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Rental property refinance - how to handle closing costs in cost basis for depreciation on existing rental?

I recently did a cash-out refinance on my rental property and used the cash to purchase 3 additional rental properties. I'm trying to figure out how to properly handle the closing costs from the refinance for tax purposes. From what I understand, the closing costs from the refinance can be added to my cost basis for the property, but I'm already 10 years into the 27.5 year depreciation schedule and I'm struggling to find clear information online about how to properly add these costs to my existing basis. Let me break down my situation with some numbers: - Originally purchased the rental for $200k - Cost basis for depreciation is approximately $110k (land value excluded) - Annual depreciation deduction is about $4k ($110k ÷ 27.5 years) - I've already taken $40k in depreciation over the past 10 years - The cash-out refinance had about $6.5k in closing costs How exactly do I add these $6.5k closing costs to my existing depreciated basis? Do I just add it to the remaining basis and continue depreciating over the remaining 17.5 years? Or do I need to amortize these costs over the life of the new loan (30 years)? I'm also wondering what happens if I sell the property before the loan term is up - like if I sell in 20 years but the loan is for 30 years. Would I lose out on deducting the remaining closing costs? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

The closing costs from a refinance are handled differently than your original purchase costs. First, you need to determine which closing costs are immediately deductible (like mortgage interest points for refinancing) versus those that must be capitalized. For the costs that must be capitalized, you're on the right track - these need to be amortized over the life of the loan (30 years in your case), not added to the depreciable basis of the property. This is because refinancing costs are considered financing expenses, not property improvement costs. You'd take your $6.5k in closing costs and divide by 360 months (30 years), giving you roughly $18 per month or $216 annual deduction. This is separate from your regular depreciation expense. If you sell the property before the loan term ends, you can deduct the remaining unamortized refinancing costs in the year of the sale. So no, you wouldn't lose out on those deductions - you'd get them all at once in the final year.

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Thanks for the clear explanation! So just to confirm, I keep my existing depreciation schedule running exactly as it was, and then I create a separate amortization schedule just for the refinance closing costs over 360 months? And this would be reported differently on my tax forms than the regular depreciation? Also, are there any closing costs from the refinance that CAN be added to the property's basis rather than being amortized over the loan term?

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Your existing depreciation schedule remains unchanged - continue depreciating your original basis over the 27.5 year schedule just as before. The refinance closing costs are indeed tracked separately as loan costs amortized over 360 months. On your Schedule E, these amortized loan costs typically go on the "mortgage interest" line with a notation, or sometimes on the "other expenses" line with a clear description. Some closing costs can potentially be added to your property basis if they're for capital improvements rather than just the refinancing itself. For example, if part of your refinance included funds specifically for a new roof or major renovation, those improvement costs would go to the property's depreciable basis. However, standard refinance costs like appraisal fees, title insurance, recording fees, etc. are all amortized over the loan term.

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How does this even work? The IRS phone lines are completely jammed - I tried calling for 3 weeks straight about my rental depreciation question. Are you saying this service somehow jumps the queue?

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Sounds fishy to be honest. The IRS doesn't give priority to third party services. And even if you do get through, the phone reps often give inconsistent advice about complex issues like rental property basis adjustments. I'd rather just trust my CPA.

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It doesn't jump the queue exactly - they use technology to constantly dial and navigate the IRS phone tree until they get a spot in line, then they transfer you in once they've secured a place. It's basically doing the waiting for you. The IRS agent I spoke with was very knowledgeable about rental property issues and directed me to the specific sections in IRS Publication 527 that addressed my refinancing questions. I was skeptical too, but I was desperate after trying to get through on my own for weeks. For complex issues like this where guidance isn't clear online, sometimes talking directly to the IRS is the only way to get clarity.

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Don't forget about the cash-out portion of your refinance! This is something many landlords miss. If you used the cash-out funds to purchase additional rental properties, that debt is tied to those new properties, not the original one. Make sure you're allocating the interest and loan costs appropriately across all properties for maximum tax efficiency. The property where the loan is secured gets the amortized closing costs, but the interest should be allocated based on where the money actually went.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered. So in my case, where I used the cash-out to buy 3 more rentals, how exactly would I allocate the interest? Would I need to track what percentage of the loan went to each property and then split the interest accordingly?

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You'll need to track and allocate the interest based on the use of the funds. If you borrowed $400,000 and $300,000 went toward buying the three new properties, then 75% of your interest would be allocated across those three properties (divided based on how much you spent on each), while only 25% would remain with the original property. This allocation is important because it ensures your interest deductions match the actual business use of the funds. Keep detailed records showing exactly how much of the cash-out was used for each property purchase. You can create a simple spreadsheet that shows the loan amount, how it was distributed, and then calculates the correct interest allocation percentages. Your tax software may not handle this automatically, so you might need to manually adjust the interest amounts on each Schedule E.

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Slightly different take here - have you considered doing a cost segregation study on your original property? Since you're only 10 years into the 27.5 year schedule, you could potentially identify components that depreciate over 5-7 years and capture accelerated depreciation. This might be more valuable than worrying about how to handle a relatively small amount of closing costs. Just a thought from someone who's been investing in rentals for 25+ years.

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Cost segregation studies can be expensive though. Is it really worth it for a single rental property that's already been depreciated for 10 years? I looked into it and was quoted $4,500 for a study on my duplex.

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Great discussion here! I want to add one important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're properly tracking the basis adjustment when you eventually sell the property. Since you're amortizing the $6.5k closing costs over 30 years separately from your regular depreciation, you'll need to account for both when calculating your depreciation recapture. The IRS will want to recapture both the building depreciation AND any amortized loan costs you've deducted over the years. Keep detailed records showing your original basis, annual depreciation taken, and the separate amortization schedule for refinance costs. This becomes especially important if you do multiple refinances over the years - each one creates its own amortization schedule that needs to be tracked independently. A simple spreadsheet with columns for each type of depreciation/amortization will save you headaches come tax time. Also, since you mentioned this is part of a larger portfolio strategy, consider whether the timing of future sales might allow you to do a 1031 exchange to defer some of these recapture taxes entirely.

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This is such a helpful reminder about the recordkeeping! I'm already feeling overwhelmed trying to track everything properly. Do you have any recommendations for software or spreadsheet templates that can handle multiple amortization schedules? I'm worried I'll mess up the calculations when it comes time to sell, especially since I'm planning to acquire more properties over the next few years and will likely have multiple refinances to track. Also, regarding the 1031 exchange - how does that work when you have multiple properties purchased with cash-out refinance funds? Can you still defer the recapture taxes if the properties were all acquired using leveraged funds from the original property?

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act on your situation. Since you're dealing with multiple rental properties now, you might qualify for the Section 199A pass-through deduction (up to 20% of qualified business income from rental activities). The way you handle these refinance closing costs could affect your QBI calculation. Amortized loan costs reduce your rental income over time, which could impact your deduction eligibility in future years. It's worth running the numbers both ways - especially since you mentioned acquiring 3 additional properties with the cash-out funds. Also, don't overlook the potential for bonus depreciation on any personal property or land improvements that might have been included in those refinance costs. If any portion went toward things like appliances, carpeting, or landscaping on your rentals, those might qualify for immediate expensing under current bonus depreciation rules. Given the complexity of managing multiple properties with cross-leveraged financing, you might want to consider working with a CPA who specializes in real estate investors. The tax strategies available to rental property portfolios can be quite different from single-property owners.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive analysis I was hoping to find! The Section 199A implications are something I hadn't even considered. Since I'm now managing 4 rental properties total (the original plus the 3 new ones), the pass-through deduction could be significant. You make a great point about how the timing of the amortized closing costs could affect my QBI calculations year over year. I'm wondering - would it make sense to accelerate some of these deductions if possible to maximize the 199A benefit while it's still available? Also, regarding bonus depreciation on personal property - some of the refinance proceeds did go toward new appliances and flooring across the properties. I assumed these would just get added to the depreciable basis of each property, but are you saying they could potentially be expensed immediately instead? That could make a huge difference in my tax planning for this year. I think you're absolutely right about needing a CPA who specializes in real estate. The complexity is already overwhelming me and I'm only getting started with building this portfolio!

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