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Layla Sanders

Can I write off remodel costs for my rental property when I was living there during renovations?

Hi everyone! I'm starting to put together my tax info for this year and could use some guidance on a specific situation. I purchased a house about 15 months ago and initially moved in with my spouse. After living there for about 3 months, we decided we wanted to live in a different neighborhood, but thought the property would make a good rental investment. The place needed significant work before it would be attractive to renters, so we stayed in the house for another 7 months while doing renovations ourselves. We did all the labor but spent quite a bit on materials - new flooring, updated bathroom fixtures, kitchen updates, paint, etc. After completing the renovations, we moved out and successfully rented the property. Now I'm wondering if I can deduct the costs of these renovations on my taxes? I'm thinking probably not since we were living there during the remodel and these seem like capital improvements rather than repairs. But I'm not 100% clear on the rules since the ultimate purpose was to prepare it for rental use. Any tax experts who can clarify what I can and can't write off in this situation? Thanks in advance for any help!

The key distinction here is when the property was "placed in service" as a rental. The IRS is pretty clear that expenses incurred before you started renting it out are treated differently than those incurred after it becomes a rental property. Since you were living in the home while doing the renovations, those costs would be considered capital improvements to your personal residence at the time they were made. These improvements increase your cost basis in the property, which will benefit you when you eventually sell by reducing any potential capital gains. Once you moved out and officially began "marketing" the property for rent (putting up listings, showing it to potential tenants, etc.), that's when it was placed in service as a rental. Only expenses from that point forward would be considered rental expenses that could potentially be deducted on Schedule E. For the improvements you made while living there, keep all receipts and documentation as these will increase your basis in the property, which will be important when you calculate depreciation for your rental and if/when you sell the property.

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Layla Sanders

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Thanks for the explanation! That makes sense about the "placed in service" timing. So just to be clear, none of the material costs for the renovations we did while living there can be deducted as rental expenses, but they do increase our cost basis in the property? What about depreciation calculations? Does the increased basis from these improvements get factored into the amount we can depreciate now that it's a rental?

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Correct, the renovation costs while you were living there can't be deducted as rental expenses, but they do increase your cost basis in the property. For depreciation purposes, your adjusted basis for the rental property would include your original purchase price plus the capital improvements you made before converting it to a rental. So yes, those renovation costs do increase the amount you can depreciate. You'll start depreciating the property (including those improvements) over 27.5 years beginning when you placed it in service as a rental property.

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Kaylee Cook

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Did it actually help identify which specific types of improvements count as repairs vs. capital improvements? I'm converting my condo to a rental and trying to figure out if my bathroom remodel is considered a repair or improvement.

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Lara Woods

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I'm suspicious of these tax tools... How accurate was it compared to what an actual CPA would tell you? I've been burned before by tax software giving me wrong advice about rental properties.

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Kaylee Cook

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It specifically categorizes each expense based on IRS guidelines. For example, it flagged my new water heater as a capital improvement but some plumbing repairs as immediately deductible expenses. The bathroom question depends on what you did - a complete remodel is usually a capital improvement, but fixing a leaky faucet would be a repair. The results were actually verified by their in-house tax professionals who review the AI analysis. I compared the results with what my previous CPA told me and they matched up, but I got the answers in minutes instead of waiting days and paying hundreds in consultation fees.

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Lara Woods

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Ian Armstrong

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Eli Butler

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you did ANY repairs (not improvements) after moving out but before tenants moved in, those ARE deductible in the current year! Repairs maintain your property's condition rather than improving it or adding to its value. Examples include fixing leaks, replacing broken windows, patching holes, painting (in many cases), fixing gutters, etc. I've owned 3 rental properties and this distinction between repairs and improvements has been crucial for tax purposes. Keep meticulous records of everything you spend, when you spend it, and what exactly it was for.

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Wait, so if I paint a rental property before tenants move in, is that a repair or an improvement? What about replacing old carpet with new carpet of similar quality?

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Eli Butler

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Interior painting is generally considered a repair, not an improvement, so it would be immediately deductible if done after the property was "placed in service" as a rental. The key timing is when you started actively marketing the property for rent, not necessarily when tenants actually moved in. Replacing carpet with similar quality carpet is typically considered a repair as well. However, if you upgraded from basic carpet to high-end flooring, that would likely be considered an improvement and would need to be depreciated. It's about whether you're maintaining the property's condition or actually improving/enhancing it.

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Lydia Bailey

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Has anyone used the de minimis safe harbor election for small expenses? For 2025, you can immediately deduct items that cost less than $2,500 each (per invoice) even if they would otherwise be considered improvements. This might help with some of those smaller renovation expenses if they were incurred after the property was placed in service as a rental. You need to have an accounting procedure in place and make an annual election on your tax return.

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Mateo Warren

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I use this all the time for my rentals! It's great for appliances that cost under $2,500. Just make sure each item has its own receipt/invoice.

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Lydia Bailey

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That's a good strategy. The de minimis safe harbor can be really helpful for things like replacement appliances, window AC units, and even some fixture replacements. The key requirement is having the proper documentation with each item clearly listed with its own cost. Items must be individually less than $2,500 - you can't split a $5,000 expense into two $2,500 ones to qualify. And remember you have to make this election every year on your tax return, it doesn't automatically carry forward.

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Marilyn Dixon

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Great discussion everyone! I've been dealing with rental properties for about 5 years now and wanted to add one more important point that might help the original poster. Since you lived in the house for 3 months as your primary residence before deciding to convert it to a rental, you'll want to make sure you're handling the allocation of expenses correctly when you eventually sell the property. The IRS requires you to separate the period of personal use from the rental use period when calculating capital gains. Also, don't forget that once your property was placed in service as a rental, you can start depreciating not just the building itself, but also any capital improvements you made (like those renovations done while living there). The depreciation period is 27.5 years for residential rental property. One tip: create a detailed timeline showing exactly when you moved out, when you started marketing the property, and when the first tenant moved in. This documentation will be invaluable if you ever get audited, as it clearly establishes the "placed in service" date that determines which expenses can be immediately deducted versus capitalized.

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This is really helpful advice about the allocation between personal and rental use periods! I'm new to rental properties and hadn't thought about how the initial personal use period would affect things when I eventually sell. Just to make sure I understand - when you say "allocate expenses correctly," does that mean I need to track what percentage of my ownership was personal use versus rental use? And then when I sell, only the rental portion would be subject to depreciation recapture? Also, regarding that timeline documentation you mentioned - should I be keeping records of things like MLS listings or rental ads to prove when I started marketing it? I want to make sure I have the right paperwork in case the IRS ever questions the placed-in-service date.

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Yuki Sato

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Exactly right on both points! For the allocation, you'll need to calculate the percentage of time the property was used for rental versus personal use. So if you owned it for 60 months total and 57 months were rental use, then 95% of any gain would be subject to rental property rules (including depreciation recapture) and 5% would be treated as personal residence gain. For documentation, yes - keep copies of your MLS listings, Craigslist ads, rental applications, any correspondence with property managers, etc. Also save records showing when you physically moved out (utility transfer dates, change of address forms, etc.). The IRS looks for objective evidence of when you actively began seeking tenants, not just when someone actually moved in. I learned this the hard way during an audit a few years ago. The agent wanted to see a clear paper trail showing the transition from personal residence to rental property. Having that timeline with supporting documents made all the difference in defending my deductions.

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One thing to keep in mind that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're planning to do this kind of conversion again in the future, consider the timing more strategically. The IRS has specific rules about how long you need to live in a property as your primary residence to qualify for the Section 121 exclusion (up to $500K gain tax-free for married couples) when you eventually sell. Since you only lived there for 3 months before converting to rental use, you likely won't qualify for this exclusion. But if you had lived there for at least 2 out of the last 5 years before selling, you could potentially get some significant tax benefits on the sale. For your current situation though, definitely keep all those renovation receipts organized by date and make sure you have clear documentation of when the property transitioned from personal to rental use. Consider setting up a separate folder or digital system just for this property's tax documents - you'll need them for years to come for depreciation calculations and eventually when you sell.

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Julian Paolo

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That's a really important point about the Section 121 exclusion that I hadn't considered! So if I understand correctly, since the original poster only lived there for 3 months before converting to rental, they've essentially given up the opportunity to exclude up to $500K in gains when they eventually sell? That seems like it could be a costly mistake depending on how much the property appreciates over time. Is there any way to potentially convert the property back to a primary residence later to meet that 2-year requirement, or would the IRS consider that tax avoidance? Also, for future reference - if someone is considering converting their primary residence to a rental, would it make sense to wait until they've lived there for the full 2 years first to preserve that tax benefit?

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GalaxyGazer

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You're absolutely right about the Section 121 exclusion! The original poster has essentially forfeited that significant tax benefit by converting after only 3 months of personal use. Technically, you could move back into a rental property to try to meet the 2-year requirement, but the IRS is very strict about this. You'd need to genuinely use it as your primary residence (not just claim you do) and the "2 out of 5 years" test is measured at the time of sale. Plus, there are additional complications when you've claimed depreciation on the property. For future conversions, absolutely wait the full 2 years if possible! The potential tax savings from the Section 121 exclusion usually far outweigh any rental income you'd miss during those extra months. It's one of the most overlooked aspects of the rent-vs-sell decision that can cost people tens of thousands in unnecessary taxes down the road. The key is planning ahead rather than making emotional decisions about moving. I've seen too many people rush into conversions without considering the long-term tax implications.

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This is a really comprehensive discussion! As someone who's been through a similar conversion process, I want to emphasize one practical tip that saved me a lot of headaches: create a detailed spreadsheet right now with three columns - "Expense Description", "Date", "Amount", and "Category" (Personal Use vs Rental Use vs Post-Conversion). Go through all your receipts and categorize everything based on when it was purchased relative to your move-out date and when you started marketing the property. This will make your tax preparation much easier and provide clear documentation if you're ever audited. Also, don't forget about the smaller expenses that add up - things like cleaning supplies, light bulbs, basic maintenance items purchased after you moved out but before tenants moved in. These are often overlooked but can be immediately deductible as repairs/maintenance expenses. One last thing - if you're doing your own taxes, consider getting at least a consultation with a CPA who specializes in rental properties for this first year. The conversion from personal residence to rental property has some unique complexities that are worth getting right from the start. The consultation fee will likely pay for itself in properly maximized deductions and avoided mistakes.

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This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I wish I had thought of this when I converted my property last year. I ended up with a shoebox full of receipts and had to reconstruct everything months later for my tax preparer. One thing I'd add to your spreadsheet suggestion - include a "Notes" column where you can briefly describe what the expense was for. For example, "bathroom sink faucet replacement - repair" vs "kitchen cabinet upgrade - improvement". This context is super helpful when you're trying to remember months later whether something was maintenance or an actual improvement. Also totally agree about the CPA consultation. I thought I could handle it myself with TurboTax but ended up missing several deductions and incorrectly categorizing some expenses. The CPA caught mistakes that more than paid for their fee, plus gave me a template for handling rental property taxes going forward. @Ivanna - have you found any good apps or software for tracking ongoing rental expenses after that initial conversion? I'm looking for something that makes receipt management easier than just throwing everything in a spreadsheet.

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