Can an S Corp law firm owner making $5M annually set "reasonable compensation" at $168,600 (where Social Security maxes out)?
I've got a potentially sensitive tax question about S Corp reasonable compensation. My law practice has grown significantly, and last year we pulled in just over $5 million in revenue. I'm the only attorney and sole shareholder in the S Corp. I've been reading about the "reasonable compensation" requirements, and I'm wondering if I can justifiably set my salary at $168,600 since that's where Social Security tax maxes out in 2025. My accountant is being vague about it, saying I need to pay myself "reasonable compensation" based on market rates, but I feel like once I'm past the SS max, there's no benefit to classifying more as salary vs. distributions. Would the IRS have an issue with this salary level given the firm's revenue? I understand I need to pay myself what I'd pay someone else to do my job, but I also don't want to overpay payroll taxes if I don't have to. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? What factors should I be considering beyond just the SS maximum?
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Zoe Papanikolaou
The question isn't really if $168,600 is "enough" - it's whether that compensation is reasonable for the services you're providing to your S Corp. The Social Security wage base limit isn't a determining factor for reasonable compensation. The IRS looks at what would be reasonable to pay someone with your qualifications, experience, and responsibilities in your geographic area. For a law firm generating $5 million in revenue where you're the only attorney, $168,600 would likely be considered unreasonably low. The IRS could argue a significant portion of your distributions should be reclassified as wages. Factors the IRS considers include: training and experience, duties and responsibilities, time spent working, comparable businesses' compensation, payments to non-shareholder employees, and your firm's compensation history. They'll also look at your revenue-to-compensation ratio - and a 30:1 ratio ($5M:$168K) would raise immediate red flags. Consider getting market compensation data for attorneys in your specialty with similar revenue generation. This gives you documentation to support whatever number you determine is reasonable.
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Andre Dupont
•Thanks for the detailed response. I understand what you're saying about market rates, but I'm confused about exactly how the IRS determines what's "reasonable." If I pay myself $350k instead, would that be enough? What about $500k? Is there some percentage of revenue they expect?
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•There's no fixed percentage or formula the IRS uses - reasonable compensation is determined case-by-case. For a solo attorney generating $5M, reasonable compensation could range from $350K to $800K depending on your practice area, location, and specific circumstances. The key is documentation. Get salary surveys for your specialty and region, look at compensation data for law firm partners with similar revenue generation, and document your decision-making process. Many tax professionals suggest a revenue-to-compensation ratio of 3:1 to 5:1 as relatively safe, which would put reasonable compensation between $1M-$1.7M in your case, but that varies widely by industry.
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Jamal Wilson
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Mei Lin
•How detailed is the analysis? My situation is pretty nuanced because I have a specialized practice area (patent law) and I'm wondering if this would account for that kind of specificity?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I'm a bit skeptical of these online tools. How does it actually access real court cases? Is there a real person reviewing your situation or is it just an algorithm making wild guesses?
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Jamal Wilson
•The analysis is extremely detailed and would definitely account for specialized practice areas like patent law. It breaks down compensation data by specialty, region, firm size and revenue levels, so you get very targeted comparables. It's not just an algorithm making guesses - it uses actual tax court cases and IRS rulings as its database. When I used it, it showed me 7 different cases involving law firms where the IRS had challenged compensation, including the specific compensation-to-revenue ratios that were accepted or rejected. All the citations were provided so I could look them up myself. My accountant was actually impressed with the documentation it provided.
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Mei Lin
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GalacticGuru
If you're worried about IRS pushback on your reasonable compensation determination, you might want to call them directly to get clarification. Of course, that's easier said than done - I spent 4 hours on hold trying to get through to someone who could actually answer S Corp questions. I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual IRS agent in less than 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They basically hold your place in line and call you when an agent picks up. I was able to ask specific questions about my S Corp compensation situation and get clear guidance directly from the source. The agent walked me through the factors they consider during an audit and what documentation they look for. Way more helpful than trying to guess what's "reasonable" based on internet advice.
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Amara Nnamani
•How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Did they just keep calling or do they have some special access?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I'm extremely skeptical this actually works. The IRS won't even answer their phones half the time, and when they do, the agents rarely give definitive answers on issues like reasonable compensation. They typically just recite the general "facts and circumstances" language from their publications.
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GalacticGuru
•They use an automated system that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until it gets through to an agent. It's the same process you'd go through manually, just automated. When an agent answers, you get a call and are connected immediately. The key is asking the right questions when you get through. I specifically asked what documentation they look for during S Corp compensation audits, not for a ruling on my specific situation. The agent explained they look for salary surveys, documentation of time spent on different activities, and comparable salaries for similar positions. They also mentioned that for professional service firms like law practices, they expect compensation to be a significant portion of profits - definitely more than just the Social Security wage base.
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Liam Fitzgerald
I need to eat my words about being skeptical of Claimyr. After my last comment, I decided to try it myself because I've been wrestling with a similar S Corp compensation issue for my financial advisory firm. Got connected to an IRS business tax specialist in about 15 minutes. She wouldn't give me a specific percentage or number (no surprise there), but she did confirm that for professional service S Corps, they specifically look at the training, experience and billing rate of the owner-employee, and compare that to what similar professionals make in the marketplace. The most helpful part was learning that they pay special attention to firms with high revenue-to-compensation ratios, especially professional service firms where the owner is the primary revenue generator. She specifically mentioned law firms as examples where they expect to see higher compensation relative to distributions. She suggested keeping documentation of comparable salaries for similar positions and responsibilities.
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Giovanni Mancini
Former tax attorney here. Your question touches on a common issue with professional service S corps. In my experience, the $168,600 Social Security wage base is often used as a compensation floor, not a ceiling, especially for profitable professional services businesses. For a law firm generating $5M with you as the only attorney, reasonable compensation would likely need to be significantly higher. I've seen the IRS successfully challenge compensation for attorneys where it was less than 50% of net profits before compensation. Here's a rule of thumb I used with clients: If you're the primary service provider and revenue generator, your salary should reflect what you'd pay someone else to do everything you do. Would you be able to hire an attorney with your expertise to run a $5M practice for $168,600? If not, that's a good indication your compensation isn't reasonable.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•How does this apply if part of the revenue comes from work done by paralegals and legal assistants that I supervise? Does that change the calculation?
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Giovanni Mancini
•That's a good question and does add some nuance to the calculation. If you have support staff generating or supporting portions of the revenue, you can potentially attribute some of that revenue to their work rather than yours. The key is proper documentation. Track time spent supervising versus directly providing legal services. Document how much revenue is directly tied to your personal legal work versus work delegated to staff. This helps build a case for allocating a portion of profits to your role as a business owner (distributions) versus your role as an attorney (wages). Even with this approach though, for a $5M practice, reasonable compensation would still likely be well above the Social Security wage base.
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Dylan Cooper
Can someone explain why this even matters? If it's your S-Corp and all the money flows to you either way, why does the IRS care how you classify it?
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Sofia Morales
•It matters because of employment taxes. S-Corp distributions aren't subject to self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare), but wages are. At 15.3% combined (employer + employee portions), the tax difference can be huge. This is exactly why the IRS scrutinizes S-Corp compensation - they want to make sure business owners aren't avoiding employment taxes by taking artificially low salaries and large distributions. They're particularly focused on professional service businesses like law, accounting, medicine, etc. where the owner's personal services generate most of the income.
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Aaliyah Reed
The reasonable compensation analysis for your situation is complex, but I'd strongly recommend documenting your decision process thoroughly. As others have mentioned, $168,600 is almost certainly too low for a $5M law practice. One approach I've seen work well is to break down your compensation into components: (1) what you'd pay an attorney with your experience to handle the legal work, (2) what you'd pay someone to manage a business of this size, and (3) any premium for specialized expertise or client relationships you bring. You might also consider a gradual approach - if you've been taking minimal salary historically, the IRS may be more understanding of a phased increase to reasonable levels over 2-3 years rather than a sudden jump. This shows good faith effort to comply while managing cash flow. Whatever number you settle on, make sure you can justify it with market data and keep detailed records. The IRS burden is to prove compensation is unreasonable, but you want to make their job as difficult as possible with solid documentation.
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StarSurfer
•This is really helpful advice about the phased approach. I'm curious about the documentation aspect - what kind of market data sources are typically most convincing to the IRS? Are salary surveys from legal publications sufficient, or do they prefer more formal compensation studies? And how detailed do the records need to be regarding the breakdown between legal work vs. business management activities?
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