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Cameron Black

How to pay tax when submitting for a filing extension? I'm confused about the process

So I'm in a bit of a pickle here. Tax day is coming up fast and I KNOW I can't get all my paperwork together by April 15th. I've been reading about filing for an extension, which sounds great - 6 more months to get my act together! But then I keep seeing that you still need to PAY what you owe by the original deadline. This makes no sense to me. If I'm filing for an extension because I need more time to figure out my taxes... how am I supposed to know what I owe? Isn't that the whole point of needing more time - because I don't have everything calculated yet? I'm self-employed and had some investment income this year, so my tax situation is more complicated than usual. If I guess wrong and pay too little, will I get hit with penalties? If I overpay, will I just get a refund later? Does anyone know how this actually works in practice? Do I just make my best estimate? Are there any guidelines for how close my estimate needs to be to avoid penalties?

The extension confusion trips up a lot of people! An extension gives you more time to FILE your return (the paperwork), but not more time to PAY what you owe. Here's how to handle it: You need to make a good faith estimate of what you'll owe based on the information you have available right now. Calculate your likely income, deductions, and taxes as best you can with what you know. It doesn't have to be perfect, but should be reasonable - the IRS expects you to make an honest effort. If you pay at least 90% of what you ultimately owe or 100% of what you paid last year (110% for higher incomes), you'll generally avoid the failure-to-pay penalty. You can make this payment when you file Form 4868 (the extension request). If you end up overpaying, you'll get the excess back as a refund when you actually file. If you underpay, you might owe some interest on the unpaid amount, but at least you'll avoid the larger failure-to-file penalties.

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Cameron Black

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Thanks for explaining! So I should basically try to calculate my taxes now with what I have, and make sure I pay enough to cover at least 90% of what I'll ultimately owe? What happens if my estimate is WAY off? I had a couple of big investment transactions that I'm still sorting through documentation for. Also, how do I actually make the payment when requesting the extension? Is that something I can do online?

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For your first question, if your estimate is significantly off, you might owe interest on the unpaid amount. However, if you can show you made a reasonable effort based on available information, you can often avoid the more severe penalties. For complicated situations like investment transactions, the IRS generally recognizes these can be difficult to estimate perfectly. You can make your extension payment electronically through the IRS Direct Pay system, the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS), or by credit/debit card. The easiest method is probably to use the IRS Free File to submit Form 4868 electronically and make your payment at the same time. You'll get confirmation of both your extension request and payment.

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Isaac Wright

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A quick tip from someone who files extensions EVERY year - if you're really stuck, just pay MORE than you think you'll owe. The IRS is happy to return your overpayment when you finally file. I always add about 20% to my estimate as a buffer. Yes, you're giving the government an interest-free loan, but the peace of mind knowing you won't face penalties is worth it to me. I'd rather get money back than worry about underpaying.

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Lucy Taylor

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But what if you really need that money in the meantime? Not everyone can afford to overpay by 20%. Wouldn't it be better to try to get it right?

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Isaac Wright

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That's a totally valid point. It really depends on your financial situation. If cash flow is tight, then absolutely try to be more precise with your estimate. Use your previous year's return as a guide and adjust for any major changes in income or deductions. For those who can swing it though, overpaying provides a stress-free extension. Another approach is to aim for that 90% threshold mentioned earlier - pay enough to cover 90% of your expected tax, which should protect you from the more significant penalties. Either way, the key is making a reasonable effort to estimate correctly based on the information you have at the time.

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Connor Murphy

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Don't forget that each STATE has different rules for extensions too! The federal extension doesn't automatically apply to state taxes. Check your state's requirements separately. I learned this the hard way last year when I got hit with state penalties even though I had a federal extension. Some states require their own extension forms, and some don't give extensions for payment at all, just for filing.

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KhalilStar

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This is so important! I made this mistake with California taxes and ended up with penalties. Does anyone know a good resource that breaks down the requirements by state?

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