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I'm trying to figure out the exact timing for my wife and me to apply for Social Security benefits, and the SSA website isn't very clear. I've got two specific questions: 1) I want to start my retirement benefits at exactly age 65 (my birthday is July 18). When using the online application, you can only select the month to start benefits, not a specific age. If I select July as my start month, will this actually process me for the full age-65 amount? Or would I get some reduced amount because I'm technically not 65 for the entire month? 2) My wife plans to wait until her Full Retirement Age (which is 6 months after I start my benefits) to apply for spousal benefits. Does she need to apply for her own retirement benefits first and then switch to spousal? Or can she directly apply for spousal benefits in her FRA month? Also, will the online application get delayed because they need to verify our marriage certificate? We're trying to plan this carefully since our local SSA office is appointment-only now (no walk-ins), and we want to avoid any surprises or delays. Anyone been through this recently?
I'm turning 65 in three months and want to maximize my Social Security options. At lunch yesterday, my coworker mentioned that I could start collecting my late husband's Social Security benefits while I continue working full-time, then switch to my own benefits later when I actually retire at 67 or 70. My husband passed away 4 years ago. Is this actually possible? I always thought I couldn't touch any Social Security until I stopped working. I earn about $72,000 annually at my current job. Would really appreciate any clarification on this - I don't want to miss out on benefits I'm entitled to, but also don't want to mess up my own future benefits either.
Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I've learned so much. Based on your advice, I'm going to: 1. Schedule an appointment with SSA to get exact calculations for my situation 2. Consider taking reduced survivor benefits now, even with the earnings test reduction 3. Plan to receive full survivor benefits when I reach my FRA at 67 4. Switch to my own retirement benefit at 70 if it would be higher It sounds like this approach will allow me to get some additional income now while maximizing my benefits in the long run. I'll update after my SSA appointment if I learn anything else useful!
Great summary of your plan, Yuki! Just wanted to add one more consideration - make sure to ask SSA about any potential tax implications when you meet with them. Since you'll be receiving survivor benefits while still working and earning $72K, the combined income might push you into a higher tax bracket or make more of your Social Security benefits taxable. It's not a reason to avoid claiming the benefits, but it's good to factor into your overall financial planning. Also, keep all your documentation from the appointment - I've found it helpful to have written confirmation of what they tell you in case you need to reference it later or if you get conflicting information from different representatives.
I started receiving Social Security survivor benefits for my daughter last March after her father (my ex-husband) passed away. I'm trying to get my taxes done early this year and realized I have no idea if these payments are considered MY income that I need to report? The payments go into my account but they're technically for my daughter who's 12. I haven't received any tax forms from the SSA like a 1099 or anything. Do they typically send those out for child survivor benefits? Or are these payments even taxable for me at all? My tax situation is usually pretty straightforward and I do my own filing, but this has me confused.
Just to add a bit more info - as the representative payee, you should have received a "Representative Payee Report" form from SSA to complete each year. This isn't a tax form, but it's the SSA's way of making sure the benefits are being used properly for your daughter. Make sure you complete and return that form when it arrives (usually around the anniversary of when you began receiving benefits). The SSA can suspend payments if they don't receive this form.
I went through something similar when my nephew came to live with me after his mom passed. One thing I learned that might help - even though you don't report the survivor benefits on YOUR tax return, it's still a good idea to keep records of all the payments. I created a simple folder with the monthly benefit statements and any correspondence from SSA. This helped me when I had to complete that representative payee report form someone mentioned, and it's also useful if you ever need to show proof of income for things like school lunch programs or other assistance programs your daughter might be eligible for. The benefits often qualify kids for reduced-price meals and other programs, so having that documentation handy can be really helpful.
Getting a bit worried about my Social Security benefits not reflecting recent work. I set up my mySocialSecurity account back in 2022, and I've been checking it periodically to see what I'll receive at my Full Retirement Age. The strange thing is, the estimated benefit amount hasn't changed AT ALL in these past 3 years, even though I've been working full-time and there have been COLA increases. I'm planning to start collecting around July 2025 (turning 67 next August), so I know I need to schedule an appointment with SSA probably by April or May. Should I expect my actual benefit to be higher than what's showing in my account? Does the SSA online system just not update regularly, or is something wrong with my account? I'm wondering if my recent earnings and the COLA adjustments from the past few years are being calculated correctly.
When you make your appointment in April, bring your most recent W-2s or tax returns for the past 3 years. This will help ensure all your recent earnings are properly credited. In the meantime, you can get a rough idea of your benefit by taking the current estimate and adding the COLA increases: - 2023 COLA: 8.7% - 2024 COLA: 3.2% - 2025 COLA: Not yet announced So if your current estimate is $2,650, it might be closer to $2,960 after accounting for recent COLAs and earnings (depending on your specific situation). I recommend applying 3 months before you want benefits to begin, so your April timeline sounds perfect for a July start date.
This is such a common issue! I went through the exact same thing with my mySocialSecurity account showing the same benefit estimate for over 2 years. What I learned is that the SSA typically updates their earnings database in batches, usually in the fall after they receive all the W-2 data from employers. The good news is that when you apply, they'll use your complete, up-to-date earnings record to calculate your actual benefit. This includes all your recent work history and applies every COLA adjustment since you turned 62. I've seen people get pleasant surprises of $200-400 more per month than their online estimate showed. One tip: when you go to your appointment, ask them to walk through how they calculated your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). They should be able to show you exactly which years of earnings they used and how the COLA adjustments were applied. This will give you confidence that everything was calculated correctly. Your April appointment timeline is perfect for a July benefit start date. Don't stress too much about the outdated online estimate - you'll likely be pleasantly surprised by your actual benefit amount!
I'm getting ready to apply for my Social Security retirement benefits next month (turning 67). My ex and I were married for 22 years before divorcing in 2010, but I've been told my own benefit amount will be higher than any spousal benefit I could get from his record. My financial advisor mentioned that since my own FRA benefit exceeds half of my ex-husband's, I won't qualify for any spousal "top-off" amount. Do I still need to dig up all those old documents (birth certificate, marriage certificate, divorce decree) for the SSA application if I'm not going to receive any ex-spousal benefits? Getting copies of these will be a hassle since we married in another state and I'd have to contact county offices I haven't dealt with in decades. Just wondering if anyone knows if SSA will still require all this documentation even when they know up front I won't qualify for spousal benefits? Thanks for any insights!
I went through a similar situation last year when I applied at 66. I was also divorced after a long marriage but my own benefit was higher. The key is being very clear and consistent about what you're applying for. When I applied online, I answered "No" to all questions about wanting benefits based on a former spouse's record. I only submitted my birth certificate initially. However, about 3 weeks later, SSA called me for a phone interview to verify my application details. The representative asked if I had ever been married, and when I said yes, they explained they needed to document my marital history "for their records" even though I wouldn't get spousal benefits. I ended up having to provide my marriage certificate and divorce decree anyway, but it didn't delay my benefits - they processed everything while waiting for those documents. So my advice would be to start getting those documents now, but don't let it delay your application. You can submit your birth certificate and application first, then send the marriage docs when you get them.
I just went through this process myself about 6 months ago and wanted to share my experience! I was in almost exactly the same situation - divorced after a long marriage but my own benefit was higher than any potential spousal benefit. I decided to call SSA first before applying (used that Claimyr service someone mentioned - worked great!) and spoke with a really helpful representative. I explained my situation clearly: "I'm only applying for retirement benefits on my own work record and I'm not seeking any benefits based on my ex-spouse's record." The rep told me that since I was being explicit about not wanting spousal benefits, I would only need my birth certificate for the initial application. However, she also mentioned that if the topic of my previous marriage came up during processing, they might still request documentation "for completeness of records." I ended up getting my marriage certificate and divorce decree anyway (through my state's online system - took about 10 days and cost $30 total), and I'm so glad I did! Sure enough, about 3 weeks after my online application, I got a call asking for those documents even though my benefits weren't affected by them. Having them ready meant no delays - my first payment came right on schedule. The whole process from application to first payment took about 6 weeks total. My advice: call first, be crystal clear about your intentions, but get those documents ready just in case!
Ethan Wilson
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. I think I understand the process better now: 1) For my application, I'll select July as my start month to begin benefits at age 65. 2) For my wife, she'll wait until her FRA and then apply directly for spousal benefits. 3) We'll need to have our marriage certificate ready, and it sounds like an in-person appointment might be the way to go to avoid delays. I'll definitely look into that Claimyr service if we run into trouble making an appointment or getting through on the phone lines. Thanks again for all the advice!
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Yuki Tanaka
Sounds like you've got it figured out! One last tip - schedule any in-person appointments as far in advance as possible. Our local office was booking 3-4 weeks out when we applied last year. Good luck!
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Axel Bourke
Just want to add one more thing that helped us - when you're ready to apply, try to do it early in the month rather than waiting until the end. We applied on the 5th of the month and our benefits started that same month. But I've heard from others that if you apply too late in the month (like after the 15th), your benefits might not start until the following month, which could delay everything by a month. Also, make sure you have all your documents ready before you start the online application - it times out if you take too long to complete it, and you'll have to start over. We learned that the hard way!
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