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I'm a bookkeeper, and I see Form 2210 penalty issues fairly often. Most of the time, it's due to an input error like others have mentioned. But there's another potential issue you should check: If your income distribution was significantly uneven throughout the year (making much more in certain quarters than others), the standard withholding tables might not have taken out enough. This is especially true when you have a period of unemployment followed by higher income. The IRS expects tax payments to be made evenly throughout the year. If your husband was out of work and then returned to a higher-paying position, the withholding might be calculated incorrectly for your annual income. Double-check the "annualized income installment method" section in the software to see if that applies to your situation.
That's really interesting and might explain part of our situation. My husband was making around $6,000/month, then was unemployed for about 2.5 months, but when he returned to work, his new position paid about $7,200/month. So his income pattern was definitely uneven. Would the software automatically check for this "annualized income installment method" or do I need to specifically tell it to use this calculation?
Most tax software doesn't automatically check the annualized income installment method - you typically need to select it manually. Look for a checkbox or option labeled something like "Use Annualized Income Installment Method" or "Special calculation for uneven income" when you're in the estimated tax/penalty section. If your husband's income pattern was uneven as you described, this method might reduce or eliminate any remaining penalty after you fix the decimal point error. The annualized method essentially tells the IRS "I didn't make this money evenly throughout the year, so don't expect my tax payments to be even either.
Has anyone noticed that TaxHawk seems to have more issues with 2210 calculations than other software? I tried three different programs this year (TaxHawk, TaxSlayer, and FreeTaxUSA) and they all gave me slightly different penalty amounts.
Don't forget that if you're amending your federal return, you might need to amend your state return too! Each state has different deadlines for amendments. For example, California gives you 4 years instead of 3. I almost missed out on a state refund because I was only focused on the federal deadline.
Does anyone know if you have to wait for the IRS to process the federal amendment before filing the state amendment? Or can you do both at the same time?
You can generally file both federal and state amendments at the same time - you don't need to wait for the federal to be processed first. However, you should make sure the information matches on both amendments. Some states do want you to include a copy of your federal amendment with your state amendment, so have that ready when you prepare your state forms. And definitely check your specific state's deadline - while many follow the federal 3-year rule, quite a few have different timeframes that could work in your favor.
Has anyone actually had success getting the IRS to make an exception to the 3-year rule? I filed my 2019 return late (in 2021) because of personal issues during COVID, and I just realized I'm entitled to a refund but might be outside the window.
The only exception I know of is if you were physically or mentally unable to manage your financial affairs during that time. It's called "financial disability" and requires certification from a doctor. It's in Internal Revenue Code section 6511(h) if you want to look it up.
I've heard military members deployed in combat zones get extensions too, and there might be something for people in federally declared disaster areas. But from everything I've read, they're super strict about that 3-year limit for regular situations.
I work in payroll and can confirm that a W-2C should have been issued in your situation. When an employee has already received an incorrect W-2, the proper procedure is to issue a W-2C showing the corrections, not just send a "new" W-2. For Cafe 125 deductions, they don't technically need to be in Box 14, but it's considered a best practice to list them there so employees understand why their Box 1 wages are lower than their gross pay. The important part is that Box 1 wages are correctly reduced by these pre-tax contributions. When you file your amended return, make sure to include both the original W-2 and the corrected one, along with a note explaining the situation.
Thank you for the insider perspective! That's really helpful. Do you know if there's any way I can request that they issue a proper W-2C instead of just this "updated W-2"? I'm worried about potential issues with my amended return without the proper documentation.
You should contact your payroll department again and specifically request a W-2C, explaining that you've already filed using the incorrect W-2 and need the proper correction form for your amended return. Mention that this is the standard procedure according to IRS guidelines. If they continue to refuse, you can still file your amended return with the documentation you have. Include a written explanation that you requested a W-2C but the employer only provided an updated W-2. The IRS is familiar with employers not always following proper procedures, and your explanation should help prevent any issues with your amended return.
Your situation is suuuper common with companies that switch payroll systems or get acquired! I had the exact same issue last year when my company switched from ADP to Paylocity mid-year. For your amendment, make sure you're using Form 1040-X and include copies of BOTH the incorrect W-2 you originally filed with AND the corrected one. Even though it's not a proper W-2C, the IRS will still process your amendment. Pro tip: If you're using tax software for the amendment, most of them will walk you through how to handle a W-2 correction. TurboTax specifically has a section for "I received a corrected W-2" that works even if it's not technically a W-2C.
Something important to keep in mind about the Saver's Credit that people often miss - even if you qualify based on student status, you need to make sure you're not being claimed as a dependent on someone else's tax return. If your parents are claiming you as a dependent, you're not eligible for the credit regardless of your student status or income level. Also, don't forget that the credit has different percentage tiers based on income and filing status. With an AGI of $29k, you'd be in the 10% or 20% tier depending on whether you're filing as single, head of household, or married.
Good point about the dependent status. I'm 25 and completely support myself, so my parents definitely aren't claiming me as a dependent. And I'm filing as single. With my $29k AGI, do you know which percentage tier I'd fall into exactly?
For a single filer with a $29,000 AGI in tax year 2024 (filing in 2025), you'd qualify for the 10% Saver's Credit tier. The 50% tier cutoff for single filers is $21,750, the 20% tier goes up to $23,500, and the 10% tier extends to $36,500. So with your contribution to your Roth IRA, you'd get a tax credit worth 10% of your contribution amount, up to a maximum credit of $200 (which would be based on a $2,000 contribution). Every bit helps when it comes to tax savings!
Has anyone here actually claimed the Saver's Credit successfully using TurboTax or H&R Block software? I'm using TurboTax and it kept asking me confusing questions about my student status that didn't seem to match what everyone is saying here.
I used H&R Block last year and it handled the Saver's Credit correctly. The software asked if I was a full-time student for at least 5 months during the year (yes/no question) rather than asking for all the specific months. Make sure you're answering based on the 5-month rule, not just whether you were in school.
Liam Cortez
Honestly, I think it depends on how much you value your time vs money. I make about the same as you ($150k) and I used to do my own taxes with crypto and rental properties. Spent probably 15-20 hours every year stressing and researching. Last year I paid a CPA $650 and it was the best money I've spent. He found some obscure deductions for my small business that I had no idea about, showed me how to better track crypto for this year, and I actually ended up with a bigger refund than when I did it myself. Plus, the peace of mind knowing someone who does this for a living has reviewed everything is worth it to me.
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Savannah Vin
ā¢Did your CPA give you advice for the current tax year or just file last year's return? I'm considering one but want ongoing tax planning, not just filing help once a year.
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Liam Cortez
ā¢My CPA definitely provided advice for the current year, which was one of the most valuable parts of working with him. After filing my previous year's return, we had a separate 30-minute call specifically focused on tax planning strategies for the current year. He suggested restructuring how I track business expenses, recommended setting up quarterly estimated payments to avoid penalties, and gave me a spreadsheet template for better tracking my crypto transactions throughout the year. Good CPAs view the relationship as ongoing tax optimization, not just a once-a-year filing service.
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Mason Stone
Anyone try those crypto-specific tax software options? I've been looking at Koinly and CoinTracker since they're supposed to be better than general tax software for handling crypto stuff. Wondering if those might be a middle ground between DIY and expensive CPA?
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Makayla Shoemaker
ā¢I used CoinTracker last year and it was decent for basic stuff but struggled with some DeFi transactions and NFTs. It helped organize everything but I still needed to make a lot of manual adjustments. Better than nothing though!
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