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Do refinancing costs get added to cost basis of my rental property?

I'm trying to figure out how to handle the refinancing costs for my rental property when it comes to calculating the cost basis. From what I've been reading online, it seems like I should be adding these re-fi costs to the cost basis of my rental house. But I'm not 100% clear on which specific costs can be added. I refinanced this property about 2 years ago when rates dropped, and I paid around $4,200 in various fees (loan origination, appraisal, title insurance, etc). The property has been a rental for about 5 years now. Does anyone know exactly which refinancing costs can be added to the cost basis? And are there any that definitely cannot be included? I want to make sure I'm calculating this correctly for when I eventually sell the property. Thanks!

The general rule is that refinancing costs for rental properties are treated differently than those for your primary residence. For rental properties, you generally can add certain refinancing costs to your property's cost basis, but not all of them. Costs that typically can be added to basis include recording fees, abstract fees, survey charges, legal fees, title insurance, and any transfer taxes. However, loan origination fees, mortgage insurance premiums, and points generally must be amortized over the life of the loan rather than added to the basis. The IRS Publication 527 (Residential Rental Property) and Publication 551 (Basis of Assets) cover this in more detail. The key thing to remember is that any costs that are considered "loan costs" are typically amortized, while costs related to the property transfer itself can be added to basis.

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Thanks for the explanation. Does this mean if I've been deducting the loan costs (like points) as expenses on Schedule E, I can't also add them to the basis? That seems like double-dipping. Also, what about the appraisal fee? Where does that fall?

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You're absolutely right about the double-dipping concern. If you've been deducting certain costs as expenses on Schedule E, you cannot also add those same costs to your basis. It has to be one or the other, and the IRS has specific rules about which costs go where. Regarding the appraisal fee, it's typically considered a loan cost and should be amortized over the life of the loan rather than added to basis. This is because the appraisal is primarily for the lender's benefit to establish the property value for loan purposes. However, if an appraisal was done for determining basis for depreciation purposes, that might be handled differently.

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Just to add another perspective, I've been a landlord for 15+ years and have refinanced multiple properties. Here's what I've learned about handling refi costs: For rental properties, you basically have three buckets: 1. Costs added to basis (title fees, recording fees) 2. Costs amortized over loan life (points, origination fees) 3. Costs deducted in the current year (certain legal fees) The mistake I made early on was trying to deduct everything in the year of the refinance. That caught me an audit in 2019 and I had to refile 3 years of returns. Don't make my mistake!

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Can you explain more about the legal fees part? My attorney charged me $750 for the refinance of my rental property. How do I know which category that falls into?

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Legal fees depend on what services the attorney actually provided. If the legal fees were for reviewing the loan terms, preparing documents related to the loan itself, or advising you on the financing, they would typically be amortized over the life of the loan like other financing costs. If the legal fees were for services related to the property title or recording, they could potentially be added to the basis. And if they were for tax or business advice related to your rental activity but not directly tied to acquiring or protecting the property, they might be currently deductible. The best approach is to ask your attorney to itemize their bill to show exactly what services were provided, then you can properly categorize each expense. If they can't provide that breakdown, generally most refinance-related legal fees would be amortized over the loan term.

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Does anyone know if there's a threshold on renovation costs that can be added to basis versus expensed? I refinanced my rental last year and took some cash out to replace the roof ($8,700) and HVAC system ($6,200). Can these be added to the basis or do they need to be depreciated separately?

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Those would generally be considered capital improvements, not part of the refinancing costs. They should be depreciated, but not as part of the loan costs. For residential rental property, improvements like a new roof or HVAC would typically be depreciated over 27.5 years, starting from when they're placed in service. This is separate from how you handle the actual refinancing costs. The fact that you used cash-out funds to pay for them doesn't change how the improvements themselves are treated for tax purposes.

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Thanks for clearing that up! So even though the improvements were funded through the refinance, they're still treated as separate capital improvements on their own depreciation schedule. That makes sense. Would anything change if I had done these improvements immediately after the refinance versus a few months later? I'm guessing the timing doesn't matter as long as it's all within the same tax year?

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Great discussion here! I've been dealing with a similar situation and want to add a few points that might be helpful: 1. **Keep detailed records**: When you refinance, make sure to get an itemized breakdown of all closing costs. This makes it much easier to categorize them correctly later. 2. **Watch out for prepaid items**: Things like prepaid property taxes or insurance aren't actually refinancing costs - they're just advances on future expenses and shouldn't be added to basis or amortized. 3. **Consider the timing**: If you refinanced mid-year, make sure you're handling the amortization correctly. For example, if you paid $1,200 in points on a 30-year loan that closed in July, you'd only deduct $20 that first year (6 months × $40 annual amortization). 4. **State vs federal differences**: Some states have different rules about how refinancing costs are handled, so double-check your state tax requirements too. The IRS really does scrutinize rental property returns more closely, so it's worth getting this right. When in doubt, conservative treatment is usually safer than aggressive deductions.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but have an additional wrinkle - I refinanced my rental property through a cash-out refi and used some of the proceeds to pay off credit card debt that was originally used for property repairs from the previous year. How should I handle the allocation of refinancing costs in this case? Do I need to separate the costs based on the portion that was for the original loan balance versus the cash-out portion? And does it matter that the cash-out was used to pay off debt that was originally for property-related expenses? I paid about $3,800 in total closing costs on a $180K refinance where $135K paid off the existing mortgage and $45K was cash out. My accountant wasn't sure how to advise me on this, so I'm hoping someone here has dealt with a similar situation.

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This is a really complex situation that I've actually seen come up before. Generally, when you do a cash-out refinance on rental property, you need to allocate the closing costs between the portion that refinanced the existing debt versus the cash-out portion. For the $135K that paid off your existing mortgage, those allocated closing costs would follow the normal refinancing rules (some added to basis, some amortized). For the $45K cash-out portion, the allocated closing costs would typically need to be amortized over the loan term since they're essentially treated as loan acquisition costs for new borrowing. The fact that you used the cash-out to pay off property-related credit card debt might help support treating more of the costs as rental-related, but the key is the allocation itself. You'd probably want to allocate based on the dollar amounts: roughly 75% of closing costs ($2,850) for the refinance portion and 25% ($950) for the cash-out portion. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in rental properties, as this type of mixed-use refinancing can have some tricky implications that are highly fact-specific.

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I've been through this exact situation with multiple rental properties over the years. Here's what I've learned from experience and working with my CPA: **The key principle**: Refinancing costs for rental properties are generally treated as loan costs that must be amortized over the life of the loan, NOT added to the property's cost basis. This is different from acquisition costs when you first purchase the property. **Costs that are typically amortized over the loan term:** - Loan origination fees - Points paid to the lender - Mortgage broker fees - Appraisal fees (since they're for the lender's benefit) - Credit report fees **Costs that may be added to basis:** - Recording fees for the deed - Title insurance (sometimes - depends on specifics) - Legal fees for title work **Important note**: Your $4,200 in refinancing costs will likely be mostly amortizable expenses rather than basis additions. For a 30-year loan, you'd deduct about $140 per year ($4,200 ÷ 30 years) on Schedule E. I'd recommend getting a professional review of your specific closing statement, as the treatment can vary based on exactly what each fee was for. The distinction matters significantly for your taxes both now and when you eventually sell the property.

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This is really helpful clarification! I think I've been confusing refinancing costs with acquisition costs this whole time. So if I understand correctly, when I originally bought my rental property 5 years ago, those closing costs (title insurance, recording fees, etc.) went to basis. But when I refinanced 2 years ago, most of those costs should be amortized instead? That makes the math much simpler - I was trying to figure out how to split my $4,200 between different categories, but it sounds like the vast majority should just be amortized at $140/year over the 30-year loan term. Do you happen to know if there's a specific IRS form or worksheet that tracks this amortization? I want to make sure I'm documenting it properly in case of an audit.

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