Is the IRS still allowing S-Corp payroll tax savings for a single shareholder LLC?
I've been running my small business as an LLC for about 3 years now, and I'm finally making enough money that I'm looking at restructuring to save on taxes. I'm thinking about converting to an S-Corp so that I (as the only shareholder) can potentially save on payroll taxes. From what I understand, I could pay myself a reasonable salary and then take the rest as distributions which wouldn't be subject to those payroll taxes. But I've heard mixed things about whether the IRS is still cool with this approach or if they've cracked down on it. I'm a little confused about how much of a "reasonable salary" I need to pay myself vs. distributions. My business made around $135,000 last year, and I'm trying to figure out if the S-Corp switch is worth the extra paperwork and hassle. Does anyone know if this strategy still works? Are there any recent IRS rulings or guidelines I should be aware of? Would really appreciate hearing from someone who's actually doing this!
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Dmitry Volkov
The S-Corporation strategy for reducing self-employment taxes is still valid and frequently used. Here's how it works: as an S-Corp shareholder-employee, you must pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), but additional profit can be distributed as dividends which aren't subject to those payroll taxes. What's "reasonable" depends on your industry, location, skills, and what similar positions would earn. The IRS looks closely at this - too low a salary raises red flags. For a business making $135K, you might need a salary of $60K-$90K depending on your industry and role, with the remainder available as distributions. Keep in mind you'll have additional costs: filing Form 1120-S, payroll processing, potential state filing fees, and possibly an accountant. You'll also need to run proper payroll, withhold taxes, and issue yourself a W-2.
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StarSeeker
•Thanks for explaining this! I've heard different opinions about what percentage of total income should be salary vs. distributions. Is there a general rule of thumb? And how picky is the IRS about the "reasonable salary" part? I feel like that's super subjective.
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Dmitry Volkov
•The IRS doesn't provide a specific percentage formula, but they do look at several factors to determine reasonableness. There's no one-size-fits-all answer, but your salary should reflect what you'd pay someone else to do your job in your location. The IRS can be quite meticulous about reasonable compensation. They've won numerous cases against S-Corp owners who paid themselves too little. They'll consider industry standards, your qualifications, time devoted to the business, and what comparable positions pay. Documentation of how you determined your salary will strengthen your position if questioned.
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Ava Martinez
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Miguel Ortiz
•How accurate was their analysis? I've tried online calculators before but they seem super generic. Does this actually take your specific business type into account when calculating the reasonable salary range?
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Zainab Omar
•I'm a bit skeptical about these online tools. Did you end up using their recommendations when you filed? Did your CPA agree with what they suggested for salary vs distributions?
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Ava Martinez
•The analysis was surprisingly accurate. Unlike generic calculators, it pulled industry-specific compensation data for my business type, size, and location to show what's considered reasonable. It gave me a specific percentage range rather than a generic calculation. Yes, I did use their recommendations when I filed. My CPA was initially skeptical but after reviewing the detailed report and industry benchmarking data it provided, she actually agreed with their suggested salary range. She was impressed with the documentation it provided to support my position if there were ever questions from the IRS. The peace of mind from having that backup documentation was worth it alone.
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Miguel Ortiz
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Connor Murphy
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Yara Sayegh
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Connor Murphy
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NebulaNova
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Keisha Williams
Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're considering ALL the costs of an S-Corp before making the switch. I did this last year and while I am saving on SE tax, I'm paying about $1200/year for payroll services, $850 for my S-Corp tax return (Form 1120-S) on top of my personal return, plus state filing fees. In my state (CA) there's also an $800 minimum franchise tax just for the privilege of having an S-Corp. Run the numbers carefully! For me it's still worth it but barely - if I was making under $100k it probably wouldn't be.
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Paolo Conti
•Do you think it's worth hiring a payroll company or can you DIY the payroll part? I'm trying to figure out if I need to build that into my costs or if it's manageable to do yourself.
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Keisha Williams
•I definitely recommend hiring a payroll company. I tried DIY payroll for the first quarter and it was a nightmare - quarterly filings, different deadlines for different forms, managing withholding. Made one small mistake and got a penalty. A decent payroll service handles all the tax deposits, filings, W-2s, and keeps you compliant. It's worth the $80-100/month for the peace of mind alone. Plus if they make a mistake, most will cover any penalties. Consider the value of your time too - I was spending 3-4 hours per month on payroll tasks that now happen automatically.
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Amina Diallo
Quick question about the timing - if I operate as an LLC now but want to switch to S-Corp, can I do that midyear or do I need to wait until January to make the change? I just learned about this strategy and don't want to wait 6 months if I don't have to...
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Dmitry Volkov
•Once you've formed your LLC, you have two options for S-Corp election timing. For an existing LLC, you have up to 2 months and 15 days from the beginning of the tax year to file Form 2553 for it to be effective for the current year. Outside that window, it typically takes effect the following tax year.
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Oliver Schulz
•I think the other reply is a bit simplified. You can actually request a late S election by providing a "reasonable cause" for missing the deadline. I did this last summer and got approved. You just attach a statement explaining why you missed the deadline (I said I wasn't aware of the filing requirements until I consulted with a tax professional). Worth a shot if you're past the 2 months 15 days window!
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Diego Chavez
I made this exact transition from LLC to S-Corp election about 18 months ago when my consulting business hit similar revenue levels. The strategy absolutely still works, but you need to be strategic about it. For your $135K revenue, you'll likely want to pay yourself somewhere in the $70-85K range as W-2 salary (this varies by industry and location). The key is documenting WHY that's reasonable - look up comparable positions on salary websites, consider your education/experience, hours worked, etc. The tax savings can be significant - you'll save about 15.3% in self-employment taxes on the distribution portion. But factor in the additional costs: payroll processing (~$100/month), S-Corp tax return preparation (~$800-1500), and your time for compliance. One tip that saved me headaches: set up your payroll to pay yourself the same amount each month rather than trying to optimize it quarterly. Makes bookkeeping much cleaner and looks more legitimate to the IRS. Also, make sure you're actually taking those distributions regularly throughout the year, not just on paper at year-end. The paperwork isn't terrible once you get systems in place, and the tax savings usually justify the extra complexity at your income level.
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