LLC as S Corp to reduce self-employment tax burden - worth it at $55K income?
Hey everyone, I'm currently making around $73,000 yearly as a freelance web developer and the self-employment tax is killing me. I've been doing some research and came across the idea of forming an LLC and electing S Corp status to potentially save on those taxes. From what I understand, if I go this route, I'd need to pay myself a "reasonable salary" and then can take the rest as distributions which wouldn't be subject to SE tax. Does anyone know what would be considered reasonable for my situation? Would something like $53-55K be acceptable? I'm located in Seattle and my spouse and I have a combined income of about $135,000. I'm trying to figure out if the savings would be worth all the extra costs like legal fees to set up the LLC, accountant fees for the more complex taxes, and some payroll service to handle the salary payments. Has anyone gone through this process? Was it worth it at my income level? Any advice would be super appreciated!
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Amina Toure
The S Corp strategy can definitely work to reduce self-employment taxes, but there are some important considerations at your income level. When you elect S Corp status, you'll need to pay yourself a reasonable salary subject to regular employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare), while the remaining profits can be taken as distributions not subject to self-employment tax. The key word is "reasonable" - the IRS looks closely at this. For a web developer in Seattle making $73K, a salary of $53-55K is probably reasonable, but this varies by industry, location, and what comparable positions in your area earn. I'd suggest researching average salaries for web developers in your area to justify your number. As for whether it's worth it - at $73K, you're right at the threshold where it typically starts making financial sense. You'll need to consider: - Annual LLC fees in Washington state - Accounting fees (likely $1,000-2,000 annually for S Corp tax returns) - Payroll service ($40-100/month) - Additional tax filing requirements Many find the breakeven point is around $60-70K in profit, so you're just crossing that threshold. I'd recommend getting a consultation with a CPA who can run the exact numbers for your situation.
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Oliver Weber
•Would you still recommend forming the LLC first and then electing S Corp status later when income increases? Or just go straight to S Corp if you're expecting growth? I'm in a similar situation but only making about $55K right now, though hoping to hit $80K next year.
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Amina Toure
•I'd generally recommend forming the LLC first and then making the S Corp election when your income justifies it. This gives you flexibility while minimizing initial costs. If you're currently at $55K but anticipating $80K next year, you might wait until your income increases to make the S Corp election. You can operate as a single-member LLC (taxed as a sole proprietorship) until then, which requires much less paperwork and cost. The LLC itself still provides liability protection without the S Corp tax complications.
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FireflyDreams
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•How does it determine what's a "reasonable salary" though? That's the part I'm most confused about. Does it just tell you a number or explain the reasoning?
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Javier Morales
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How accurate can it be? Does it consider state-specific factors? I'm in California and have heard our rules make the whole thing more complicated and expensive.
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FireflyDreams
•The tool uses industry data to suggest reasonable salary ranges based on your profession, location, and business specifics. It doesn't just give you a number - it shows the salary ranges for your industry and explains the factors the IRS typically considers when determining if a salary is reasonable. It even flags if your desired salary might be too low based on industry standards. For state-specific factors, yes - it definitely accounts for those. The analysis includes state-specific compliance requirements and costs. For California specifically, it factors in the $800 minimum franchise tax, higher filing fees, and additional compliance requirements that impact your break-even point. It actually warned me that California's costs push the S-Corp advantage threshold closer to $80-90K for some businesses there.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
I just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after trying it based on this thread. I was really on the fence about the LLC/S-Corp thing since I'm making about $62K as a graphic designer. The analysis showed me that in my case, I'd only save about $800 per year after all the additional expenses, which honestly wasn't worth the hassle right now. What I didn't expect was how clearly it showed the projected savings as my income grows. If I hit my goal of $85K next year, that's when the savings become significant (around $2,700 after expenses). I'm going to stay as a sole proprietor this year but have a clear plan to make the switch when I hit that income level. The salary recommendation tool was super helpful too - showed me that for my field and city, anything below $55K would likely trigger IRS questions. That was way higher than I was planning to set!
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Emma Anderson
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Malik Thompson
•How exactly does this work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't you just use the callback feature on the IRS line?
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Isabella Ferreira
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Emma Anderson
•They use a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line, then calls you when they reach an agent. It's not just calling for you - it's holding your place in the queue so you don't have to stay on the line for hours. The IRS callback feature isn't available for all lines, and even when it is, it often reaches capacity early in the day. I tried the callback option for three days straight on the business line and either got "callback not available" or was told the wait was too long to even offer a callback. The Claimyr service works on lines where callback isn't offered or when the callback queue is full.
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Isabella Ferreira
I'm completely eating my words right now. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr because I was desperate to talk to someone about my S-Corp election that I messed up on my filing date. No joke - I was connected to an IRS rep in 27 minutes after spending literally 6+ hours on hold over three different days trying to do it myself. The agent helped me sort out my late S-Corp election issue and even helped me understand what documentation I needed for the reasonable compensation test. This saved me so much stress and potentially thousands in taxes from my messed-up election timing. For anyone on the fence about forming an S-Corp, being able to actually TALK to the IRS and get clear answers made a huge difference in my confidence moving forward with it.
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CosmicVoyager
From my experience as someone who made this switch at around $65k, here are some practical costs you should budget for: 1. Initial LLC formation: $200-300 depending on state 2. S-Corp election: Free (just file Form 2553) 3. Annual LLC fees: Varies by state ($150 in my state) 4. Payroll service: I use Gusto which costs about $45/month ($540/year) 5. Accountant: My tax preparation went from $350 to $1,200 annually 6. Bookkeeping software: $25/month for QuickBooks ($300/year) So my additional annual costs are around $2,190. But I'm saving about $3,800 in SE taxes by having a $48k salary with the rest as distributions. So net benefit around $1,600 per year. The time commitment is also significant - about 2-3 hours per month dealing with payroll, bookkeeping, etc. that I didn't have before.
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Ravi Kapoor
•Did you have to get a separate business bank account and strictly separate personal vs business expenses? That part seems complicated.
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CosmicVoyager
•Yes, keeping separate accounts is absolutely essential. I have a dedicated business checking account, savings account, and credit card that I ONLY use for business expenses. This creates what accountants call a "clean separation" between personal and business finances. This separation is critically important when you have an S-Corp to avoid having your corporate veil pierced in case of legal issues. It also makes bookkeeping much easier and helps prove to the IRS that you're operating a legitimate business. Mixing personal and business expenses is a huge red flag that can trigger audits.
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Freya Nielsen
Has anyone used a PEO (Professional Employer Organization) instead of regular payroll for their S-Corp? I'm hearing they can be cheaper than traditional payroll services and they handle all the compliance stuff.
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Omar Mahmoud
•I use Justworks for my S-Corp and it's been amazing. They handle all payroll taxes, compliance filings, and even offer health insurance options that are better than what I could get as a tiny business. It costs a bit more than basic payroll ($49/month per employee) but the time savings and reduced stress are worth it.
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