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Quick question - does anyone know if state taxes work the same way for multiple jobs? I'm interning in a different state than my university, so I'll have income from two different states this year.
State taxes get complicated with multiple states! You'll likely need to file a part-year resident return in both states. Each state has different rules, but generally you'll pay taxes to the state where you earned the money. Your home state might give you a credit for taxes paid to the other state to avoid double taxation. Some states have reciprocity agreements too. I'd recommend checking both states' department of revenue websites. Also make sure your W4 for the internship includes the correct state withholding form (different states use different forms).
Thanks for the info! Sounds like I need to look into the specific rules for my states. Definitely more complicated than I thought it would be - maybe I'll check out that tax service someone mentioned earlier to help figure it out.
Great discussion everyone! As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I'd definitely recommend checking the multiple jobs box on your W4 for the internship. Even though the jobs don't overlap timing-wise, both incomes will appear on your 2025 tax return and could push you into a higher bracket. One thing I learned the hard way - don't forget to update your W4 again when you go back to your campus job in the fall! Since your internship will be over by then, you'll want to remove the multiple jobs designation for your fall semester campus work to avoid over-withholding. Also, keep good records of all your pay stubs from both jobs throughout the year. It makes tax filing so much easier when you have everything organized. The slight over-withholding during summer is usually worth avoiding a surprise tax bill in April!
This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about needing to update my W4 again when I go back to campus work in the fall. That's a great point about avoiding over-withholding once the internship income stops. Quick question - when you say "update your W4 again," do you mean I should submit a new W4 to HR removing the multiple jobs checkbox, or is there a way to just modify the existing one? I want to make sure I do this right so I don't end up with too much withheld during fall semester.
For what it's worth, you might want to double check with your HSA provider directly too. Last year my 1099-SA had box 3 blank, but when I called my provider, they said they could send a corrected one with the right box checked. Apparently they had the info but hadn't included it on the form. Might be worth a quick call to see if your provider just made a mistake.
Did having the box checked actually make any difference when you filed? I've heard from my accountant that you still need to fill out Form 8889 regardless, so I'm wondering if getting a corrected form is worth the hassle.
In my situation, it didn't actually make any practical difference for filing. You're right that you still need to complete Form 8889 either way to report how you used the distributions. My tax software asked me directly about how I used the funds regardless of what was on the 1099-SA form. I think having the correct box checked just gave me more peace of mind that everything lined up properly. But honestly, based on my experience, I wouldn't say it's worth delaying your filing to get a corrected form if everything else is ready to go. The important thing is having your receipts for those qualified medical expenses saved.
One more important thing about HSAs that nobody mentioned - those receipts for your qualified medical expenses don't expire! If you paid $3,200 out of pocket but only reimbursed yourself $2,750 from your HSA, you can actually reimburse yourself that remaining $450 from your HSA anytime in the future - even years from now! It's one of the best features of HSAs.
Is there any special form or process needed to document this for future reimbursement? I've been saving medical receipts for years but haven't actually reimbursed myself from my HSA yet because I'm trying to let it grow. I'm worried I'll forget which expenses I've already claimed.
Has anyone used the Weinberg or Zaritzky method for these calculations? I've heard those are more accurate for increasing payment CLATs than the standard IRS approach, especially when the grantor is under 60 and the payment increase rate exceeds 2%.
The Zaritzky method is actually quite good for younger grantors with higher escalation rates. It uses a modified Monte Carlo simulation that better accounts for the correlation between increasing payments and survival probabilities. However, it's not officially recognized by the IRS, so while it might be more mathematically sound, you may face pushback if audited. The standard approach I outlined earlier is safer from a compliance perspective. If you're working with a significant amount of money, it's worth calculating both ways and discussing with your tax advisor which approach makes more sense given your risk tolerance.
For anyone working through this calculation manually, I'd recommend setting up your spreadsheet with separate columns for: (1) Year, (2) Probability of survival to that year, (3) Payment amount for that year, (4) Present value factor using Section 7520 rate, and (5) Present value of expected payment. The key insight is that for each year X, you're calculating: [Survival Probability] Ć [Payment Amount] Ć [1/(1+Section 7520 rate)^X]. Your payment amount grows each year by your chosen escalation rate, so Year 2 payment = Year 1 Ć (1 + escalation rate), Year 3 = Year 1 Ć (1 + escalation rate)^2, etc. I found it helpful to extend the calculation out to at least age 100 for the grantor, even though the present values become tiny in later years. The sum of all these present values gives you the charitable lead interest, and subtracting that from your initial contribution gives you the remainder interest. One tip: double-check your mortality table - make sure you're using the correct table for the valuation date and that you're reading the survival probabilities correctly (some tables show death rates instead).
This is exactly the kind of step-by-step breakdown I was looking for! Thank you for the detailed spreadsheet structure. One quick clarification - when you mention "survival probability to that year," are you referring to the cumulative probability that the grantor survives from the current age to age+X years, or the conditional probability of being alive in year X given they survived to the start of that year? I want to make sure I'm interpreting the mortality tables correctly since this seems like a critical component that could significantly impact the final calculation.
Idk if this helps but I got a letter from Pioneer (another IRS collection agency) last year. Called the IRS directly and found out I qualified for Currently Not Collectible status because of financial hardship. The collection agency never mentioned this was an option even though I told them I couldn't pay. So definitely talk to the IRS directly about ALL your options, not just the ones the collection agency tells you about.
This is really helpful information everyone is sharing! I'm in a similar situation with a late filing penalty for my LLC. One thing I wanted to add - when you call the IRS directly about penalty abatement, make sure you have all your documentation ready. They'll want to know the specific reason for the late filing and any supporting evidence. For health-related issues with your accountant, if you have any documentation of that (like medical records or communication showing the accountant was unavailable), it could strengthen your reasonable cause argument. The IRS is generally pretty understanding about situations beyond your control, especially if you have a good compliance history. Also, when you do call, be prepared to explain why this was a one-time occurrence and what steps you've taken to prevent it from happening again. They like to see that you're being proactive about future compliance.
Great point about having documentation ready! I'm new to dealing with tax issues like this, but it makes sense that the IRS would want to see proof of reasonable cause. For the OP's situation with their accountant's health issues, would something like an email from the accountant explaining the situation work? Or do they need more formal medical documentation? I'm asking because I might face a similar situation in the future and want to know what kind of records to keep. Also, does anyone know if there's a time limit on how long after receiving the penalty notice you can request first-time abatement?
Maya Patel
Protip: Print it out and use different colored highlighters for different codes. Makes it way easier to track whats happening
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢thx for the tip! gonna try this
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Aisha Mahmood
I feel your pain! When I first got mine I literally stared at it for like an hour wondering if it was written in code š The IRS has a master file transcript guide on their website that breaks down what each code means, but honestly it's still pretty technical. Focus on the "Account Transcript" section first - that's where you'll see your refund status. Look for transaction code 846 with a date - that's when your refund was/will be issued!
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