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As someone who just joined this community, I have to say this thread has been incredibly enlightening! I'm 65 and considering starting my Social Security benefits while continuing to work part-time as a consultant. Reading through everyone's experiences has really helped me understand how the earnings limit actually works in practice. What I find most reassuring is learning that SSA doesn't have some kind of real-time monitoring system that immediately cuts off your benefits the moment you earn too much. The "pay first, reconcile later" approach makes so much more sense than what I was imagining! The practical tips shared here are fantastic - the spreadsheet tracking, buffer savings account, and even the possibility of negotiating withholding schedules are all strategies I'll definitely keep in mind. It's also helpful to know that any withheld benefits get added back to your monthly amount once you reach Full Retirement Age. @Zara Shah - thank you for asking this question! Your anxiety was completely understandable, and by sharing it, you've helped so many of us better understand this confusing system. This community really shows how valuable it is to learn from people who've actually navigated these challenges rather than trying to decode government websites alone.

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Welcome to the community, @GalacticGuru! I'm so happy to hear that this discussion has been helpful for you as well. It's wonderful that people considering their Social Security timing can benefit from all the real-world experiences shared here. Your point about not having a real-time monitoring system is exactly what I needed to understand too. I was imagining some kind of immediate automated response that just doesn't exist! The consulting work sounds like a great way to transition into retirement while still staying active professionally. What I love most about this community is how everyone's willingness to share their experiences creates this valuable knowledge base that none of us could get from official sources alone. I went from panicking about my January check to feeling completely confident about managing my earnings throughout 2025. Thank you for the kind words about my question - I'm so glad it sparked such a helpful discussion for everyone! Best of luck with your decision on when to start your benefits. With all the great strategies shared here, you'll be well-prepared regardless of when you choose to begin collecting.

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As a new member of this community, I want to express my gratitude for this incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! I'm 63 and just started collecting Social Security last month while working part-time at a retail job making about $1,900/month. Like many others here, I was really anxious about the earnings limit and how it all works. Reading through all these responses has been so reassuring - especially understanding that SSA operates on a "pay first, reconcile later" basis and that they don't have real-time monitoring of our earnings. The practical strategies shared here are invaluable: tracking earnings with a spreadsheet, setting up a buffer savings account, and knowing that you can potentially negotiate withholding schedules if needed. What strikes me most is how this community has transformed what seemed like a confusing and scary bureaucratic process into something totally manageable with the right knowledge. The fact that withheld benefits aren't lost forever but get added back at Full Retirement Age is something I never understood from the official SSA materials. @Zara Shah - your original question perfectly captured the anxiety so many of us feel when navigating this system for the first time. Thanks for being brave enough to ask and creating such a valuable resource for all of us!

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Welcome to the community, @Isabella Santos! It's so reassuring to see how many of us are in similar situations - working part-time while navigating Social Security benefits for the first time. Your earnings at $1,900/month put you in almost the exact same position as several of us here, which shows this is such a common concern. I completely agree that this discussion has transformed something that felt overwhelming into something manageable. When I first posted my question, I was genuinely panicking about my January check potentially being withheld. Now I understand the actual timeline and process, and I'm even implementing some of the great strategies shared here like the earnings tracking spreadsheet. The "pay first, reconcile later" concept really was the game-changer for understanding how this all works. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you hear from people who've actually been through it rather than trying to decode the official government explanations alone. Thanks for adding your voice to this conversation - it just reinforces how valuable this community knowledge-sharing is for all of us navigating these benefits for the first time!

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Since you'll be 65 in April 2025, your Full Retirement Age is actually 67 (for people born in 1960 or later). Keep in mind that claiming at 65 means you'll get approximately 86.7% of your full benefit amount. Also remember that the annual earnings limit for 2025 will likely be around $23,000 if you're under FRA the entire year. Since you'll only have $15,000 in wages that count toward this limit, you should be fine even without considering the pension (which, as others have correctly noted, doesn't count toward the earnings test).

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Yes, I know I'm taking a reduction by claiming early, but I've done the calculations and it makes sense for my situation. Health issues in my family history make me doubt I'll reach the "break-even" age. Thanks for confirming the earnings limit information too!

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I just wanted to add that you might want to consider timing your retirement strategically around the earnings test. Since you're retiring in March and only working part of the year, SSA uses a monthly earnings test for the first year you retire (if it's more favorable). For 2025, this would be around $1,920 per month. Since you'll be done working by March, any months where you earn under this amount won't count against you - even if your annual total exceeds the yearly limit. This could potentially give you even more flexibility with your early retirement timing!

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That's really helpful information about the monthly earnings test! I hadn't heard about that before. So if I understand correctly, since I'm retiring in March, SSA would look at my monthly earnings for each month rather than my total annual earnings? That sounds like it could definitely work in my favor since I won't be earning anything after March. Do you know where I can find more details about how this monthly test works for the retirement year?

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As someone who just joined this community, I have to say this thread has been absolutely incredible! I'm 64 and approaching my FRA of 66 and 6 months, and I was completely overwhelmed trying to understand the Social Security rules about working while collecting benefits. The SSA website made it so confusing with all the technical language. What's been amazing is reading all these real-world experiences from people who are actually living this situation successfully. The key insight that really clicked for me is understanding there are essentially two phases - before FRA where earnings limits apply, and after FRA where there are NO limits whatsoever. Seeing people like Connor, Yara, Danielle, and others share their actual experiences of working while collecting full benefits after reaching their FRA gives me complete confidence. I'm planning to continue my part-time real estate work that brings in about $42,000 annually, and now I know that once I hit my exact FRA date, I can earn that amount (or even more) without losing a single penny of my Social Security benefits. Thank you everyone for being so generous with sharing your personal experiences - it's exactly what newcomers like me need to make informed decisions about our retirement planning!

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Welcome to the community, Zoe! As another newcomer who just discovered this incredibly helpful thread, I completely understand that overwhelming feeling when trying to navigate the SSA website. The technical jargon really does make it unnecessarily complicated! What's been so reassuring to me is seeing the unanimous consistency in everyone's real-world experiences - not a single person has reported any issues with earning unlimited income after reaching their exact FRA. Your plan to continue your $42,000 real estate work sounds very similar to what many others here have done successfully. The two-phase framework you mentioned really is the key to understanding everything - it cuts through all the confusion and makes the rules crystal clear. Reading about people earning anywhere from $28,000 to $70,000+ while receiving their full benefits after FRA gives me such confidence in my own retirement planning. Thank you for adding your voice to this discussion - it's great to connect with others who are in similar situations and finding clarity through this amazing community!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my gratitude for this incredibly informative thread! I'm 63 and planning to file at my FRA of 66 and 10 months while continuing my freelance writing business that brings in about $38,000 annually. Reading through everyone's real-world experiences has completely eliminated my anxiety about working after filing for benefits. What really resonates with me is how consistent everyone's experience has been - once you reach your exact FRA, there truly are NO earnings limits whatsoever. The distinction between the "before FRA" phase (with earnings restrictions) and the "after FRA" phase (complete freedom to earn any amount) is so much clearer now thanks to all of you sharing your personal stories. Seeing people successfully work in various capacities - from consulting to teaching to accounting - while receiving their full Social Security benefits gives me complete confidence in my retirement planning. The peace of mind this provides is invaluable, especially since the SSA website can be so overwhelming with all its technical language. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their experiences - it's exactly what someone new to Social Security planning needs to make informed decisions!

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I'm new to this community and wanted to add my experience from recently going through a similar process with my grandson. One thing that really helped me was creating a "custody timeline" document that clearly showed the emergency nature of the placement - dates of when problems started with the parents, when custody became necessary, court dates, when the children moved in, etc. The SSA representative said this timeline helped them understand why the normal one-year support requirement shouldn't apply in our case. It painted a clear picture that this wasn't a planned arrangement but an emergency response to protect the children. Also, I found that contacting my state senator's office was incredibly helpful when I got stuck in bureaucratic loops. They have caseworkers specifically for constituent services who know how to navigate federal agencies. They can't change the rules, but they were able to get me an expedited appointment and made sure my application was being processed properly. Diego, your situation with the difficult family circumstances sounds like it would definitely qualify for emergency exceptions. Keep pushing - these kids are lucky to have you fighting for them, and based on everyone's experiences here, persistence really does pay off! The system is frustrating but there are ways through it.

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Welcome to the community! Your idea about creating a "custody timeline" document is brilliant - I hadn't thought about organizing the information that way, but it makes so much sense to clearly show the emergency progression of events. That kind of documentation would really help demonstrate why normal waiting periods shouldn't apply. I'm also encouraged to hear about your success with your state senator's office. Several people have mentioned contacting representatives, but it's helpful to hear a specific success story about getting an expedited appointment through that route. When you're feeling stuck in endless phone loops with SSA, having another pathway to get actual help is invaluable. As someone new to this system, I'm really grateful for all the detailed strategies everyone has shared here - from the expense tracking spreadsheets to the daily care logs, calling time strategies, and now the timeline documentation approach. It's giving me a much more comprehensive plan for organizing my case before I even apply. Diego, I hope you're taking notes on all these excellent suggestions! Between the emergency nature of your situation and all these documentation strategies, it sounds like you have a strong case for getting the support your grandchildren need.

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share some encouragement and a resource that helped me when I was in a similar situation with my grandniece last year. Reading through all these responses brings back memories of how overwhelming and frustrating the SSA process can be, but also how much community support and knowledge can make a difference. One thing I discovered that hasn't been mentioned yet is that some Area Agencies on Aging have "benefits counselors" who specialize in helping people navigate SSA, Medicare, and other federal programs. They're often more accessible than Legal Aid (which can have waiting lists) and they know the local SSA offices really well. The counselor I worked with even knew which SSA representatives were most knowledgeable about kinship cases. Diego, your situation with taking emergency custody due to difficult family circumstances sounds very similar to mine. The key documentation that helped me get approved despite not meeting the full one-year support requirement was showing that the custody change was sudden and necessary for the children's welfare. Court records, any documentation about the parents' circumstances that led to the custody change, and evidence that you immediately began providing full support will all be important. Also, don't forget to apply for school lunch programs right away if you haven't already - it's usually a quick approval and can help with immediate expenses while you're waiting for other benefits. Every little bit helps when you're suddenly supporting two additional children on a fixed income. This community has shared such valuable advice - from the practical calling strategies to the comprehensive documentation tips. Your grandchildren are fortunate to have someone willing to navigate this complex system for them. Keep fighting, and please keep us updated on your progress!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Chloe. This has been one of the most comprehensive and helpful discussions I've seen on this topic! As someone who recently went through the Social Security maze for my own benefits, I wanted to add a small but potentially important detail. When you do get through to SSA, ask them specifically about the "month of entitlement" rules. Sometimes there can be confusion about whether your benefits start the month you turn 66y 6m or the month after, depending on exactly which day of the month your birthday falls on. Getting this clarified upfront can help you plan your work schedule and income timing more precisely. Also, I noticed several people mentioned the challenges of reaching SSA by phone. Another option that worked for me was visiting my local SSA office in person early in the morning. Yes, you might wait, but I found the in-person representatives were often more thorough and patient than phone reps, plus you get that immediate written documentation. Everyone here has confirmed the key point perfectly - once you reach your survivor benefit FRA at 66y 6m, you can earn unlimited income with no benefit reduction. The strategic planning advice about building your own retirement credits while collecting survivor benefits is excellent long-term thinking. You're clearly approaching this with great care and preparation. Wishing you clarity and peace as you navigate this process.

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Thank you Mateo for bringing up the "month of entitlement" rules - that's such an important detail about timing that I hadn't considered! Knowing exactly when benefits would start based on my birthday could definitely help with planning my work schedule and income timing. I'll make sure to ask about that specifically. The suggestion about visiting the local SSA office in person is really appealing too, especially after hearing how difficult it can be to reach them by phone. Having that immediate written documentation and potentially more thorough assistance sounds worth the wait. I'm honestly overwhelmed (in the best way) by how much valuable information this thread has provided. From the basic answer to my original question about earnings limits at survivor benefit FRA, to advanced strategic planning about benefit switching, to practical tips about documentation and communication with SSA - this has been like getting a masterclass in Social Security navigation. This community has truly been a lifeline during such a difficult and confusing time. I feel like I've gone from being completely lost to having a comprehensive roadmap for this entire process. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Chloe. This thread has been absolutely incredible to read through - the depth of knowledge and support from this community is remarkable. As someone who helps people navigate Social Security benefits, I wanted to reinforce a few key points that have been consistently mentioned here: Yes, once you reach 66 years and 6 months (your survivor benefit FRA), you can work and earn unlimited income without any reduction to your survivor benefits. This is completely separate from your retirement benefit FRA. I also wanted to add one more resource that might help: many local Area Agencies on Aging have Social Security counselors who can provide free, personalized assistance with these decisions. They're often very knowledgeable about survivor benefit strategies and can help you understand all your options without the hassle of trying to reach SSA directly. The strategic advice about taking survivor benefits now while potentially building delayed retirement credits on your own record is spot-on. Having SSA run those benefit projections will be crucial for your long-term planning. All the practical tips shared here - early morning calls, detailed documentation, getting everything in writing, preparing organized questions - are gold standard advice for dealing with any government benefits. You're clearly approaching this with excellent preparation, and this community has given you an amazing toolkit for success.

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