How do you determine reasonable S Corp compensation for high-earning medical specialists?
I own a dermatology practice set up as an S-Corp that's doing pretty well - grossing about $2.4M yearly. After paying my associate doctor around $340K plus performance bonuses, and taking a $250K salary for myself, I'm netting about $320K in distributions. I'm the sole shareholder. I've been talking with my accountant about potentially adjusting my salary down to reduce payroll taxes, maybe to around the Social Security maximum of $168K. Seems like it would save a decent chunk in FICA taxes without raising any red flags, but I wanted to get some different perspectives. What factors should I be considering when determining "reasonable compensation" for my situation? Is the Social Security wage cap a safe target, or is that asking for trouble with the IRS? I know the IRS looks at this area pretty closely for S-Corps where the owner is a medical professional.
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Yuki Yamamoto
The reasonable compensation requirement for S-Corp owners is definitely something to approach carefully, especially for medical professionals like yourself. The IRS scrutinizes this area closely because they know it's where people try to save on employment taxes. For a dermatologist grossing $2.4M with your profit structure, lowering to just the Social Security maximum would likely be too aggressive and could trigger an audit. The IRS looks at several factors including what similar professionals in your specialty earn in your area, your qualifications/experience, time commitment, and the overall success of the practice. Medical professionals, particularly specialists like dermatologists, typically face higher reasonable compensation requirements because your personal services are the primary value driver of the business. The fact that you're the sole shareholder also means the IRS will be more likely to attribute the business success directly to your services.
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Carmen Ruiz
•Thanks for the detailed response. How much difference would it make though? If I'm at $250k now and dropped to $168k, what kind of savings are we talking about? And what would be a more reasonable target that wouldn't set off alarms?
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Yuki Yamamoto
•The difference between $250K and $168K in salary would save you around $12,500 in Medicare taxes (2.9% on the $82K difference) plus possibly an additional $3,280 in Additional Medicare Tax (0.9%) if your total income puts you in that bracket. A more reasonable compensation level would likely be determined by looking at industry compensation surveys for dermatologists in your area with similar experience and practice size. Given your practice's success, a safer target might be around $200-220K, which could save some taxes while being more defensible to the IRS. Remember though, "reasonable" isn't just about minimizing taxes - it's about what would be appropriate pay for the work you do if you weren't the owner.
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Andre Lefebvre
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Zoe Dimitriou
•How accurate is this tool though? I've tried similar services that gave wildly different numbers. Does it actually hold up if you're audited or is it just a fancy calculator with no real backing?
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QuantumQuest
•Does it also consider state-specific requirements? I'm in California and our state rules seem to be even stricter than federal sometimes. Also wondering if you can update the report yearly as your practice metrics change?
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Andre Lefebvre
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QuantumQuest
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Amara Eze
Just to offer a somewhat different perspective - I'm a dermatologist with a similar practice structure (though smaller gross at about $1.5M), and I took a more conservative approach after discussion with my tax advisor. I actually increased my salary from $210K to $275K specifically to avoid potential issues. Yes, I'm paying more in payroll taxes, but the peace of mind is worth it. We calculated that if I were audited and forced to reclassify distributions as wages retroactively, the penalties and interest would far exceed the tax savings. One important factor is that as a dermatologist, your personal services are the primary value driver. My advisor pointed out that the IRS is particularly attentive to professional service S-Corps where almost all revenue is generated through the shareholder's personal expertise and reputation.
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Ethan Brown
•Interesting approach! What portion of your total compensation (salary plus distributions) does your $275K salary represent? I'm trying to figure out if there's a reasonable percentage that's generally considered safe.
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Amara Eze
•My total compensation breaks down to about $275K salary and $180K in distributions, so my salary represents about 60% of my total compensation. My tax advisor said there's no magic percentage that's automatically "safe," but that the higher the percentage of your total compensation that comes as salary, the less likely you are to face scrutiny. He did mention that for medical specialists, keeping salary at least 50-60% of total compensation is a good starting point, but it really depends on all those factors others have mentioned - including local market rates for your specialty, your experience level, hours worked, and practice complexity. Every situation is unique, which is why documentation of how you arrived at your number is so important.
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Giovanni Ricci
Has anyone here actually been through an S-Corp reasonable compensation audit? I'm curious what that process was like and what documentation they wanted to see. My accountant keeps warning me about it but can't give me specific examples.
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NeonNomad
•I went through one 2 years ago for my orthopedic practice. It was intense. They wanted EVERYTHING - industry salary surveys, time logs showing how many hours I worked, documentation of my education/experience, compensation data for other doctors in my practice, historical salary info, etc. The most helpful thing was having a formal reasonable compensation study we'd done when setting up the practice. The auditor still adjusted my salary up somewhat (from $280K to $320K), but accepted most of our position because we had documentation showing how we arrived at our numbers. Without that study, I suspect they would have reclassified all my distributions.
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Giovanni Ricci
•That's really helpful info, thanks for sharing. Sounds like the key is having documentation ready before any audit happens. I think I need to be more proactive about this.
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