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Zara Malik

S-Corp Owner Compensation Strategies: Balancing Salary vs. Distributions

Hey everyone, I'm a single-member LLC that elected S-Corp status and I'm trying to figure out the best approach for paying myself. The whole reasonable compensation thing is driving me crazy! I've talked to two different CPAs and somehow feel more confused than when I started. My business is expected to bring in around $270k this year. From what I understand, the low end of average compensation for the work I do is about $133k. Obviously I want to minimize self-employment taxes while staying compliant, and I'd rather put that money into my own retirement accounts instead of Social Security. The CPAs have given me conflicting advice. One suggested I could take all owner distributions without a salary (which sounds sketchy), while another recommended splitting my compensation between W-2 salary and owner distributions. A third option mentioned was some combination of 1099 payments and distributions. One CPA told me $60k would be a good salary figure, but then didn't fully explain why or how that would work with distributions. I feel like I'm missing something here. Anyone with S-Corp experience have insight on how to properly structure this to be compliant while minimizing unnecessary taxation?

Luca Marino

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What you're experiencing is pretty common confusion with S-Corps. The IRS requires S-Corp owners to take a "reasonable compensation" as W-2 wages before taking distributions. This is non-negotiable - the idea that you can take all owner distributions without a salary is incorrect and would likely trigger an audit. The reason is simple: distributions aren't subject to self-employment taxes (Medicare and Social Security), while W-2 wages are. The IRS knows this and watches closely to ensure owners don't avoid payroll taxes by taking only distributions. For "reasonable compensation," the IRS looks at what someone would be paid for similar work in your industry and location. With $270k in business income and comparable positions at $133k, taking only $60k as salary might be pushing it. Many tax professionals suggest at least 40-50% of profits as salary in your situation.

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Nia Davis

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So the CPA who told OP they could take all owner distributions was just flat-out wrong? That seems like really bad advice! How does the IRS actually determine what's "reasonable" though? Is there a specific formula or something?

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Luca Marino

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The CPA giving advice about taking only distributions was definitely giving risky advice that could cause problems later. The IRS doesn't have a specific formula for "reasonable compensation" - they look at multiple factors including industry standards, your qualifications, time spent in the business, and what similar positions would pay in your geographic area. They also look at the history of distributions compared to salary. If you're taking $200k in distributions but only $30k in salary, that raises red flags. The goal is to show you're not artificially lowering your salary just to avoid payroll taxes.

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I'm skeptical. How do they know what's "reasonable" better than a CPA who specializes in small businesses? Are they just being super conservative to avoid any audit risk? I'd rather push the acceptable limits a bit than overpay taxes unnecessarily.

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S-Corp owner here for 5+ years. Here's what I've learned the hard way: you NEED to take a W-2 salary that's reasonable. Period. The whole "take only distributions" approach will absolutely get you in trouble. For my business ($350k revenue), I take about 45% as W-2 salary and the rest as distributions. My CPA helped me document why this is reasonable based on my industry and role. We keep a file with salary surveys, job postings for similar positions, etc. Remember that while you save on SE tax with distributions, you're also reducing your Social Security credits which impacts retirement. And if you're planning on getting a mortgage, lenders prefer W-2 income over distributions. Just something to consider in your overall planning.

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Zara Malik

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Do you think the 45% rule of thumb would apply in most situations? Also, how do you handle retirement contributions - SEP IRA, Solo 401k, or something else?

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The 45% isn't a universal rule - it's what works for my specific situation. Your percentage will depend on your industry, role, qualifications, and region. Some specialized professions might justify higher or lower percentages. The key is having documentation to back up whatever percentage you choose. For retirement, I use a Solo 401k since it allows for both employer and employee contributions. With an S-Corp, I can make employer contributions based on my W-2 salary (up to 25%) plus make employee contributions up to the annual limit ($22,500 for 2023 plus catch-up if you're over 50). This gives me much higher contribution limits than a SEP IRA would.

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Zoe Papadakis

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Quick question - does anyone know if you can pay yourself partially as a 1099 contractor and partially through distributions? One of the CPAs I talked to suggested this approach but it seems weird to be both an employee AND a contractor for my own S-Corp.

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Luca Marino

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You can't be a 1099 contractor to your own S-Corporation - that's a red flag. As the owner, you're either an employee (W-2) or taking distributions as a shareholder. The IRS would view any attempt to pay yourself as a 1099 contractor from your own S-Corp as an attempt to avoid payroll taxes.

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Diego Mendoza

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This is exactly the kind of confusion that drives S-Corp owners crazy! Here's what I've learned after going through this same struggle: the "reasonable compensation" requirement is real and non-negotiable, but there's definitely room to optimize within the rules. With $270k in business income and comparable positions at $133k, I'd lean toward taking somewhere between $100k-$120k as W-2 salary. That CPA suggesting $60k might be too aggressive given your income level and industry standards. Remember, the IRS looks at the total picture - if you're taking $210k in distributions but only $60k in salary, that ratio could trigger scrutiny. The key is documentation. Keep records of salary surveys in your field, job postings for similar roles, and any other evidence that supports your compensation level. I also recommend having your CPA prepare a memo explaining the reasoning behind your salary/distribution split in case you ever need to defend it. One thing to consider: while minimizing payroll taxes saves money now, those reduced Social Security credits will impact your future benefits. It's a trade-off worth factoring into your decision.

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Jayden Hill

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to the S-Corp world and honestly feeling overwhelmed by all the conflicting information out there. Your point about documentation is something I hadn't really considered - I was just focused on the numbers. Quick question: when you mention keeping salary surveys and job postings, do you literally save actual job listings from companies hiring for similar roles? And how often should you update this documentation? I'm worried about getting it right from the start rather than having to fix problems later. Also, the Social Security credits point is interesting. I'm in my early 30s, so retirement feels far away, but I guess it's worth thinking about the long-term impact of these decisions now.

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