What are the penalties for not filing by October 17th extension deadline if I overpaid?
So I filed for an extension for my 2024 taxes back in April, and at that time I sent in what I thought was a pretty generous payment (definitely more than what I'll actually owe when everything is calculated). Based on my rough estimates, I should actually be getting money back when I finally file. The problem is that life has been crazy lately - work deadlines, family stuff, you name it - and I'm realizing there's no way I can get my paperwork together by the October 17th extension deadline. I'm thinking it'll probably be another 1-2 weeks after that before I can actually file. My question is: Will I still get hit with that 5% failure to file penalty even though I overpaid my estimated taxes with my extension request? Or since I'm owed a refund, will the IRS just not penalize me for filing after the extension deadline? This is just for federal taxes, not state. Thanks for any help!
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Kevin Bell
You're in luck! The IRS generally doesn't assess failure-to-file penalties when the taxpayer is due a refund. The 5% per month failure-to-file penalty is calculated based on the unpaid tax amount - and since you've overpaid, there's no unpaid tax to base the penalty on. That said, there are two important points to consider: First, you should still file as soon as possible. The IRS requires you to file within 3 years of the original due date to claim your refund. After that, you forfeit your refund amount. For 2024 taxes, that means filing by April 15, 2028. Second, while there's no monetary penalty, delaying your filing means delaying your refund. The IRS won't issue your refund until you actually file your return.
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Savannah Glover
•Wait so if someone underpays with their extension, they would be charged the penalty for filing after the extension deadline? But if they overpay they're fine? Does it matter how much they overpay by?
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Kevin Bell
•That's correct - the failure-to-file penalty is calculated as a percentage of unpaid taxes. If someone underpaid with their extension, they would face penalties for both underpayment and late filing after the extension deadline. The amount of overpayment doesn't matter for penalty purposes - as long as you've paid 100% or more of what you actually owe, there's no penalty basis. However, it's generally not advisable to drastically overpay as you're essentially giving the IRS an interest-free loan of your money until you file and receive your refund.
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Ryder Everingham
Just wanted to add another point - while there's no failure-to-file penalty when you're due a refund, there IS a deadline for claiming that refund. You have 3 years from the ORIGINAL due date (not the extension date) to file and claim your refund. So for 2024 taxes, you'd need to file by April 15, 2028, or you forfeit your refund completely. The government keeps your money if you don't file within that window!
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Ella Cofer
•Thanks for this additional info! I definitely will file long before that 3-year deadline hits, but good to know there's an absolute cutoff. Does the same apply for state taxes or does that vary by state?
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Ryder Everingham
•The 3-year refund claim deadline is for federal taxes. State tax deadlines vary by state - some follow the federal 3-year rule, while others have shorter or occasionally longer timeframes. For example, California and New York generally follow the federal 3-year rule, but some states like Montana only give you 2 years to claim a refund. I'd recommend checking your specific state's tax agency website for their rules since it's not standardized across all states.
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Lilly Curtis
Something to consider - even though there's no penalty, waiting to file when you're owed a refund is basically giving the government an interest-free loan. If your refund is substantial (like over $1000), that's money that could be in your account earning interest or paying down debt.
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Leo Simmons
•True, but with the current disaster at the IRS with processing times, you might not get that refund anytime soon anyway. My brother filed in April and just got his refund last week!
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