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I'm also in PA and filed electronically on March 1st - still waiting on my refund too. Reading through all these comments has been really eye-opening, especially learning about the $47 million fraud loss in 2023 that triggered these new verification procedures. That explains so much! I moved states (from NJ to PA) last year and changed my withholding elections at work, so I'm probably caught in that manual review queue that several people mentioned. What's been most helpful from this thread is understanding that the delays are systematic rather than random - it makes the wait less stressful knowing there's an actual reason behind it. I'm going to try the early morning call strategy that @b0685d7bf605 suggested since the callback services mentioned by others seem to be working better than the regular phone lines. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and timelines - it's reassuring to know I'm not alone in this waiting game and that legitimate returns are eventually getting processed, just with much longer timeframes than we're used to.

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Omar Zaki

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This entire thread has been a lifesaver! I'm also in PA and filed on February 18th - still waiting. Like you, I moved from out of state (Maryland) last year, which probably explains why I'm stuck in this verification limbo. It's honestly a relief to understand that there's a legitimate reason for these delays rather than just thinking PA's system is completely broken. The $47 million fraud loss context makes the enhanced security measures totally understandable, even if the lack of communication about it is frustrating. I'm definitely going to try calling at 7:30 AM tomorrow using the strategy that worked for others. Thanks for consolidating all this helpful information - knowing that people with similar situations (interstate moves, life changes) are experiencing the same delays makes me feel much better about the wait!

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I'm also in PA and filed electronically on February 8th - still waiting on my state refund. This thread has been incredibly informative! I had no idea about the $47 million fraud loss in 2023 that triggered all these new verification procedures. That completely explains why processing is so much slower this year. I'm definitely in the "life changes" category since I got divorced last year and had to update my filing status, plus I moved to a new apartment in the same city. Based on what others have shared, it sounds like either of those changes could have flagged my return for manual review. I've been checking the "Where's My Refund" tool daily but it just says "processing" with no helpful details. Going to try the 7:30 AM call strategy tomorrow morning that several people mentioned worked for them. It's actually reassuring to know that the delays are systematic and security-related rather than just bureaucratic incompetence. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and insights - this community discussion has been way more helpful than any official PA government resource!

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I'm so glad this thread exists! I'm also in PA and filed on February 22nd - still waiting. Reading everyone's experiences has been incredibly helpful, especially learning about the fraud loss that triggered these new security measures. I actually had TWO major life changes last year - got married AND moved from Ohio to PA - so I'm probably at the top of the manual review queue! It's frustrating that PA doesn't communicate any of this upfront on their website. You'd think they could at least add a notice explaining that certain life changes may cause processing delays. I've been stressing about whether I made an error on my return, but now I understand it's likely just caught up in their enhanced verification process. Definitely going to try calling at 7:30 AM like others suggested. Thanks everyone for sharing - this has been way more informative than anything I could find on the official PA revenue site!

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Mei Lin

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Great question about state taxes! I'm in Colorado, so we do have state income tax here. I hadn't even thought about how that might affect my W4 calculations - I've been so focused on just getting the federal part right. Does the state tax situation change how I should fill out the federal W4, or is that something I handle separately? I assume Colorado has its own withholding form I'll need to complete as well? This is exactly the kind of detail that makes me nervous I'm missing something important!

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GalaxyGlider

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@bd276eb65883 You're right to be thinking about both! Colorado does require a separate state W4 form (DR 0004), but the good news is it doesn't complicate your federal W4 calculations. Handle them as two separate forms. For federal, stick with the advice others have given - married filing jointly, use the multiple jobs worksheet or check box 2(c), and consider that extra $25-50 weekly withholding in step 4(c) to be safe. For Colorado state, you'll want to make sure you're withholding enough to cover that 4.4% flat rate on your combined income. The Colorado Department of Revenue has its own withholding calculator that can help you figure out the right amount for the state form. Since you're new to the US tax system, I'd recommend using one of the tools others mentioned (like the IRS withholding calculator or taxr.ai) to double-check your federal numbers, then handle Colorado separately. Better to be conservative and get a small refund than owe at tax time!

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Ryan Vasquez

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Welcome to the US tax system! As someone who's helped many newcomers navigate this, I completely understand your confusion about the W4 - it's one of those forms that seems simple but has lots of nuances. Given your situation (married, combined income ~$175k, spouse with variable commission income), here's what I'd recommend for your W4: **Step 1:** Select "Married filing jointly" **Step 2:** This is crucial for your situation. I'd actually recommend using the Multiple Jobs Worksheet (option 2b) rather than just checking box 2c. With your spouse's variable commission income and the significant difference in your earnings ($60k vs $115k), the worksheet will give you more accurate withholding calculations. **Step 3:** Skip if no dependents **Step 4c:** Based on your income levels, I'd suggest starting with $40-50 additional withholding per weekly paycheck. This should help ensure you don't owe at tax time. **Important tip:** Since your spouse already has good withholding (getting refunds), you might want to coordinate with them. Sometimes it's more effective to adjust withholding on the higher earner's paychecks rather than spreading it across both. Don't forget you'll also need Colorado's DR 0004 form for state withholding! The IRS withholding calculator at irs.gov/W4App is really helpful for your specific situation - just have both your recent pay stubs ready when you use it.

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Lara Woods

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm curious about your point regarding coordinating withholding with my spouse. Since they're already getting refunds and their income is higher, would it make more sense for them to increase their withholding instead of me adjusting mine? Also, when you mention the Multiple Jobs Worksheet being better for variable commission income - does that worksheet account for the fact that commission earnings can swing pretty dramatically month to month? My spouse's income can vary by $15-20k between their best and worst quarters, which makes it hard to predict our total annual income. I definitely want to use the IRS calculator as you suggested, but I'm wondering if I should use an average of my spouse's commission earnings or try to estimate conservatively (using lower commission projections) to avoid underwithholding?

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Taylor Chen

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a very similar situation - my ex and I alternate years claiming our son, and this year it's his turn. I was resigned to filing as single, but now I understand I can still file HOH since my son lives with me more than half the time. The key insight about HOH and dependency exemptions being separate requirements is a game-changer. I've been keeping detailed records of our custody schedule anyway for other reasons, so I should have the documentation I need. One question though - when you say "more than half the year," is that based on calendar days or nights? Our custody agreement has some specifics about holidays and summer schedules that make the exact count a bit tricky to calculate. Also, has anyone here actually been through an audit on this specific issue? I'm curious how thorough the IRS review process is and what kind of documentation they found most convincing.

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Lauren Wood

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Great question about the timing calculation! The IRS uses "nights" as the measure, not calendar days. So you need to count the actual nights your son slept at your home versus your ex's home. This is specifically outlined in IRS Publication 501. For the holiday and summer schedule complications, I'd recommend creating a simple calendar and marking each night where your son stayed. Include notes about any special circumstances (like if he was with you but slept elsewhere due to travel, etc.). The IRS is pretty straightforward about this - they just want to see that more than 182.5 nights (half of 365) were spent at your residence. Regarding audits, I haven't been through one personally on this issue, but from what I've seen discussed here and in other tax forums, the IRS mainly wants to verify the living arrangement. School records showing your address, medical records with your address as primary contact, and a detailed calendar seem to be the most convincing documentation. The fact that you're already keeping detailed custody records puts you in a great position if questions ever come up!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation last year. I was terrified about filing HOH without claiming my daughter as a dependent, but after reading through IRS Publication 501 multiple times and consulting with a tax professional, I went ahead with it. The key thing that gave me confidence was keeping meticulous records. I used a shared Google calendar with my ex to track every single night our daughter stayed at each house. I also kept copies of school enrollment forms showing my address, pediatrician records with my contact info as primary, and receipts for major household expenses like rent and utilities. When I filed, I included a brief note with my return explaining the custody arrangement and referencing the specific IRS code sections that allow HOH filing in this situation. I never heard anything from the IRS - my return was processed normally and I got my refund without any issues. The financial difference was huge - saved me about $2,800 compared to filing single. If you have your daughter more than half the nights and you're maintaining the household, you absolutely should file HOH. Just make sure your documentation is rock solid and you'll be fine.

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Owen Devar

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This is really encouraging to hear! I'm in almost the exact same situation and have been so nervous about making the wrong choice. Your point about including a note with your return explaining the custody arrangement is something I hadn't thought of - that seems like a smart way to be proactive and show the IRS you understand the rules. I've been keeping a shared calendar too, and it's actually been helpful for co-parenting in general, not just tax purposes. The $2,800 difference you mentioned really drives home how significant this decision is financially. Quick question - when you referenced the specific IRS code sections in your note, which ones did you cite? I want to make sure I'm referencing the right parts of Publication 501 if I decide to include a similar explanation with my return.

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As a newcomer to this community and someone who's completely new to understanding payroll tax issues, I've been reading through this entire thread with fascination and growing confidence. The sheer volume of people experiencing this exact same OASDI withholding error is both alarming and reassuring - alarming because it shows how widespread this compliance violation is, but reassuring because it means you're definitely not alone in facing this problem. The math everyone has laid out is absolutely crystal clear: at your $82k salary with biweekly pay, your OASDI should be approximately $196 per check (6.2% of gross wages), not the $483 they're withholding. That difference represents them incorrectly taking both the employee AND employer portions from your paycheck, which is a serious violation of federal payroll tax regulations. What strikes me most about all these stories is the consistent pattern of payroll departments using the same deflection tactic - claiming they "have no control" when it's literally their own system causing the error. As the payroll professional who commented here confirmed, this is complete nonsense and a clear attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their compliance failures. Based on everyone's successful experiences, I'd strongly encourage you to go back to payroll armed with specific documentation: calculate your exact overpayments, reference IRS Publication 15 (Circular E) which clearly states the 6.2% employee rate, and present a written demand for immediate correction and full refund. Don't accept their dismissive responses - you have federal law backing your position. This community discussion has been incredibly educational and empowering. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical, real-world guidance that helps fellow workers stand up for their rights with confidence!

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Savannah Vin

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Welcome to the community! As another newcomer who's been learning so much from this discussion, I really appreciate how you've summarized the key points so clearly. It's incredible how this thread has evolved into such a comprehensive resource for understanding and tackling OASDI withholding errors. What I find most valuable is how the community has transformed what could be an intimidating bureaucratic nightmare into a manageable problem with clear solutions. Before reading this, I would have been completely overwhelmed by payroll telling me to "consult a tax specialist," but now I understand that the 6.2% employee OASDI rate is straightforward federal law that any payroll department should know. The step-by-step documentation approach that's worked for so many people here - calculating overpayments, referencing IRS Publication 15, presenting written demands - really shows the power of being informed and persistent. It's encouraging to see how many successful resolutions have come from employees who refused to accept the "we have no control" excuse. This thread should honestly be required reading for anyone starting a new job! The real-world experiences and practical solutions shared here are invaluable for understanding our rights as employees and knowing we don't have to just accept payroll errors as inevitable. Thanks to everyone who's contributed - this community knowledge sharing is exactly what makes these forums so powerful for helping people navigate complex workplace issues!

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through this entire discussion and I'm honestly blown away by how educational and supportive this thread has been! Before finding this, I had no idea that OASDI withholding errors were so common or that payroll departments had such consistent patterns of deflecting responsibility. The math breakdown everyone has provided makes your situation crystal clear - at $82k annually with biweekly pay, your OASDI should only be around $196 per check (6.2% of gross wages), not the $483 they're taking. That's more than double what it should be, which clearly indicates they're incorrectly withholding both the employee AND employer portions of Social Security tax. What really resonates with me is how many people initially questioned themselves when they noticed these sudden changes. The "consult a tax specialist" response from payroll seems designed to make employees feel like they're being unreasonable, when in reality you're pointing out a legitimate federal compliance violation. Based on all the successful experiences shared here, I'd recommend going back to payroll with a firm, documented approach: - Calculate exactly what your OASDI should be and how much you've been overcharged - Reference IRS Publication 15 (Circular E) which clearly states the 6.2% employee rate - Present a written demand for immediate correction and refund of excess withholding - Don't accept their "we have no control" excuse - it's their system and their legal obligation This community's collective wisdom has been invaluable for understanding employee rights around payroll errors. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - it's exactly this kind of practical guidance that helps people navigate bureaucratic obstacles with confidence rather than intimidation!

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I've been dealing with this exact scenario for the past three years and wanted to share what I've learned. My wife is the primary taxpayer on our joint return, but I handle all our finances and make the estimated payments from my IRS account. Initially, I was worried about the same thing you are, but here's what actually happens: The IRS does track payments by individual SSN initially, but when you file your joint return, their system automatically reconciles all payments made by either spouse to your joint tax liability. The key things I've learned: 1. Keep detailed records of ALL payments made by both spouses - dates, amounts, confirmation numbers 2. When using tax software, there's usually a section asking about estimated payments made by either spouse - make sure you include everything 3. If you're doing your own taxes, Form 1040 has a line for estimated tax payments where you report the total regardless of which spouse paid I've never had an issue with penalties or misapplied payments, even though technically I'm the "wrong" spouse making the payments. The IRS computers are pretty good at figuring this out during processing. Just be thorough with your record-keeping and accurate when you file.

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Liam Duke

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful to hear from someone who's been doing this for years. I'm curious - have you ever had to deal with any notices or correspondence from the IRS about the payment tracking, or has it really been completely seamless on their end? I'm still a bit nervous about our first time doing this, so it's reassuring to hear it works out in practice.

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Luca Greco

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I went through this exact situation last year and can confirm what others have said - it works out fine, but there are a few things that made the process smoother for me. First, I called the IRS early in the year to confirm my payments were properly tracked (used one of those callback services mentioned here since I couldn't get through normally). The agent explained that while payments are initially credited to the individual taxpayer who made them, they have automated systems that link spouse payments to joint returns during processing. However, what really helped was keeping a simple spreadsheet with payment dates, amounts, and which spouse made each payment. When I filed using TurboTax, there was a specific section asking "Did you or your spouse make estimated tax payments?" - I entered all payments there with notes about which spouse paid what. The return processed without any issues, and I could see on my tax transcript that all payments were correctly applied to our joint account. The key is just being thorough when you file and making sure you don't miss any payments in your tax software. One tip: if you have access to both spouses' IRS online accounts, check both transcripts before filing to make sure you're capturing all payments. Sometimes there can be timing differences in when payments show up.

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Niko Ramsey

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm a newcomer to this whole estimated tax payment thing (just started freelancing this year), and this thread has been incredibly helpful. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I've been keeping receipts but not organizing them systematically. One quick question: when you say "check both transcripts," are you referring to the Account Transcript or the Record of Account Transcript? I've been trying to navigate the IRS website and there are so many different transcript types available. Also, do estimated payments typically show up immediately on the transcript, or is there a delay? I made my Q3 payment last week and want to make sure I'm checking the right place to confirm it went through properly. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it's really reassuring to hear from people who've successfully navigated this!

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