Do I need to file an extension if I'm expecting a tax return this year?
So I'm just realizing that April 15th is right around the corner and I'm nowhere near ready to file my taxes. My life has been absolute chaos this year - moved apartments, changed jobs twice, and had a medical emergency that left me with a stack of bills I'm still sorting through. I normally get around $2,800-3,200 back in my refund based on previous years, and I'm pretty sure this year will be similar or maybe even more since I had higher medical expenses. My question is simple - if I know I'm owed money from the IRS, do I still need to file an extension? Or can I just file late without penalties since they owe ME money? I've heard conflicting things from friends. Some say there's no penalty if you're getting a refund, others say you absolutely need to file the extension paperwork regardless. I don't want to mess anything up, but I also don't think I can get everything organized by Monday. Anyone been in this situation before? What's the right approach here?
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Douglas Foster
You're in luck! If you're expecting a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing your tax return after the deadline without an extension. The penalties for late filing only apply when you owe taxes. That said, there are still good reasons to file an extension (Form 4868) anyway, even if you're getting money back. First, it gives you the peace of mind knowing you're following proper procedure. Second, what if your calculations are wrong and you actually do end up owing? The extension would protect you from late filing penalties. Also worth noting: the statute of limitations for claiming a refund is 3 years from the original due date. So while there's no penalty for filing late when you're owed money, you don't want to wait too long or you could forfeit your refund entirely.
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Nina Chan
•Wait, so if I don't file an extension and it turns out I actually DO owe money (even though I think I'll get a refund), will I get hit with penalties starting from April 15th? How much are those penalties typically?
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Douglas Foster
•Yes, that's exactly right. If you don't file an extension and it turns out you do owe, you'd face both a failure-to-file penalty (usually 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%) and a failure-to-pay penalty (typically 0.5% per month on unpaid taxes). The combined penalties can add up quickly. For example, if you file 3 months late and owe $1,000, you could face penalties of around $150-175 plus interest. Filing the extension takes just a few minutes online and protects you from the more severe failure-to-file penalty, even if you end up owing.
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Ruby Knight
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Diego Castillo
•Does it actually help with calculating whether you need to file an extension? Like can it tell me if I'm likely getting a refund based on my documents so far?
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Logan Stewart
•Sounds useful but I'm always skeptical about these tax tools. How accurate is it compared to going to an actual tax professional? My cousin used some online tool last year and ended up having to file an amended return because it missed some credits.
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Ruby Knight
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Logan Stewart
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Mikayla Brown
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Sean Matthews
•How does this actually work though? Do they have some special access to the IRS or something? Seems too good to be true that they can get through when nobody else can.
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Ali Anderson
•Bull. There's no way this actually works. The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to be impossible. I've tried calling over 30 times this season. Either this is a scam or they're doing something shady to get priority in the phone queue.
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Mikayla Brown
•They don't have special access to the IRS - they use automated technology to handle the waiting and phone tree navigation. Basically it's a system that waits on hold instead of you having to do it yourself, then alerts you when a human actually answers. There's nothing shady happening - they're just using technology to solve the hold time problem. The IRS still answers calls in the same order, but instead of you waiting for hours with your phone stuck on speaker, their system does it and calls you at the right moment. I was skeptical too, but it saved me hours of frustration and I actually got my question answered instead of giving up after multiple disconnects.
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Ali Anderson
I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it since I had a complicated extension question that online resources couldn't answer clearly. I've literally never gotten through to the IRS before despite dozens of attempts over multiple tax seasons. Used Claimyr yesterday afternoon, and I had an actual IRS representative on the phone with me in 67 minutes. Didn't have to sit there listening to that horrible hold music or worrying about being disconnected. The agent confirmed that in my situation (self-employed with estimated payments that I think cover what I owe), filing an extension was still the safest approach even though I'm expecting a small refund. Now I'm actually confident about what I need to do instead of guessing. Wish I'd known about this service years ago!
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Zadie Patel
This might be a stupid question but how do you even file an extension? Is it just another form you mail in or can you do it online? And do you need to pay anything with the extension?
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A Man D Mortal
•Not a stupid question! You file Form 4868 which you can do electronically through most tax software or the IRS Free File program. It takes like 5 minutes tops. The important thing to know: an extension gives you more time to FILE (until October 15), but NOT more time to PAY if you owe. So if you think you might owe, you should estimate and pay that amount when you file the extension to avoid penalties and interest.
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Zadie Patel
•Thanks for explaining! That makes sense about it being an extension to file not pay - didn't realize that distinction. I'm pretty sure I'll get a refund based on my withholding but I'll probably still file the extension just to be safe. Will check out the Free File options tonight.
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Declan Ramirez
I've filed late every year for the past 5 years because I always get a refund. Never filed an extension once and never had any issues. The IRS doesn't care when you file if they owe YOU money lol. That said, I finally got my act together and will be filing on time this year because I realized I've basically been giving the government an interest-free loan by waiting to get my refund. Could've had that money working for me months earlier!
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Emma Morales
•But what happens if you *think* you're getting a refund but actually end up owing? Doesn't the IRS hit you with huge penalties if you file late without an extension and owe them money?
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Declan Ramirez
•You're absolutely right to ask that! If you end up owing instead of getting a refund, and you didn't file an extension, you'd get hit with both failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties from the original due date. The failure-to-file penalty is much steeper (5% per month up to 25%) compared to failure-to-pay (0.5% per month). That's why I always made VERY sure I was getting a refund before skipping the extension. I had very simple taxes and always had way more withheld than necessary. For most people with more complex situations, filing the extension is definitely the safer move if you can't file on time.
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