benefits, and you're turning 62, you might want to consider a 2-step strategy that could maximize your household benefits over time: 1) You file for your reduced retirement benefit at 62 (accepting the reduction) 2) When your husband reaches 70, he switches to his own retirement benefit (maximized with delayed credits) which then triggers your eligibility for potentially higher spousal benefits While you'd have a permanent reduction on your own benefit from filing early, the years of receiving some benefit (rather than nothing) plus the eventual higher spousal amount might work out better financially depending on your specific benefit amounts and life expectancy. I'd recommend sitting down with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies to review all your options with actual numbers.

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Aria Khan

I really appreciate this suggested strategy! I hadn't thought about having him delay until 70 for maximum benefits. We'll definitely talk to a financial planner about running the numbers. There are so many moving parts to consider!

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