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Could you possibly claim Head of Household status instead of Single? If you had a qualifying dependent living with you for more than half the year (like a child), you might qualify for Head of Household even though you're divorced. The tax rates are better than filing as Single. Worth looking into if you have kids or another qualifying dependent!
No kids unfortunately. It was just me and my ex-wife. We don't have any dependents together, and no one else lived with us. Based on what everyone's saying, looks like I'm stuck with the Single filing status and this huge tax bill. Just wish I'd known about this earlier in the year so I could have adjusted my withholdings.
That's tough, sorry to hear it. Without a qualifying dependent, you're right that Single is your only option. For next year, definitely update your W-4 with your employer ASAP to avoid withholding problems. One thing to consider is whether you might qualify for any tax credits based on your situation. The Saver's Credit could apply if you contributed to retirement accounts and your income isn't too high. There might also be education credits if you paid any tuition or student loan interest.
Just a heads up - this might be minor, but if you paid any medical expenses for your ex while you were still married (even if you can't claim her as a dependent), those expenses might be deductible if your total medical expenses exceed 7.5% of your adjusted gross income. Keep all receipts and documentation. Divorce tax situations are always messy, but documenting everything helps.
This is good advice. Also, don't forget about any legal fees specifically related to tax advice during your divorce. Those might be deductible too, even though general divorce attorney fees aren't. My accountant helped me identify about $1,800 in deductible legal fees from my divorce last year that were specifically for tax consultation.
For anyone dealing with backdoor Roth issues in TurboTax, here's exactly what you need to do: 1. Enter your non-deductible traditional IRA contribution first 2. Make sure to specify it's NON-DEDUCTIBLE 3. Complete the Form 8606 section entirely 4. Only THEN enter your Roth conversion information 5. Verify the basis amount carries over to the conversion screen I do this every year and it works perfectly. If you do these steps out of order, TurboTax gets confused and can't track your basis correctly.
Do you know if this same process works in H&R Block's software? I'm having the same issue there and their support has been useless.
I haven't personally used H&R Block's software recently, but the general principle is the same. You need to make sure you've entered your non-deductible contribution information and completed the equivalent of Form 8606 before you enter the conversion information. The specific navigation and screens will be different, but the sequence is what matters. Most tax software struggles with backdoor Roth conversions if you don't follow the correct order of operations. Try looking specifically for the Form 8606 section in H&R Block's software and complete that first before handling the conversion.
something nobody mentioned yet - if you have ANY other traditional IRA money with pre-tax dollars (like old 401k rollovers), the pro-rata rule is gonna mess up your backdoor roth!! the entire conversion isnt tax free even if this specific contribution was non-deductible. turbo tax should handle this if you enter all your ira balances correctly but a lot of ppl forget this part.
Just an FYI - I work at a tax prep office and we're seeing lots of clients in this exact situation. The distinction between Zelle and other payment apps is important. Zelle operates differently because it's owned by banks, not a separate payment processor. Zelle claims they don't issue 1099-Ks at all because they're just facilitating direct bank-to-bank transfers, not actually processing payments themselves. But that doesn't mean you're off the hook! If you're getting regularly scheduled payments of the same amount, that looks exactly like income to the IRS. If you get audited, they'll ask for bank statements and those Zelle deposits will be right there. Better to report it all now than pay penalties and interest later.
Thanks for this info! So even if Zelle doesn't report it, I should still be reporting this income? Would I just add it as "miscellaneous income" or would I need to file as self-employed with a Schedule C?
You should definitely report the income regardless of whether Zelle issues a 1099-K. Since you're receiving regular payments for work performed, this would be considered self-employment income, not miscellaneous income. You'll need to file Schedule C to report your business income and expenses, and Schedule SE to calculate your self-employment tax. This is actually better for you in many ways because with Schedule C, you can deduct legitimate business expenses that reduce your taxable income. If you have a home office, use your phone for work, or have any other expenses related to this work, those can potentially be deductible.
Is anyone else noticing that the payment apps are super inconsistent with reporting? I get payments through CashApp, Venmo AND Zelle for my small business and last year only PayPal sent me a 1099-K even though I made over $10k on each platform.
Same experience here. I got a 1099-K from PayPal but nothing from Venmo despite making similar amounts on both. I reported everything anyway because I don't want headaches with the IRS, but the inconsistency is frustrating. I think different platforms are interpreting the requirements differently.
Hey everyone, I'm a tax preparer (not a CPA) and I see this Form 8863 issue all the time. Another thing to check is if you received any scholarships or grants. Those reduce your qualified education expenses for the Lifetime Learning Credit calculation. For example, if you paid $5000 in tuition but received a $4000 scholarship, you can only use $1000 as your qualified education expense. That might be why you're ending up with zero, especially if your education expenses weren't that high after considering scholarships. Also, make sure you're eligible for the credit based on your income. The Lifetime Learning Credit phases out at higher income levels (starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers and $160,000 for joint filers for 2024 returns).
That's a great point! I didn't even think about my scholarship reducing my eligible expenses. I received about $3,500 in scholarships last year. So if my tuition was $5,000, I would only be able to claim $1,500 for the Lifetime Learning Credit?
That's exactly right! You would only be able to claim $1,500 as your qualified education expenses in that scenario. And remember, the Lifetime Learning Credit is calculated as 20% of your qualified expenses, so your potential credit would be $300 ($1,500 Ć 20%). Then, that potential credit amount gets compared to your remaining tax liability on the Credit Limit Worksheet. If your remaining tax liability is less than $300 (or zero), that's why you'd end up with zero or a reduced credit amount on line 19 of Form 8863.
Has anyone tried using a different tax software? I was using FreeTaxUSA and had the exact same issue with Form 8863 and the Lifetime Learning Credit. Switched to TaxSlayer and somehow it calculated a credit for me. Not sure if it's correct but it definitely gave me a different result.
I used both TurboTax and H&R Block and got the same zero result with the Lifetime Learning Credit. I think different software might do the calculations slightly differently, but the end result should be the same if you're entering the same information. Might be worth double-checking that you input everything identically in both programs.
Andre Dupont
I had this exact same issue with my husband! He claimed 8 exemptions and was getting almost nothing withheld. What finally worked for me was showing him our total tax liability from last year's return and then explaining that this amount needs to be paid somehow - either through withholding or at tax time. In our case, our total tax was about $12,000. I showed him that I had $8,000 withheld, but he only had $200 withheld, meaning we owed $3,800 at tax time. Once he saw the actual numbers and realized we were essentially giving the government an interest-free loan if we overpaid, but would face penalties if we underpaid by too much, it finally clicked. The new W-4 is actually easier because you don't have to figure out some magic number of "allowances" - you just follow the steps.
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Nia Jackson
ā¢That's a great way to explain it! I'm definitely going to try this approach. Our tax liability last year was around $10,500 and I had about $9,800 withheld while he had his measly $46. We ended up owing, but it wasn't too bad since I had extra withheld from my checks. Do you know if there's a penalty for underwithholding even if you pay everything you owe by April 15th?
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Andre Dupont
ā¢Yes, there can still be a penalty even if you pay everything by April 15th. It's called an "underpayment penalty" and the IRS expects you to pay your taxes throughout the year, not just at filing time. The general rule is that you need to have paid at least 90% of this year's tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income is over $150,000) through withholding or estimated quarterly payments to avoid the penalty. So if you're significantly underwithholding, you could face penalties even if you pay the full amount when you file.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
One thing nobody's mentioned - check if your husband is confusing allowances with the number of dependents. A lot of people think they should put the total number of people in their household. With you, him, and 2 kids, he might have thought 4 was right and then somehow ended up putting 9? Also, if your husband refuses to change his W-4 even after you explain it, you can adjust YOUR withholding to compensate. On the new W-4, in Step 4(c), you can request additional withholding from your paychecks. It's not ideal, but it would prevent owing a huge amount at tax time.
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Jamal Wilson
ā¢This is exactly what happened to my coworker! He thought the form was asking for how many people were in his extended family, so he put 12 (counting parents, siblings, etc.). His first paycheck had like $3 in federal withholding and payroll had to explain the mistake.
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