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Most likely it's in how they're handling your state taxes. I've used both programs and noticed TurboTax tends to be more aggressive with certain deductions while FreeTaxUSA is more conservative. I'd suggest this approach: 1. Look at federal AGI on both - are they the same? 2. Check if fed tax owed is identical 3. If those match, it's in the state calculation 4. If those don't match, compare Schedule A if you itemize For what it's worth, I've been using FreeTaxUSA for years and they've always been accurate for me.
Do you think it's worth paying the extra for TurboTax if it finds extra deductions? I'm on the fence about which to use this year.
Not necessarily. If TurboTax is showing a bigger refund, it's not always because it's finding legitimate extra deductions - it could be calculating something incorrectly. I've found FreeTaxUSA to be more accurate overall, especially for state taxes. Remember that paying more for tax software doesn't guarantee a bigger refund. It's about which software correctly applies the tax laws to your specific situation. If your return is fairly straightforward, FreeTaxUSA will likely give you the right result at a much lower price point.
Has anyone checked line 30 on Form 1040 (Recovery Rebate Credit) on both returns? That was the source of discrepancy for me last year - one software automatically calculated it correctly while the other one needed manual input.
One thing nobody mentioned - check if your parents are still claiming you as a dependent! If they are, it affects what deductions you can take. My first year working I screwed this up because my parents claimed me (I lived with them for 5 months that year) and I also claimed myself. Created a huge headache!
Thanks for bringing this up! I did check with my parents and they're not claiming me anymore since I've been fully supporting myself since graduation. But that's definitely something I wouldn't have thought about before reading your comment. How do you know whether someone can claim you as a dependent? Is there like an age cutoff or income limit?
There's actually a few tests the IRS uses. For a "qualifying child" dependent, you need to be under 19 (or under 24 if you're a student) and live with your parents for more than half the year. There's also a support test - if you provided more than half of your own financial support during the year, then your parents can't claim you, regardless of age or living situation. Since you mentioned you've been fully supporting yourself, you're definitely not a dependent anymore. It's definitely something that causes confusion that first year of independence! Glad you already sorted it out with your parents.
Everyone's focusing on standard vs itemized, but don't sleep on tax credits! Unlike deductions that just reduce your taxable income, credits directly reduce your tax bill dollar for dollar. The education credits are huge for new grads - American Opportunity Credit (up to $2,500) if you were in school part of the year, or Lifetime Learning Credit (up to $2,000) for your certification courses. These are WAY more valuable than deductions.
This is the best advice here. When I was a new grad, I missed out on the American Opportunity Credit my first year because I didn't realize I could claim it for my final semester. That was literally $1,500 down the drain! Also check if your state has additional credits. In California, I got a renter's credit that most of my friends didn't know about.
Thanks for this! I was in school for the spring semester before graduating in May, so I'll definitely look into the American Opportunity Credit. I had no idea there was a difference between credits and deductions until reading these comments. Do software programs like TurboTax automatically check for these credits, or do I need to specifically know to look for them? I'm worried about missing something important now.
Just wanted to add my experience - I had the same situation with Schwab last year (code 1 instead of code 2 on my 1099-R for Backdoor Roth). I called them and they refused to change it, saying it was coded correctly according to their systems. I filed with the form as-is, making sure my 8606 was perfect, and never heard anything from the IRS. No audit, no penalties, nothing. I think the financial institutions and the IRS aren't perfectly aligned on how these codes should be used, but as long as your 8606 correctly shows what happened, you're protected.
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really reassuring. Did you keep any documentation from Schwab about them refusing to change it, just in case?
I didn't keep any specific documentation from the call, but I did make notes for myself with the date/time and representative's name. I also downloaded and saved a copy of my 1099-R and 8606 in case I needed to reference them later. In retrospect, I probably should have asked for something in writing, but it all worked out fine. If you're really concerned, you could email Vanguard so you have a written response from them explaining why they used code 1.
One more thing to consider - the IRS has gotten a lot better at recognizing Backdoor Roth conversions in recent years since they've become so popular. Their systems are more sophisticated than they used to be. I think 5 years ago this might have been more likely to trigger an issue, but now their computers are probably programmed to cross-check these scenarios specifically. Still good to be cautious and keep your documentation though!
Something important that hasn't been mentioned: the timing! If you repay within the same tax year as the overpayment, your employer can just adjust your W-2. But since you're repaying in a different tax year, you'll need to handle it on your tax return using what's called "claim of right" provisions. Basically, you have two options: 1. Take an itemized deduction on Schedule A for the repayment 2. Claim a tax credit for the amount of taxes you paid on that income Option 2 is usually better if the amount is significant. See IRS Publication 525 under "Repayments" for the details. Keep all documentation from your employer about both the overpayment and your repayment.
Do you know if this applies to independent contractors too? I had a client overpay me on a 1099 job, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle repaying them.
Yes, these claim of right provisions apply to independent contractors as well. The process is similar, but there are some differences since you received a 1099 instead of a W-2. For 1099 income, when you repay in a later year, you'll still use the same two options (deduction vs. credit), but the documentation is slightly different. Make sure you get a corrected 1099 from the client if possible, or at minimum a receipt documenting that you repaid the overpayment. This helps establish that you're not trying to double-dip by both keeping the money and claiming a tax benefit.
Wait I'm confused... everyone's saying to repay the full amount including taxes, but isn't that basically paying taxes twice? Once when they originally withheld it and again when paying back money you never received?
You're not paying taxes twice because you get to claim the tax portion back on your tax return. You repay the gross amount to the employer, then the IRS essentially "refunds" the tax portion to you when you file your return and claim it properly. It feels like paying twice in the moment, but it all balances out when you complete your taxes. The system is set up this way because your employer already reported the full amount to the IRS, and they need their books to match what they reported.
Carmen Ruiz
Something nobody's mentioned yet - have you checked if your country has a tax treaty with the US? That can sometimes affect your filing requirements regardless of resident/nonresident status. I'm from India, and certain income is taxed differently because of the treaty.
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NebulaNomad
ā¢I haven't checked that! My home country is Malaysia - would that make a difference even if I'm determined to be a nonresident alien? And how do I find out what the specific treaty provisions are?
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Carmen Ruiz
ā¢Yes, tax treaties can definitely make a difference! Malaysia does have a tax treaty with the US, and it can affect how certain types of income are taxed even as a nonresident. The IRS has Publication 901 (US Tax Treaties) that summarizes the provisions, but they're not always easy to understand. The treaty might give you special treatment for scholarships, fellowships, or certain types of income. You can find the basics on the IRS website, but the actual treaty text is more detailed. When you file your taxes, you'd need to fill out Form 8833 to claim any treaty benefits.
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Andre Lefebvre
Has anyone used Sprintax for filing as a nonresident F-1 student? My university recommends it over TurboTax for international students.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
ā¢I used Sprintax last year as an F-1 student and it was pretty good. It's specifically designed for nonresident aliens so it asks all the right questions about visa type, entry dates, and tax treaties. It's a bit pricey compared to some other options but the peace of mind was worth it for me.
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