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Aisha Hussain

Should I elect to be taxed as S-Corp for my software engineering LLC?

Hi everyone, I've been running my software engineering business as a single-member LLC for about two years now. I'm starting to wonder if electing to be taxed as an S-Corporation would actually save me money on taxes. From what I understand, a reasonable salary for software engineers in my area is around $150k. This makes me question whether switching to an S-Corp structure is even worth it given the already high market rates for developers like me. I'm trying to work through a couple scenarios: - If my business brings in less than the reasonable salary, say $130k, would it still make sense to do the recommended split and take $65k as salary and the rest as distributions? Or at that point, if I'm just going to take the whole amount as salary anyway, is an S-Corp election pointless? - What about if business picks up and I start making something like $260k? Since the Social Security tax cap is currently around $168k, I wouldn't pay self-employment tax on anything above that threshold anyway, right? So would S-Corp still provide meaningful benefits in that situation? Any insights from those who've been in similar situations would be super appreciated!

The "reasonable salary" requirement is the key factor here. The IRS expects your salary to be comparable to what others in your position would earn in your geographic area. For a software engineer making $130k total, taking only $65k as salary would likely raise red flags with the IRS. That's probably too low for a reasonable software engineering salary in most markets. You'd want your salary to be closer to what you'd pay someone to do your job - which sounds like it might be the full $130k based on what you've said. For your second scenario with $260k income, you're right that Social Security tax phases out (at $168,600 for 2024), but Medicare tax (2.9% for self-employed) continues indefinitely with no cap, plus the additional 0.9% Medicare surtax on earnings over $200k. As an S-Corp, any amount you take as distributions above your reasonable salary would avoid these Medicare taxes. The real benefits kick in when your business consistently earns significantly more than a reasonable salary for your position. Don't forget to factor in the additional costs of running an S-Corp though - payroll processing, potentially higher accounting fees, more complex tax filings, etc.

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Ethan Brown

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What about the hassle factor? I've heard S-Corps are a paperwork nightmare with all the payroll stuff, board meetings, minutes, etc. Is that true or exaggerated? Also, at what income level would you say the tax savings actually outweigh the extra hassle and costs?

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The paperwork requirements are real but manageable with good systems in place. You'll need to run regular payroll (usually quarterly is sufficient), file payroll tax returns, and maintain some corporate formalities. Most people use payroll services which cost around $50-100 monthly. You'll also pay your accountant more for the more complex tax returns. As for the breakeven point, it varies by situation, but generally the benefits become meaningful when your business consistently earns at least $40k-50k more than a reasonable salary. For software engineering where reasonable salaries are high, you might need to be earning $200k+ before seeing significant tax advantages. The tax savings need to exceed the roughly $1,500-3,000 in additional annual costs for payroll and accounting services.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Carmen Ruiz

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That sounds interesting. Did you actually have to set up a real payroll system? And how much extra did you end up spending on accountant fees and all that administrative stuff that comes with S-corps?

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Yuki Yamamoto

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I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I tried it because I needed answers about S-Corp reasonable compensation documentation and couldn't get through to the IRS myself after multiple attempts. Got a callback in about 27 minutes (they estimated 35) and spoke with an IRS representative who was incredibly helpful about my specific situation. They confirmed that for software engineers, they typically expect to see salary at 65-80% of total compensation up to about $200k in business income, which answered my exact question. Would have spent days trying to get this information otherwise. Definitely saving this service for tax season when the hold times get even worse!

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Mei Zhang

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Everyone's talking about the tax advantages, but don't forget about the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction! As an LLC taxed as a pass-through, you get the 20% QBI deduction on your entire profit. With an S-Corp, you only get it on the distribution portion, not your salary. So if you make $180k and take $140k as salary, you're only getting QBI on $40k, vs potentially the full $180k as an LLC. That's a significant difference that could offset some of your self-employment tax savings. This is why the calculation isn't as simple as "S-Corp always saves taxes" - it really depends on your specific numbers and situation.

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Liam McGuire

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Wait, I thought the QBI phased out completely for professional service businesses (including software development) at higher income levels? Isn't there an income threshold where you lose it anyway?

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Mei Zhang

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You're right about the phase-out - for 2024, QBI starts phasing out for single filers at $182,100 and is completely gone by $232,100 (higher for married filing jointly). For professional services like software development, this means the deduction disappears at higher income levels regardless of business structure. So if your total income is approaching or exceeding these thresholds, the QBI factor becomes less relevant in your S-Corp decision. Good catch - that's exactly why these decisions need to be based on your complete tax picture rather than just looking at self-employment tax savings in isolation.

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Amara Eze

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Has anyone considered the state tax implications? I'm in California and found that the S-Corp comes with an $800 minimum franchise tax PLUS a 1.5% tax on net income. My CPA showed me that when factoring in these state-specific costs, the S-Corp advantage was much smaller than I initially calculated. Might be worth checking your state's rules - some states don't recognize S-Corps or treat them differently than the federal government does.

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In Washington state, we have no income tax but there's B&O tax which applies regardless of entity structure. But our LLCs pay an annual $60 filing fee while corps pay $60-$180 depending on revenue. Still way better than CA's $800!

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who made the S-Corp election last year for my web development LLC, I wanted to share some real numbers to help with the decision. I was making around $180k and after consulting with my CPA, we set my reasonable salary at $125k. This saved me about $4,200 in self-employment taxes annually. However, the additional costs were significant - $600/year for payroll service, $1,200 extra in accounting fees, and about 4-5 hours of my time quarterly dealing with payroll filings. The net benefit was still positive at around $2,400/year, but it wasn't the massive savings I initially expected. The sweet spot seems to be when you're consistently earning $200k+ where the tax savings really start to outweigh the hassle and costs. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: you can always revoke the S-Corp election if your income drops or circumstances change, but you have to wait 5 years to elect it again. So make sure you're committed to the income level that makes it worthwhile before making the switch. Also, don't forget about estimated quarterly payments - they become more complex with an S-Corp since you need to account for both payroll taxes and the pass-through income from distributions.

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NebulaNomad

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Thanks for sharing those real numbers! This is exactly the kind of practical insight that's so valuable. The $2,400 net benefit you mentioned after all costs seems pretty modest for the extra complexity involved. I'm curious - how did you and your CPA arrive at the $125k reasonable salary figure? Was that based on local market data, or did you use some specific methodology? I'm trying to figure out how to justify whatever number I choose if I go this route, especially since the IRS seems pretty strict about the "reasonable" requirement. Also, that 5-year restriction on re-electing is something I hadn't considered. Definitely makes this feel like a bigger commitment than I initially thought.

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