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Giovanni Conti

Using S Corp Dividends & Distributions for Tax Avoidance - Is This Strategy Legitimate?

Hey tax folks, I'm trying to understand if what I'm considering is actually legit or if I'm missing something big here. So my business partner and I have an LLC that provides consulting services. We're thinking about electing S Corp status for tax purposes. We each put in $25,000 to start the business, and things are going really well - we're projecting about $375,000 in profits this year. From what I understand, if we pay ourselves "reasonable salaries" of maybe $65,000 each (total $130,000 in payroll), we could potentially take the remaining $245,000 as distributions split between us ($122,500 each). The main appeal is avoiding self-employment taxes on those distributions while potentially qualifying for preferential capital gains tax rates. Since we each have basis from our initial investments, seems like we could really minimize our tax burden compared to taking everything as regular income. Is this strategy legitimate? I've heard some people say the IRS looks closely at "reasonable compensation" for S Corp owners who are also working in the business. If $65K is reasonable for our industry (software development consulting), can we really save all that money on taxes through distributions? Or am I missing something important here? Just trying to figure out the most tax-efficient approach as we grow. Any insights would be super helpful!

This is a common strategy, but you need to be careful about the "reasonable salary" part - that's where the IRS tends to focus. The S Corp structure does legitimately allow you to avoid self-employment taxes on distributions, which is a big advantage. However, the IRS is well aware of this strategy and specifically looks for owners who underreport their salary to maximize distributions. For a consulting business generating $375K in profit, $65K each might be questionable if you're providing the primary services. The IRS would look at what similar professionals in your area with your experience earn in comparable positions. For software development consulting, this could easily be $100K+ depending on your location and experience level. Also remember that distributions aren't exactly "capital gains" - they're generally tax-free to the extent of your basis, then ordinary income after that. The preferential capital gains rates only apply to the actual sale of your S Corp shares, not regular distributions. I'd recommend working with a CPA who specializes in small business taxation to determine a defensible salary amount and proper distribution strategy.

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NeonNova

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Thanks for the info. If we did need to bump our salaries to say $95K each to make them "reasonable," would we still see significant tax savings through this strategy compared to just operating as a partnership LLC? Also, do distributions reduce our basis over time?

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Yes, even with higher reasonable salaries, you'd still likely see tax savings compared to a partnership LLC where all profits would be subject to self-employment tax. At $95K each, you'd pay FICA taxes on those amounts, but distributions would only be subject to income tax, not the additional 15.3% SE tax (though partial phase-out occurs at higher income levels). Distributions themselves don't reduce basis. Your basis actually increases by your share of the S corporation's income and decreases by distributions. So if the S Corp earns $375K and you own 50%, your basis increases by $187.5K, then decreases by whatever distributions you take. It's a common misconception that distributions reduce basis below the original investment amount - they only reduce the increased basis from earnings.

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Just want to add something important that nobody's mentioned yet. If your business is primarily providing personal services (like consulting), the IRS scrutinizes S Corp arrangements MUCH more closely. Look up "personal service corporation" rules. In your case, because the business value comes largely from you and your partner's personal expertise rather than equipment/inventory/employees, the IRS expects a higher percentage of profits to be paid as salary. I've seen cases where the IRS has reclassified ALL distributions as wages for businesses like law firms, medical practices and IT consulting where owners tried to take minimal salaries with large distributions. Document everything about how you determined your salary is "reasonable" - industry surveys, comparable positions, etc. Much safer to err on the side of higher wages, especially in service businesses.

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This is exactly what I was worried about since we're a service business. Do you know how the IRS typically handles cases where they decide salaries were unreasonably low? Do they just reclassify distributions or are there additional penalties?

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If the IRS determines your salary is unreasonably low, they'll typically reclassify some or all of your distributions as wages during an audit. This means paying back payroll taxes (both employer and employee portions) plus interest and possibly penalties that can range from 20-40% of the unpaid tax amount. The IRS can look back several years too, so if you've been doing this for multiple years, the liability compounds quickly. I've seen business owners hit with six-figure tax bills after reclassification. The burden of proof is entirely on you to demonstrate the reasonableness of your compensation. For service businesses, many tax professionals recommend allocating at least 60-70% of profits to salary to avoid scrutiny, though this varies by industry. The safest approach is getting a formal compensation study done for your specific role and region.

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StarSailor

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Something nobody's mentioned - the S Corp strategy works best when there's significant profit ABOVE what would be considered reasonable salary. If you're only making $120k total in the business and reasonable salary is $100k, the hassle of S Corp maintenance probably isn't worth the small tax savings. But at $375k with two owners, you're definitely in the sweet spot where this strategy makes sense, even with higher reasonable salaries than you initially planned. Just budget for proper accounting help - S Corps require more formal accounting, separate payroll processing, and have stricter compliance requirements than LLCs. The additional costs can eat into your savings if you're not prepared for them.

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What would you say is the minimum profit level where the S Corp strategy starts to make sense? I'm making about $150k as a solo consultant and wondering if it's worth the extra hassle.

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Dmitry Popov

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For solo consultants, the general rule of thumb I've seen is that S Corp election becomes worthwhile when you're making at least $60-80k above what would be considered reasonable salary for your role. At $150k, if reasonable salary for your consulting work is around $90-100k in your area, you'd potentially save about $2,000-3,000 annually in self-employment taxes on the remaining $50-60k taken as distributions. But you'll also have additional costs for payroll processing ($1,200-2,400/year), possibly higher accounting fees, and the administrative burden of quarterly payroll filings. The break-even point is usually around $120-140k total profit for most solo service providers. You're right at the threshold where it could make sense, but I'd recommend getting quotes for the additional compliance costs in your area first to see if the math works out.

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