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Omar Hassan

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Something important to consider - in my experience as a beneficiary who discovered trustee theft, you should request a full accounting of the trust ASAP. Don't just rely on tax returns because they won't show everything. By law (in most states), trustees must provide a complete accounting to beneficiaries upon request, showing all receipts, disbursements, and investments. If your uncle refuses to provide this, that's a huge red flag and grounds for court intervention. Document everything in writing - make your request for accounting via certified mail so there's proof he received it. Also, check the trust document itself - there might be provisions about trustee compensation that your uncle is violating. In my case, my cousin was paying himself $75k/year as "trustee fees" when the trust document specified a maximum of $15k annually.

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Thanks for this advice! The trust document does specify a fee schedule for the trustee, but I haven't been able to figure out exactly what my uncle has been paying himself. Is there a specific form or format that I should request the accounting in? I want to make sure I ask for everything I'm entitled to see.

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Omar Hassan

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There's no specific required format for the accounting in most states, but you should request a "formal accounting" that includes beginning and ending balances for each accounting period, all income received, all disbursements made (with explanations for each), a list of all assets currently held by the trust, and any changes in investments. Make your request very specific and include time periods. For example: "I request a complete accounting of the John & Jane Smith Family Trust for the period of January 1, 2020 through December 31, 2024, including all receipts, disbursements, trustee fees paid, investment transactions, and current trust assets." Send this via certified mail so you have proof of delivery.

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Chloe Taylor

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Has anyone checked if the accountant is actually complicit in this mess? When my uncle was stealing from my grandfather's trust, we discovered the accountant had been helping him hide the transactions by categorizing personal expenses as "trust administration costs" and "investment expenses." They had a whole system worked out! Accountants have ethical obligations, but some will look the other way if a trustee is paying their bills regularly. Our accountant suddenly became much more cooperative when our lawyer sent a letter threatening to report him to the state accounting board for ethics violations. Just something to consider - the accountant might not be an innocent bystander here.

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ShadowHunter

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This is a really good point. My family went through something similar, and we ended up filing complaints against both the trustee AND the accountant with our state's professional licensing boards. If the accountant has been preparing returns they knew were deceptive, they could lose their license or face other penalties.

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Olivia Garcia

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One thing to consider is that getting a big refund isn't actually the best financial move. When you overpay throughout the year, you're basically giving the government an interest-free loan instead of having that money in your pocket each month. I adjusted my W-4 to get very close to zero (either owing a tiny bit or getting a tiny refund) and then set up an automatic transfer of $100 per paycheck to a high-yield savings account. By tax time, I have a nice chunk of money saved PLUS interest earned. Maybe think about trying to get your withholding more accurate rather than deliberately overpaying just to get a refund?

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RaΓΊl Mora

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I get what you're saying about the interest-free loan thing, but honestly, for me it's psychological. If I get that money in small amounts in my regular paychecks, I'll just spend it. Having a forced "savings" that comes back as a lump sum helps me actually save for bigger purchases or goals. Plus, I sleep better knowing I won't owe a surprise tax bill!

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Olivia Garcia

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That's a totally fair point! Personal finance is personal for a reason - if the "forced savings" approach works better for your habits and gives you peace of mind, then it's worth the small amount of interest you might miss out on. If you do decide to go that route, you might want to put a specific dollar amount in Box 4(c) of your W-4 rather than adjusting the other settings. That way you're deliberately setting aside a fixed amount rather than trying to guess at the other settings.

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Noah Lee

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Make sure you're also accounting for any tax credits you might qualify for! Things like the Child Tax Credit, American Opportunity Credit (if you're in school), or Earned Income Credit can make a huge difference in your refund amount. The W-4 calculator often doesn't fully account for these, so you might want to adjust your withholding to compensate. When I had a kid, I actually reduced my withholding a bit because I knew the child tax credit would offset it.

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Ava Hernandez

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Would the earned income credit apply to someone who was on unemployment for part of the year? I'm trying to figure out if my sister might qualify.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Has anyone looked into qualified opportunity zones? I read somewhere that investing capital gains into these zones can defer or reduce taxes. Is this something that actually works for regular people or just for the ultra-wealthy?

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NeonNova

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Qualified Opportunity Zones (QOZs) can work for regular investors, but they have very specific requirements and aren't typically a last-minute strategy. You need to have capital gains to invest, and you must invest through a Qualified Opportunity Fund within 180 days of realizing those gains.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Thanks for explaining! Makes sense why I haven't heard much about this for regular folks. Sounds like it's more complex than I was hoping for my situation right now, especially with the year almost over.

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I know this might be too late for 2023, but for next year, set up regular automatic contributions to tax-advantaged accounts from day 1. We learned this lesson the hard way. Now we max out 401ks, HSAs and IRAs throughout the year instead of panicking in December! Steady contributions also mean you're buying at different market prices throughout the year.

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That's definitely the plan for 2024! We're basically starting from scratch with all this tax planning stuff. Better late than never I guess...

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Hazel Garcia

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I made the same mistake last year - my TurboTax didn't import all my crypto transactions. One thing I learned is that you MUST double-check what TurboTax is importing. For me, it pulled in some transactions but completely missed others. Pro tip: before submitting your 2022 or future returns, go to the capital gains section in TurboTax and manually review what got imported. I found that connecting Robinhood directly still missed some transactions, especially if you did any transfers between wallets or exchanges. For responding to your CP2000, definitely include Form 8949 with all your transactions listed properly. The IRS actually processed my correction pretty quickly once I sent them the complete information.

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PaulineW

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Thanks for the advice! I never thought to manually check what TurboTax was importing - I just assumed the connection to Robinhood would pull everything correctly. Do you think I should just use a tax professional for crypto stuff going forward? Seems like the software isn't reliable enough.

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Hazel Garcia

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For simple crypto investing, TurboTax or other tax software can still work fine, but you definitely need to manually review what's imported. I actually switched to using a crypto-specific tax preparation tool first (like CoinTracker or Koinly) that generates the proper 8949 forms, then I import those results into TurboTax. If you're doing more complex crypto activities like DeFi, staking, or mining, then yes, a tax professional with crypto experience is probably worth the money. The tax rules are still evolving in this area, and it's easy to make mistakes with the automated tools.

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Laila Fury

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Don't forget that if you do have a net capital loss, you can deduct up to $3,000 against your ordinary income in a tax year. So that $675 loss can actually lower your taxable income! Also, make sure to check if any of your crypto transactions would be considered wash sales. The IRS hasn't explicitly stated crypto is subject to wash sale rules yet, but it's safer to track them just in case.

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Actually, crypto isn't subject to wash sale rules currently! That's one advantage of crypto - you can sell at a loss and rebuy immediately to harvest the tax loss. This is a big difference from stocks where you have to wait 30 days. But there's talk about changing this soon, so enjoy it while it lasts...

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Henry Delgado

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Has anyone actually gotten through to the IRS using the regular phone number recently? I tried calling at exactly 7:00am when they opened and still got the "due to high call volume" message and it hung up on me!

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Olivia Kay

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I got through last Thursday but only after calling literally 12 times. Each time it hung up on me but on the 13th try I got in the queue. Then waited 1 hour 47 minutes to speak to someone. The trick seems to be to keep calling back repeatedly and eventually you'll get lucky and get in the queue instead of getting the "we're too busy" message.

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Henry Delgado

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Thanks for the tip! I'll try the persistence approach tomorrow morning. 12 attempts sounds painful but I guess it's worth it if it eventually works. Did you select any specific options in the phone menu that seemed to help get you through?

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Joshua Hellan

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For what it's worth, this happened to me last year, and it turned out my accountant had accidentally e-filed my return TWICE. The first one got accepted, then when she realized she made a mistake and tried to refile, we got this same error code. Might be worth checking if anyone tried filing anything for you (like if you started a return with one tax software, then switched to another).

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That's interesting - I did start my taxes in TurboTax but then switched to FreeTaxUSA because it was cheaper. I didn't complete or submit anything in TurboTax though, just started inputting some basic info. Could TurboTax have somehow submitted something without me finalizing it??

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Joshua Hellan

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It's unlikely TurboTax would submit without you finalizing, but not impossible if there was a glitch. Check your TurboTax account to see if there's any record of a submission. Also, if you used the same email for both tax services, check your email carefully for any confirmation messages that might indicate something was filed. Another possibility: if you had a tax preparer do your taxes last year, sometimes they automatically file extensions for all their clients as a courtesy. Maybe someone filed an extension for you without informing you? Worth checking if that could have happened.

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