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I'm completely lost trying to figure out spousal benefits! I started collecting my Social Security at 62 (I know, probably a mistake) because I needed the income after some health issues. I'm 68 now, and my monthly check is only $1,580. My husband is 69 and planning to file for his benefits next month. Based on his earnings history as an engineer, his benefit will be around $3,400 per month. I've heard conflicting things about whether I can get some of his higher benefit since I took mine early. Someone told me I'm permanently reduced to only getting like 30% of his amount because I filed before my FRA. Is that right? Does this mean the total I'd get between my own benefit and the spousal portion can't exceed 30% of his benefit? I'm so confused about how this calculation works! Would appreciate if anyone who's been through this could explain in plain English what I might qualify for. Do I need to contact SSA directly to apply for the spousal benefit once he files?
I'm trying to understand my widow benefits situation and got conflicting information from SSA. My husband passed away in October 2025 and I'm approaching my full retirement age (FRA) in August 2026. We were married for about 15 months before he died. He was previously married for 14 years to his ex-wife. When I called the SSA office to discuss my widow benefits, the rep told me something I hadn't expected. According to them, I wouldn't get 100% of my husband's Social Security when I reach FRA. Instead, they said I'd receive my own benefit plus 50% of his, while his ex-wife would get the other 50% of his benefit. This doesn't match what I've read online about widow benefits. I thought surviving spouses get 100% of the deceased's benefit at FRA. Is the split with the ex-wife really how it works? Does his ex-wife's claim affect what I can receive as his widow? I'm confused and worried about planning my retirement now.
my friend says if u were married less than 10 years u get less. but i think thats for divorce not death???
Your friend is confusing different benefits. The 10-year marriage requirement is for divorced spouse benefits (both regular and survivor). For widow/widower benefits after a death, there's only a 9-month marriage requirement in most cases. For the original poster: Since you were married for 15 months before your husband passed away, you satisfy the duration requirement for full widow benefits at your FRA.
I called SSA again this morning and spoke with a different representative. They confirmed what most of you said - I'm eligible for 100% of my husband's benefit at my FRA regardless of what his ex-wife may receive. They explained the first representative confused spousal and survivor benefits rules. They also confirmed our 15-month marriage satisfies the 9-month requirement. I'll be able to choose between my own retirement benefit or the survivor benefit, whichever is higher. I'm so relieved and grateful for everyone's help here! It's frustrating to get incorrect information that caused me unnecessary worry.
Glad you got it sorted out! One more tip: when you approach your FRA, consider whether you want to: 1. Take your own retirement benefit now and switch to the survivor benefit at your FRA OR 2. Take the survivor benefit now and switch to your own retirement benefit later (up to age 70) if your own benefit would grow to be larger Unlike regular retirement benefits where you must take both benefits at once, with survivor benefits you can switch between your own and the survivor benefit to maximize your lifetime payout. This is one of the few remaining "claiming strategies" still available after the 2015 law changes.
That's such great news! I'm so sorry you had to go through that stress and confusion during an already difficult time. It's really unfortunate how inconsistent the information can be from SSA representatives. I'd recommend keeping detailed notes from this second call, including the rep's name and employee ID if they provided it. That way if any questions come up later, you'll have documentation of the correct information you were given. Sometimes it helps to have that paper trail when dealing with government benefits. Wishing you the best as you navigate this process!
Just wanted to share something that saved me DAYS of frustration trying to deal with my disability backpay issue. For the past month, I've been calling the national Social Security 1-800 number every other day, sometimes waiting on hold for 3+ hours only to get disconnected or told they couldn't help with my specific situation. Complete nightmare! Yesterday out of desperation, I drove to my local SSA office (even though I knew they weren't taking walk-ins). The security guard wouldn't let me in without an appointment BUT he gave me their direct office phone number! I called from the parking lot and got through to an actual person in less than 15 minutes who had access to my full SSDI file! They resolved my backpay question immediately and even scheduled me for an in-person appointment next week to handle the remaining issues.I had no idea local offices had separate phone numbers from the national line. If you're stuck in 800-number hell, try going to your local office and asking for their direct number!
Thank you!!! Her employer has like 200 employees so it sounds like I might be ok to delay Part B? I'll definitely call the local office tomorrow to make sure!
This is such valuable information! I wish I had known about local office direct numbers years ago. I've been dealing with Social Security issues for my elderly parents and have spent countless hours on hold with the 800 number. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to help someone who depends on these benefits and you can't get through to anyone who can actually help. I'm definitely going to try visiting our local office to get their direct number - even if it means driving there just to ask the security guard. The fact that these numbers aren't publicly available seems deliberately obstructive. Thank you for sharing this tip, it could save so many people from the endless hold times and runaround!
I lost my husband 3 weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out my Social Security options. He was receiving SSDI for the past 4 years. We were only married for 9 months when he passed away. I just turned 66 last month and was planning to file for my own retirement benefits soon. I've heard there's normally a 9-month marriage requirement for survivor benefits, but wasn't sure if this applies when the person was on disability. Does anyone know if I qualify for survivor benefits since we just hit that 9-month mark? Would his SSDI payment be higher than what I'd get on my own record? I tried calling the SSA office three times but got disconnected after waiting for over an hour each time.
Update: I called SSA again today and finally got through after a 2.5 hour wait! The agent confirmed I do qualify for survivor benefits since we were married exactly 9 months. She said I can receive 100% of his benefit amount since I'm at full retirement age for survivors. I have an appointment next week to complete the application. Thank you everyone for your help and advice!
That's excellent news! Make sure to bring your marriage certificate, his death certificate, and both of your Social Security cards/numbers to the appointment. Also bring your birth certificate and a direct deposit form with your banking information to ensure smooth processing. Wishing you all the best during this difficult time.
Maya, I'm so glad you were able to get through and get confirmation about your eligibility! That 2.5 hour wait sounds absolutely brutal, but it's great that the agent confirmed you qualify for the full survivor benefit. Just wanted to add that when you go to your appointment, it might be helpful to ask about when your first payment will arrive - sometimes there can be a processing delay of several weeks. Also, since you mentioned you were planning to file for your own retirement benefits anyway, you might want to ask them to run the numbers on both scenarios to make sure the survivor benefit is indeed the better option for your specific situation. Best of luck with your appointment next week!
I'm approaching 62 in March and trying to figure out if collecting Social Security early is even realistic with my situation. I'm a self-employed mental health counselor with my own private practice (just me, no staff). I bill insurance companies directly and receive 1099s, not W-2s. My big confusion: I know SS has that substantial earnings limit where you can only make $22,320/year before they start deducting benefits. But I've also read something about a "15 hours per week" rule for self-employed people? Does this mean I could theoretically work 15 hours or less weekly seeing clients but still earn over the yearly limit without penalty? Or does the dollar amount always apply regardless? Also, I'm honestly getting burned out after 25+ years in this field. If I gradually reduce my client load over the next 4-5 years (regardless of whether I take SS early), how will this income reduction affect what I'll get at my Full Retirement Age (66 and 8 months)? Will my benefit amount drop significantly if my Schedule C shows lower income these final working years? The SSA website explanations about self-employment are so confusing I just end up more lost every time I read them.
Thank you all SO much for these insights. I'm learning toward waiting until my FRA now to avoid the headache of documentation and possible disputes with SSA. But if I do decide to claim early, I'll definitely: 1. Get professional advice about structuring my practice 2. Set up meticulous documentation of all work hours 3. Create clear boundaries showing reduced work schedule 4. Use that Claimyr service to actually speak with someone at SSA before making my decision Never realized what a complicated mess this would be as a self-employed person. The SSA publications make it seem much simpler than it actually is in practice!
That sounds like a prudent approach. One final recommendation: regardless of when you claim benefits, consider a consultation with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies. Sometimes the optimal claiming age isn't obvious and depends on your overall financial situation, health status, and life expectancy. The few hundred dollars for specialized advice could potentially translate to tens of thousands in lifetime benefits.
As someone who's been through the self-employment SS claiming process, I'd strongly recommend creating a detailed work log NOW, even if you don't claim for another year or two. I wish I had started documenting earlier - SSA wanted records going back months when I applied. For your therapy practice specifically, track: actual client session hours, documentation/notes time, insurance billing hours, and any administrative work. Also note when you're genuinely "off" - weekends, evenings, vacation days. This creates a clear picture of reduced work activity that SSA looks for. One thing that helped me was establishing set office hours (like 9-3, M-Th only) and sticking to them religiously. It shows intentional retirement from full-time work, not just temporary reduced income. Your gradual client reduction plan over 4-5 years could work well if properly documented as a retirement transition rather than just business fluctuation. The burnout factor is real - sometimes the peace of mind from claiming early (even with reduced benefits) outweighs the financial optimization of waiting. Just make sure you understand exactly what you're getting into with the earnings test compliance.
Paolo Longo
Just to clarify for everyone in this thread - the spousal benefit maximum is 50% of the higher-earning spouse's PIA (their benefit amount at full retirement age). If the higher earner delayed claiming past FRA and gets delayed retirement credits, the spouse does NOT get 50% of that higher amount. This is a very common misunderstanding I see with clients. If your husband's FRA benefit was $2,800 but he gets $3,400 because he delayed claiming, your spousal benefit calculation would be based on the $2,800 figure, not the $3,400. Also, if you call SSA about this, make sure to speak with someone who specifically understands spousal benefits. Not all representatives are equally knowledgeable about these complex calculations.
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Connor Gallagher
This is true! When my wife got her spousal increase they used my FRA amount not my age 70 amount for the calculation. The extra money from delaying only helps the person who delayed.
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Ryder Everingham
I'm in a very similar situation and just went through this process! I took my SS at 62 and got $1,420/month. My husband filed at his FRA last year with a benefit of $2,900. When he filed, SSA automatically reviewed my case and I started getting an additional $78/month as a spousal benefit. What really helped me understand it was getting my actual benefit statements from SSA showing my PIA before reduction. Turns out my PIA was $1,850, and 50% of my husband's PIA was $1,450. So I qualified for the $200 difference ($1,450 - $1,250 which was my PIA minus early reduction penalty), but that $200 was also reduced for my early filing, bringing it down to about $78. I didn't have to do anything - the extra amount just started showing up in my direct deposit about 6 weeks after my husband's first payment. They sent me a letter explaining the calculation about 2 weeks before the first adjusted payment. Definitely worth waiting to see what happens when your husband files before getting too worried about it!
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