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Ethan Clark

Is forming an LLC as S Corp worth it to reduce self-employment tax on $55K income in US?

Hey everyone, I'm currently bringing in around $55,000 annually as a freelance web developer and the self-employment tax is seriously eating into my profits. I've been researching ways to reduce this burden and keep coming across the strategy of starting an LLC and electing S Corp tax treatment. From what I understand, I would need to pay myself a "reasonable salary" and then could take the rest as distributions which wouldn't be subject to self-employment tax. Would something like $40,000-$42,000 be considered reasonable for my industry? Does living in Northern Virginia impact what's considered reasonable? My wife and I have a combined income of about $106,000. She's a teacher with regular W-2 income, so it's just my portion that's getting hit with the self-employment tax. I'm worried about the added costs though - attorney fees to set up the LLC, potential CPA expenses, and some kind of payroll software to handle the required salary payments. Do these expenses actually make sense for someone at my income level, or am I better off just paying the self-employment taxes? Thanks for any advice!

AstroAce

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The S Corp strategy can definitely work to reduce self-employment taxes, but there are some important considerations at your income level. At $55,000, you need to carefully weigh the costs versus benefits. When you elect S Corp taxation, you'll save on self-employment tax for any amount above your reasonable salary. The IRS doesn't have a fixed formula for what's "reasonable," but they look at what similar professionals in your area make in comparable positions. For a web developer in Northern Virginia making $55K total, a $40-42K salary is probably in the reasonable range, but documentation is key. Research salary surveys for your specific role and keep that information to support your position. As for expenses: expect $500-1,000 for LLC formation, $1,000-2,000 annually for a CPA, and $30-50 monthly for basic payroll software. You'll also need to file more complex tax returns and potentially quarterly employment tax forms. Quick math: If your salary is $40K and business profit is $55K, you'd save about 15.3% self-employment tax on $15K (roughly $2,300/year). So if your annual costs are around $2,000, you'd still come out ahead, but not dramatically.

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Thanks for breaking this down! I've heard some people say you should pay yourself at least 60% of your business income as salary. Is that actually a rule? Also, do you have to take distributions regularly or can you just leave the money in the business account?

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AstroAce

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The 60% guideline isn't an official IRS rule, it's more of a general guideline some tax professionals suggest. The IRS simply requires a "reasonable salary" based on your qualifications, job responsibilities, and comparable positions in your industry and location. Documentation is more important than hitting a specific percentage. Regarding distributions, you have flexibility. You don't have to take distributions regularly - you can leave profits in the business account for future business expenses or take them periodically as needed. The tax benefit occurs because those retained earnings or distributions aren't subject to self-employment tax, only income tax when distributed.

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Carmen Vega

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How exactly does this work? Does it just give you general advice or actually help with the paperwork? I'm in a similar situation but making around $70k and getting killed on self-employment taxes.

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Zoe Stavros

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Doesn't the IRS look at each situation individually? I'm worried about using a tool that might get me in trouble if I set my salary too low.

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Carmen Vega

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Zoe Stavros

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Jamal Harris

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GalaxyGlider

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How does this actually work? Seems weird that they can somehow get through when nobody else can. Is it expensive?

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Mei Wong

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This sounds like complete BS. If it was that easy to get through to the IRS, everyone would be doing it. I've tried calling about my S corp stuff for MONTHS with no luck.

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Jamal Harris

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Mei Wong

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Liam Sullivan

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the opportunity to save on Medicare surtax too. If your joint income is over $250k married filing jointly, S-corp could save you from the additional 0.9% Medicare tax on income above that threshold. Based on your current combined income of $106k, this isn't an immediate concern, but it's something to keep in mind if either of your incomes increase substantially in the future. Also consider that when you have an S-corp, you can potentially deduct health insurance premiums as a business expense, which you can't do as a sole proprietor. There are specific requirements for this, but it's another potential benefit.

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Ethan Clark

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That's actually really helpful to know about the Medicare surtax. My wife is up for a pretty significant promotion in the next year that could bump our combined income closer to $150K, and I'm expecting my business to grow too. Definitely something to keep in mind for the future planning. Do you know if there's a specific income threshold where the S-Corp election becomes a no-brainer? Like is there a point where the benefits clearly outweigh the costs?

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Liam Sullivan

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There's no universal threshold where it becomes a "no-brainer" since everyone's situation differs, but many tax professionals suggest around $80,000-$100,000 in net business profit is where the benefits typically start to clearly outweigh the costs for most businesses. At your current $55,000, you're right on the borderline where it could make sense depending on your growth trajectory. If you expect to be at $70,000+ within a year or two, it might be worth setting it up now to have the structure in place. Another factor to consider is that if you wait until your income is higher, you'll have more self-employment tax savings but might attract more scrutiny on your reasonable salary determination. Starting at a lower income level sometimes gives you a more established salary history.

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Amara Okafor

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Just want to mention that reasonable salary is somewhat subjective depending on your actual role and responsibilities. I'm a graphic designer making around $65k and my tax guy helped me document a $45k salary because I do a lot of administrative and sales work besides just design. Make sure you're documenting your various job duties. If you're doing sales, admin, project management etc on top of web development, you might be able to justify a lower salary percentage since part of your income is coming from non-development activities.

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That's really smart! Do you have any specific tips on how to document all those different responsibilities? Like do you keep a time log or something?

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One thing to also think about: S-Corps have to file taxes on a calendar year, unlike LLCs which can choose fiscal years. Also ask your CPA about health insurance deductions which work differently for S-Corps. Don't forget you'll need to do a seperate tax return for the business (Form 1120-S) plus your personal return. And if you miss filing deadlines the penalties can be rough.

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Ethan Clark

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Oh that's a good point about the calendar year requirement. My business tends to be seasonal with a lot of income at the end of the year, so that might actually work out well for planning purposes. Do you happen to know if I'd need to start taking a salary immediately after forming the S-Corp? Or could I wait until I've built up some reserves in the business account first?

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You should start taking a reasonable salary as soon as the S-Corp election is effective. The IRS looks suspiciously at S-Corps that distribute profits without paying any salary, as that appears to be avoiding payroll taxes. That said, you don't necessarily need to take a salary with every single payment that comes in. Many S-Corp owners set up quarterly or monthly payroll for themselves, allowing some cash to accumulate in the business account before processing payroll. Just make sure that by the end of the tax year, you've paid yourself a reasonable salary relative to the profit the business generated. Your payroll schedule should be consistent and documented as part of your business practices.

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