Understanding S Corp Effective Tax Rate vs. W2 Effective Tax Rate - Comparing Options
I'm a physician who recently formed an S Corp for my hospital contract work. All my contracts are 1099 and I run them through my S Corp, though I had the option to be W2 employee instead of 1099 contractor. Now I'm having second thoughts and trying to figure out if this S Corp setup actually makes financial sense versus just being a W2 employee. The S Corp is already formed and I've paid all the formation fees, but I'm questioning my decision. My annual income is around $1.1 million. Business-related expenses run about $32k. I'm working on establishing a defined benefits plan, but for these calculations, I'm assuming pre-tax retirement contributions of $130k, so I'm really looking at taxable income of approximately $938k minus my personal deductions. When I plug my projected income into a W2 tax calculator for my state, it shows an **effective tax rate of 34.76%** after expected deductions (I'll itemize since I'll exceed the standard deduction limit). I'm married, if that matters. So my question is: assuming all other factors are equal, can I expect a lower effective tax rate earning $938k through an S Corp versus as a W2 employee? I'm planning to take a reasonable salary of around $325k with the remainder as distributions. My understanding was that at this income level, the S Corp structure should be advantageous, but I'd love to hear from those knowledgeable about this situation. Thanks!
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Malia Ponder
You're on the right track with your S Corp strategy! The main tax advantage comes from the fact that distributions from an S Corp aren't subject to self-employment taxes (Medicare and Social Security), unlike income earned as a W2 employee or sole proprietor where all income is subject to these taxes. At your income level, the savings can be substantial. With a W2, your entire $1.1M would be subject to Medicare tax (1.45% plus the additional 0.9% for income over $250K for married filing jointly). With the S Corp structure, only your "reasonable salary" portion ($325K) would face these employment taxes, while the distributions (about $613K after expenses and retirement) would avoid them. The key is making sure your salary is "reasonable" for your profession and work performed. The IRS watches this closely since taking too low a salary to maximize distributions can trigger audits. For a physician with your income level, $325K seems defensible, but I'd recommend documenting how you arrived at this figure. Remember that while distributions avoid employment taxes, they're still subject to ordinary income tax rates. So the main savings come from the employment tax difference, not income tax.
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Kyle Wallace
•Thanks for the explanation. What about state taxes? Do distributions get treated differently at the state level too or just at the federal level? I'm in a high-tax state (California) so wondering if the S Corp advantage still holds up.
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Malia Ponder
•For federal taxes, distributions and salary are both taxed as ordinary income - the main difference is that only the salary portion gets hit with employment taxes (Medicare/Social Security). The distributions avoid those payroll taxes. For state taxes, it varies by location. Most states follow the federal treatment of S Corps as pass-through entities, meaning the income flows to your personal return regardless of whether it's salary or distributions. However, some states have special taxes or fees on S Corps, or treat them differently. California, for example, has a 1.5% tax on S Corp income with a minimum $800 annual tax. Check with a local tax professional for your specific state's rules as they can significantly impact your overall tax picture.
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Ryder Ross
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Gianni Serpent
•How does that tool handle the reasonable compensation test? My accountant always warns me about being too aggressive with my salary-to-distribution ratio since the IRS looks at that closely for medical professionals.
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Henry Delgado
•Is it actually worth the cost though? My CPA charges me like $800 for a meeting where we go through all this. How much does this service run? And does it actually give you defensible documentation if you get audited?
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Ryder Ross
•The tool actually has a reasonable compensation analyzer that looks at industry benchmarks for your specific medical specialty and geographic region. It flags if your proposed salary falls below the 25th percentile for your profession, which could increase audit risk. For physicians, it typically suggests keeping salary at least in the 30-40th percentile of industry compensation. Regarding cost, it's significantly less than what you're paying for CPA consultations. The analysis provides downloadable documentation explaining the methodology behind the recommended salary/distribution split, which can be useful support if questioned during an audit. The reports are detailed enough that many users include them with their tax records as preventative documentation.
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Henry Delgado
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Olivia Kay
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Joshua Hellan
•How exactly does this service work? Are they just sitting on hold for you or do they have some special connection to the IRS? Seems suspicious that they can get through when nobody else can.
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Jibriel Kohn
•I don't buy it. The IRS isn't going to give you definitive guidance on what constitutes "reasonable compensation" over the phone. They intentionally keep that vague so they can challenge it if they want to. No way an agent is giving you specific percentages or amounts that are "safe.
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Olivia Kay
•The service uses an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and secures your place in line. Once you're near the front of the queue, you get a call connecting you directly to the agent. There's no special access - they're just using technology to handle the frustrating hold time so you don't have to. The IRS agent didn't give me specific percentages or "safe" amounts - you're right that they don't do that. What they did provide was clear guidance on what documentation they look for when reviewing S Corp reasonable compensation cases. They explained that having market research data for your specialty, geographic area, years of experience, etc. is crucial if your compensation structure is ever questioned. They also clarified which forms are used to report different types of distributions, which was causing me confusion on my returns.
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Jibriel Kohn
I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway since I had S Corp questions that had been lingering for months. Got connected to an IRS representative in about 15 minutes who walked me through exactly how the reasonable compensation standards are applied to medical professionals. While they didn't give me a specific "approved" salary amount (as I correctly noted they wouldn't), they did confirm that my methodology of using MGMA physician compensation survey data as a baseline was appropriate. The agent also alerted me to a potential issue with how I'd been handling health insurance premiums through my S Corp that could have caused problems in an audit. Definitely worth the service fee just for that piece of information alone.
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Edison Estevez
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the additional compliance costs with an S Corp. I'm a physician with a similar income level, and while I do save on employment taxes with the S Corp structure, I have to factor in: 1. $2,500/year for specialized S Corp tax preparation 2. $800/year for payroll service to handle my "employee" salary 3. $500/year for additional state filing fees 4. Time spent on additional bookkeeping requirements Make sure you're factoring these into your calculations when determining if the S Corp makes sense. At your income level ($1.1M), the employment tax savings likely outweigh these costs, but it's not as simple as just comparing the raw tax rates.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•Is there any benefit to running payroll quarterly instead of monthly to reduce those payroll service fees? My accountant suggested this but wasn't sure if it introduces any other complications.
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Edison Estevez
•Running payroll quarterly instead of monthly is absolutely viable and can reduce your administrative costs. There's no IRS requirement for how frequently you must pay yourself as long as you're meeting the "reasonable compensation" standard by the end of the year. The main consideration is that you'll need to make sure your quarterly federal tax deposits are sufficient to cover your anticipated tax liability. If you're running a large quarterly payroll, you may need to adjust your deposit schedule. Most payroll services will handle this calculation for you. The quarterly approach works particularly well for medical professionals with consistent income throughout the year, and it simplified my paperwork considerably without introducing any compliance issues.
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James Johnson
Have you considered the Medicare surtax implications? At your income level, you'll be subject to the additional 0.9% Medicare surtax on earned income above $250k (married). By taking $325k as salary and the rest as distributions, you're minimizing the income subject to this surtax. Also worth noting that all your income (both salary and distributions) will still be subject to the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax for income above $250k married. So while you're saving on the FICA taxes for distributions, you're not escaping all the medicare-related surtaxes completely.
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Sophia Rodriguez
•I thought S Corp distributions weren't subject to the 3.8% NIIT since they're business income, not investment income? My CPA told me only my investment portfolio gets hit with NIIT, not my S Corp distributions.
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StellarSurfer
•You're absolutely correct! S Corp distributions are generally NOT subject to the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) because they're considered ordinary business income from active participation, not passive investment income. The NIIT typically applies to things like dividends, capital gains, rental income (if you're not a real estate professional), and other investment-type income. So for Holly's situation, only the salary portion ($325k) would be subject to Medicare taxes (including the 0.9% surtax on amounts over $250k), while the distributions would avoid both regular Medicare tax AND the NIIT. This makes the S Corp structure even more advantageous than James suggested. The key is that you need to be actively involved in the business generating the income. Since Holly is actively working as a physician generating this income through her contracts, the distributions should qualify as exempt from NIIT.
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TommyKapitz
As someone who went through a similar decision process, I'd strongly recommend sticking with your S Corp setup. At your income level ($1.1M), the employment tax savings alone make it worthwhile. Here's a quick breakdown: With your proposed $325K salary, you'll pay Medicare/Social Security taxes on that amount. The remaining ~$613K in distributions (after your $32K expenses and $130K retirement contributions) will avoid the 15.3% self-employment tax that you'd pay if you were a sole proprietor, or the Medicare taxes you'd face on a W2. The employment tax savings on that $613K distribution should be around $9,400 (1.45% Medicare tax) plus the 0.9% additional Medicare surtax on amounts over $250K, which works out to roughly $12,700 in total Medicare tax savings. That's over $22K annually in tax savings, which easily covers your S Corp compliance costs and then some. Your $325K salary seems reasonable for a physician at your income level - not so low as to trigger IRS scrutiny, but not unnecessarily high either. Just make sure to document how you arrived at that figure using industry compensation data for your specialty and location. The key advantage isn't necessarily a lower overall effective tax rate, but rather avoiding employment taxes on a significant portion of your income while maintaining the same ordinary income tax treatment.
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Zoey Bianchi
•This is exactly the kind of analysis I was looking for! The $22K in annual employment tax savings really puts it into perspective. I'm curious though - have you found that the IRS has become more aggressive about auditing S Corp reasonable compensation in recent years? I keep hearing conflicting stories about whether they're cracking down more on medical professionals specifically. Also, do you know if there are any safe harbors or guidelines for what percentage of total S Corp income should be taken as salary versus distributions?
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