Do I need to file for an extension if I don't owe any tax money?
I'm pretty certain I won't owe any taxes this year based on my calculations. Actually, I'm expecting a refund. With everything going on in my life right now (just moved across the country and started a new job), I'm wondering if I really need to file an extension if I can't get my taxes done by the April deadline? If the IRS owes ME money instead of the other way around, can I just wait until things settle down in my life - maybe like 2-3 months after the deadline - and then file to get my refund? I don't want to deal with penalties or anything, but I also don't want to rush through my taxes and make mistakes just to meet the deadline if it's not necessary. Thanks for any advice!
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Yara Haddad
You technically should file an extension even if you're expecting a refund. While it's true the IRS doesn't penalize for filing late when they owe YOU money (instead of you owing them), there are still good reasons to file the extension. Filing Form 4868 gives you until October 15, 2025 to submit your return without raising any red flags in the system. It's free and takes just a few minutes online. Even though there's no late-filing penalty when you're due a refund, not filing an extension could potentially trigger unnecessary system flags or notices. Also worth noting - you generally have three years from the original filing deadline to claim your refund. After that, the money becomes property of the U.S. Treasury. So while you don't need to rush for penalty reasons, don't wait too long either!
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Keisha Robinson
•Wait, so there's NEVER a penalty if you're getting money back? Can you really just file whenever then? And does the extension request have to include any estimated payment or anything?
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Yara Haddad
•That's correct - if the IRS owes you a refund, there's no penalty for filing after the deadline without an extension. However, it's still best practice to file the extension to keep your account in good standing with the IRS systems. The extension form (4868) doesn't require any payment if you don't owe taxes. You just need to provide basic information and submit the form by the filing deadline. No payment needed if you're confident you'll be receiving a refund. But remember, if your calculations are wrong and you do end up owing, you'll face penalties for late payment from the original April deadline.
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Paolo Conti
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Amina Sow
•Does it actually do the extension filing for you? Or just tell you what to do? Not sure I understand what this thing actually does.
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GalaxyGazer
•Sounds interesting but does it work for more complicated situations? I have some side gig income and rental property stuff going on. Would it handle that or is it just for simple W-2 only situations?
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Paolo Conti
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GalaxyGazer
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Oliver Wagner
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•How does this actually work though? Isn't this just the same as waiting on hold yourself? I don't get how they can magically get through when millions of people can't.
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Javier Mendoza
•This sounds like BS. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They probably just dial for you and charge you for the privilege. What a scam.
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Oliver Wagner
•It's not magic - they use technology to handle the waiting for you. Instead of you personally sitting on hold for hours, their system waits in the queue and then calls you when an agent is available. You're still in the same queue as everyone else, but you don't have to personally wait on the phone the whole time. This isn't a line-skipping service at all. It's basically a virtual assistant that waits on hold so you don't have to. There's no special access or preferential treatment - just technology that handles the frustrating waiting part while you go about your day until an agent is ready.
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Javier Mendoza
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Emma Thompson
Everyone is making this way more complicated than it needs to be. If you're getting a refund, there's NO PENALTY for filing late. Period. I've filed in June or July for the past 3 years because I always get money back. Never filed an extension, never had any issues. The 3-year rule is real though - you need to file within 3 years of the original due date or you lose your refund. But other than that, all this extension talk is unnecessary stress if you're 100% sure you're getting money back.
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Malik Davis
•But doesn't filing late without an extension trigger some kind of audit flag or something? I've always heard filing an extension keeps you "in good standing" with the IRS even if you don't owe.
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Emma Thompson
•There's no evidence that filing late when you're due a refund increases audit risk. The IRS primarily flags returns based on the content of your return, not when you file it. Things like unusually large deductions, inconsistent reporting, or mathematical errors are what typically trigger audits. When you don't owe taxes, the IRS is actually happy to hang onto your money longer! They're not in a rush to give it back. Filing an extension is mostly about peace of mind, but it's completely optional if you're due a refund. Just don't miss that 3-year window to claim your money.
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Isabella Santos
One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're getting state tax refund too, state rules might be different from federal! Some states DO charge penalties for late filing even if you're owed a refund. Check your state's tax authority website to be sure. I learned this the hard way in California a few years ago... ðŸ˜
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StarStrider
•That's a really good point! Which states have you heard do this? I'm in Texas so no state income tax for me but might be helpful for others to know.
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Isabella Santos
•California definitely enforces late filing penalties regardless of whether you're due a refund. New York has some penalties too but they're structured differently. I believe Oregon and Illinois also have some form of late filing penalties even when you're owed money. Each state has its own rules, so it's really important to check your specific state's tax authority website. The penalties aren't usually enormous, but they can reduce your refund amount. And filing a federal extension doesn't automatically extend your state filing in all states - many require a separate state extension form.
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Ravi Gupta
Something else to consider - if you wait too long to file, your refund might get delayed even further because the IRS prioritizes processing returns filed by the deadline. The later in the year you file, the longer the processing times tend to get as they're dealing with amended returns, audits, etc. Just something to think about if you're counting on that refund money!
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Luca Esposito
Great question! I went through something similar during my own cross-country move. While there's no penalty for filing late when you're expecting a refund, I'd still recommend filing Form 4868 for the extension - it literally takes 5 minutes online and gives you peace of mind until October 15th. Here's what I learned: even though the IRS won't penalize you for late filing when they owe you money, filing the extension keeps everything official and prevents any potential system notices. Plus, if your calculations are wrong and you actually DO owe something, you'll face penalties and interest from the original April deadline if you don't file the extension. Since you just moved states, double-check if you need to file in multiple states too - those rules can be different from federal. And honestly, with a new job and move, your tax situation might be more complex than you think (moving expenses, state income differences, etc.). Better safe than sorry! The three-year rule others mentioned is real though - you have until April 2028 to claim any 2024 refund, but don't wait that long. File the extension now for peace of mind, then tackle your return when things settle down.
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