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Gabriel Freeman

Can I deduct real estate commissions when property was converted from personal to rental use?

So I bought a house back in 2020 as my primary residence, but in 2023 I moved out and started renting it to tenants. Now I'm trying to figure out the tax implications and I'm confused about the cost basis and depreciation. I know that when you buy a rental property, you can add closing costs (including real estate agent commissions) to your basis for depreciation purposes. But since I initially bought this as my personal home and only later converted it to a rental, I'm not sure if those original closing costs and commissions can be added to the depreciation basis. Does anyone know if I can include those costs from 2020 in my adjusted basis even though it wasn't a rental when I purchased it? Or am I out of luck because it wasn't originally bought as an investment property? Thanks for any help!

The good news is you CAN include those original closing costs in your basis for depreciation, even though the property wasn't initially purchased as a rental. When you convert a personal residence to rental property, your starting basis for depreciation is the LOWER of: 1) The adjusted basis of the property on the date of conversion (original purchase price + improvements - any depreciation already taken), or 2) The fair market value of the property at the time of conversion This means those closing costs from when you purchased in 2020 (including real estate commissions) become part of your adjusted basis calculation. They're considered part of your acquisition cost, regardless of your original intent for the property. Just make sure you're only depreciating the building portion (not the land value), and remember that depreciation starts when you place the property in service as a rental (2023 in your case), not when you originally purchased it.

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What if the FMV at time of conversion is lower than the original purchase price + closing costs? Should I just use the FMV as the basis? And do I need to get an official appraisal to establish the FMV?

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Yes, if the fair market value at the time of conversion is lower than your adjusted basis, you must use the lower FMV as your basis for depreciation. This is actually a tax rule designed to prevent people from claiming larger depreciation deductions when property values have declined. You don't necessarily need a formal appraisal, though it's certainly helpful documentation if you're ever audited. You can establish FMV through comparable sales in the area, a realtor's comparative market analysis, property tax assessments (with appropriate adjustments), or even online valuation tools (though these are less reliable). Just be sure to document whatever method you use to determine the FMV at the time of conversion.

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I was in a similar situation last year trying to figure out my rental property taxes. I spent HOURS going through IRS publications and still felt lost. Eventually I tried https://taxr.ai to help sort through all my documents and explain what I could deduct. Their system analyzed my closing statements from when I bought my house and my conversion documents, then clearly explained what costs could be included in my basis and what couldn't. The biggest thing I learned was that not only could I include the original real estate commissions, but also certain closing costs like title insurance, legal fees, and recording fees in my adjusted basis. Made a significant difference in my depreciation calculations!

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How long did it take to get an answer from their system? I'm literally filing tomorrow and just realized I might have been calculating my basis wrong for the rental property I converted last year.

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Does it also tell you how to split the value between land and building? That's the part I'm struggling with since you can only depreciate the structure.

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You get answers pretty much instantly after uploading your documents. I just snapped photos of my closing statement and property tax records with my phone and the AI analyzed them right away. It's definitely not too late if you're filing tomorrow. For splitting between land and building, yes it does help with that too. It suggested using the property tax assessment ratio as a reasonable method, but also explained other approaches like using a standard percentage based on your location or getting an appraisal that specifically breaks down land vs. building value. The key is having documentation to support whatever method you choose.

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Just wanted to update - I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing this thread and it was super helpful! I had completely forgotten about some settlement charges that were actually deductible in my basis. Turns out I could include the transfer taxes and title insurance from my original purchase even though I converted to a rental 2 years later. It saved me from underreporting my basis by almost $8,400, which definitely impacts my depreciation deduction. The system even helped me properly allocate between land and structure using my property tax assessment as a guide. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with rental property tax questions!

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If you're still confused after reading all these comments, you might want to just call the IRS directly and ask them. I know it sounds obvious, but they can actually be helpful sometimes. Problem is getting through to them... I wasted 3 hours on hold last month when I had a similar question about my converted rental property. After that nightmare, I found https://claimyr.com which basically holds your place in line with the IRS and then calls you when an agent is about to answer. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c When I finally got through, the agent confirmed that yes, you can include your original closing costs in the basis even when converting later to a rental. Saved me a bunch of guesswork.

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Wait, how does that even work? The IRS would actually allow some third-party service to hold your place in line? Sounds kinda sketchy tbh.

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Does this actually work? I called the IRS three times this month and got disconnected every time after waiting for over an hour. Tax deadline is coming up fast and I NEED to talk to someone about my rental property depreciation.

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It's not sketchy at all - they use the same phone system everyone else does, but they have technology that waits on hold for you. Think of it like having an assistant who sits on hold, then transfers the call to you when someone answers. The IRS doesn't even know you're using a service - you're the one who talks directly to the agent. It absolutely works. I was skeptical too after being disconnected multiple times. That's the worst - spending an hour on hold only to get cut off! With Claimyr, they called me when an agent was ready to talk, and I finally got my questions answered about including original purchase costs in my rental property basis. Took about 45 minutes from when I signed up until I was talking to an actual IRS person, but I wasn't actively waiting on hold that whole time.

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Okay I need to eat my words. After reading about Claimyr here yesterday, I decided to try it because I've been trying to get through to the IRS about this exact depreciation basis issue for weeks. It actually worked! Got a call back this morning and spoke to an agent who explained everything about including original closing costs when converting property. The agent confirmed that real estate commissions from the original purchase CAN be added to your basis even when you convert later. She also explained that if you made any improvements to the property during the time you lived there, those get added to your basis too. But regular repairs while you lived there don't count toward the basis. Honestly worth every penny not to sit on hold for hours.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're keeping super detailed records of when you converted the property! The IRS loves to challenge the timing of when a property was "placed in service" as a rental. Document when you started advertising it for rent, any improvements you made specifically for renting it out, when you signed the lease, etc. My cousin got audited last year specifically on this issue - he had converted his house to a rental but couldn't prove exactly when, and the IRS disallowed several months of depreciation. It's not just about WHAT goes into your basis but WHEN you can start taking the deduction.

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This is a really good point! So for documentation purposes, would things like rental listings, a copy of the lease agreement, and property management contracts be sufficient? My property was vacant for about 2 months between when I moved out and when I found tenants, so I'm not sure exactly when it counts as "placed in service.

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Yes, those documents would be excellent proof. The IRS considers a property "placed in service" when it's ready and available for rent - not necessarily when you actually get a tenant. So if you moved out, did any needed repairs/updates, and then listed it for rent, the property is considered "placed in service" on the date it was first available to rent (when you started advertising it). The key is being able to prove that date with documentation. Save copies of rental listings showing the date posted, emails with potential tenants, records of any improvements you made specifically for rental purposes, and definitely the final lease agreement. If you hired a property manager, their contract and any correspondence about listing the property would also be excellent documentation.

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I converted a property last year and used TurboTax Premier to handle all this. It actually walks you through the whole process of determining your basis when converting from personal to rental. It asked for my original purchase price, closing costs, improvements made during personal use, and then the FMV at conversion. Then calculated everything correctly including the land/building split for depreciation purposes. Just another option if you don't want to DIY all the calculations.

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Did TurboTax automatically know to include the real estate commission from the original purchase? I'm using H&R Block software and it didn't specifically ask about that.

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