Can I receive Social Security on my own record plus spousal benefits when husband is on SSDI before FRA?
I'm trying to figure out my Social Security strategy and getting confused about the rules. I'm 62 and planning to file for my retirement benefits soon (I know it's before my full retirement age which is 67). My husband (64) has been receiving SSDI for the past 3 years due to a serious back injury that left him unable to work. Here's what I'm trying to understand: Can I file for benefits on my own work record now AND still get the spousal top-up from his SSDI record even though he's not at his full retirement age yet? His SSDI payment is about $2,450 monthly while my estimated benefit at 62 would only be around $1,380. I realize I'll get a reduced amount for filing early, but our mortgage is almost paid off and I'd rather start collecting something now. I've looked at the SSA website but the explanations about SSDI spouses vs regular retirement spouses are making my head spin! Has anyone navigated this specific situation? Thanks in advance for any insights!
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Isabella Ferreira
Yes, you can absolutely file on your own record and potentially receive a spousal supplement, even though your husband is on SSDI rather than regular retirement. For Social Security purposes, SSDI is treated similarly to retirement benefits when calculating spousal benefits. Here's how it works: You'll receive your own reduced retirement benefit first (reduced because you're filing before your FRA). Then, if 50% of your husband's SSDI benefit (at your full retirement age) would be higher than your own benefit, you'd get a spousal supplement to bring you up to that amount - but this supplement would also be reduced because you're claiming early. Keep in mind that because you're filing at 62, your own benefit will be reduced to about 70% of your full benefit amount, and the spousal portion will be reduced to as little as 32.5% (instead of the full 50%).
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Malik Johnson
•Thank you so much for explaining! So if I understand correctly, I'll get my reduced benefit of about $1,380, and then if 50% of his SSDI ($2,450) would be $1,225 - since my reduced benefit is already higher than that, would I not get any spousal supplement? Or am I calculating something wrong?
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Ravi Sharma
I was in almost exactly your situation last year! My husband was on SSDI and I filed at 63. The most important thing to know is that YES, you can get both, but the calculations get tricky. The way it worked for me was that I got my own reduced benefit (about $1,520) and then a small spousal "top-up" because my husband's benefit was quite a bit higher than mine (around $2,800). If you're having trouble reaching SSA to get a clear answer about YOUR specific amounts (I tried calling for WEEKS and could never get through), I ended up using this service called Claimyr that connected me to an actual SSA agent in under 20 minutes. It was seriously life-changing after all those busy signals and disconnects! Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Good luck! The peace of mind from knowing exactly what you'll receive is totally worth it.
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Freya Thomsen
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Ravi Sharma
•No, they just connected me through to SSA directly - they don't need your personal info since you'll be talking to the actual Social Security reps. It just bypasses the hold time somehow. Made my life so much easier!
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Omar Zaki
my wife got the spdusal top up when i was on ssi not even ssdi so you should be fine
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Isabella Ferreira
•Just to clarify, SSI and SSDI are different programs. SSI is Supplemental Security Income (needs-based) while SSDI is Social Security Disability Insurance (based on work credits). The spousal benefit rules are different between these programs. With SSI, there are no spousal benefits, so your wife may have been receiving something else or her own benefits.
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AstroAce
The answer is yes, but with several important considerations: 1. When you file for your retirement benefit early, it's permanently reduced (by about 30% at age 62). 2. For spousal benefits, SSA will calculate the difference between your reduced benefit and up to 50% of your husband's SSDI benefit (also reduced since you're filing early for the spousal portion). 3. CRITICAL POINT: The "deemed filing" rule applies here. When you file for one benefit (your retirement), you're automatically deemed to be filing for any spousal benefits you're eligible for at the same time. 4. Your calculation above isn't quite right. The spousal benefit formula isn't simply 50% of his benefit compared to yours. It's more complicated. The actual calculation is: If 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (not his actual SSDI payment) exceeds your own Primary Insurance Amount (not your reduced benefit), then you'd get a supplement. BUT both amounts would be reduced for early filing. I strongly recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to get an exact calculation for your situation. The rules around SSDI/retirement/spousal benefits are complex, and individual situations vary greatly.
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Malik Johnson
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. What's the difference between his Primary Insurance Amount and his actual SSDI payment? I thought they were the same thing? I'll definitely try to schedule an appointment with SSA to get the exact numbers.
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AstroAce
•Great question. The Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is the benefit a person would receive if they began receiving benefits at exactly their full retirement age. For disability beneficiaries, their SSDI payment is generally equal to their PIA. So in your husband's case, his $2,450 SSDI benefit is likely his PIA (assuming he was approved for SSDI after age 62). This means your spousal benefit calculation would be based on 50% of that $2,450 figure ($1,225), but then reduced because you're claiming early. Based on the numbers you provided, your own reduced benefit ($1,380) is already higher than the spousal benefit you'd be entitled to, so you might not receive a spousal supplement. But definitely have SSA run the exact numbers for your situation.
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Chloe Martin
You seem to be making this way too complicated. Just file for your benefits and the SSA will automatically figure out if you get any extra from your husband's record. That's what they did for me. I didn't have to do anything special.
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Malik Johnson
•That's reassuring to hear. Did you find out you were eligible for any spousal benefits on top of your own?
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Chloe Martin
•Yes I got an extra $212 a month on top of my own benefit. But everyone's situation is different based on your earnings history and your spouse's. The SSA rep told me they always check automatically if you can get more money as a spouse. Just make sure to mention you're married when you apply.
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Diego Rojas
When I tried to do this last year the SS office kept giving me different answers every time I called! Super frustrating. One person said I could get both, another said I couldn't because my husband wasn't FRA yet (even though he was on SSDI). I finally went in person and got it sorted out. Just sharing my experience that you might need to be persistent!
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Omar Zaki
i was on ssdi for 5 yrs and my wife got some of her benfit plus some of mine but we had to go in person to the office because the online thing was confusing
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AstroAce
One more thing I forgot to mention - when your husband reaches his FRA, his SSDI will automatically convert to regular retirement benefits (same amount). This won't affect your benefits at all, but it's good to know so you're not surprised when you see the change on his paperwork or direct deposits.
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Malik Johnson
•That's really helpful to know - I had no idea that would happen automatically. So many rules to keep track of!
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Diego Rojas
Whatever you do, make sure you ask specifically about how early filing affects the spousal portion!! My sister-in-law messed this up and is getting way less than she expected because she didn't understand how the reductions were applied.
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