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Former bookkeeper here. Just to add something important: make sure your name on the W-9 EXACTLY matches your name on your Social Security card. If there's any discrepancy (like using a nickname, middle initial vs. full middle name, etc.), it can cause matching problems when the company issues your 1099-NEC next January. Also, don't forget to check the right tax classification box. For a sole proprietor, check the first box "Individual/sole proprietor or single-member LLC" - unless you've actually formed an LLC.
What about if I'm using my maiden name for business but my married name is on my social security card? Will that cause problems?
That's exactly the kind of situation that causes tax matching problems. You should use your legal name (the one on your Social Security card) on the first line of the W-9 form. If you're using your maiden name as a business name, you would put that on the second line "Business name/disregarded entity name." Ideally, you should consider filing for a proper DBA ("doing business as") with your local government if you're consistently using your maiden name for business purposes. This creates a clear paper trail between your legal name and business name.
quick question - do i need to give clients a new w-9 every year? or just once when we start working together? one client is asking for a new one and im not sure if thats normal.
You typically only need to provide a W-9 once unless your information changes (like a new address, name change, or tax ID change). Some companies have policies requiring annual updates just to ensure they have current information, but it's not an IRS requirement. It's not unusual for a client to request an updated form each year - they're just being thorough with their record-keeping. If nothing has changed in your information, you can just complete a new form with the same details.
There's actually a specific legal precedent related to your situation. In Weisbart v. Commissioner, the tax court ruled that when the IRS publishes information that taxpayers rely on to their detriment, they can sometimes be held to that published guidance even if it was technically incorrect. This falls under what's called "equitable estoppel" - basically saying the IRS can be prevented from taking a position contrary to what they've previously communicated if a taxpayer reasonably relied on that communication. Your screenshots of their website showing the April 18th deadline could be very valuable evidence. Make sure to file your dispute through official channels (Form 843) and specifically mention "equitable estoppel" based on the published deadline information.
Would this actually work though? I always thought the IRS was basically untouchable even when they make mistakes. Like don't they usually have some fine print somewhere that says "our mistakes don't count but yours do"?
It's not a guaranteed win, but there have been successful cases. The key is proving you specifically relied on their published information and took action based on it - which is exactly what happened here with the certified mail on the exact published deadline date. The IRS does have a lot of protection against claims, but they're not completely immune when they publish incorrect information that causes harm. The strongest cases are when you can show you took specific action based on their guidance. Saving screenshots and documenting exactly how you relied on their information is crucial for building this type of case.
This might sound strange, but check if they're using calendar days or business days in their internal systems. I had an issue where the IRS website listed a deadline as May 17, but they were actually counting business days, not calendar days because of a weekend and holiday adjustment. Their system rejected my filing even though I met the published deadline. I had to talk to three different IRS agents before finding one who understood the discrepancy. The whole situation was infuriating, but they eventually corrected it.
Good point! The IRS sometimes shifts deadlines and doesn't clearly communicate whether they're talking about the filing date or processing date. In tax law, there are actually different types of deadlines and "timely filing" rules depending on what section of the code applies.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you qualified as "unmarried" for tax purposes before your actual divorce, you might have been able to file as Head of Household even earlier. According to IRS rules, you're "considered unmarried" if: 1) You file a separate return 2) You paid more than half the cost of keeping up your home 3) Your spouse didn't live in your home during the last 6 months of the year 4) Your home was the main home for your child for more than half the year 5) You can claim the child as a dependent Just throwing this out there because a lot of separated-but-not-divorced people don't realize this option exists!
That's really helpful! So technically even if my divorce wasn't finalized until July, if we were living separately since 2022 and I meet those other criteria, I could potentially file as Head of Household? How would I document this if I get audited?
Yes, exactly! If you were living separately since 2022, and you meet all the other criteria I listed, you could potentially qualify as Head of Household even before the divorce was finalized. For documentation, keep records showing separate residences (lease/mortgage documents, utility bills), proof you paid more than half of household expenses (receipts, bank statements), and documentation showing your children lived with you for more than half the year (school records, medical records, childcare receipts). Also maintain any legal separation paperwork or documentation showing when your spouse moved out.
Don't forget to check if your state has different rules than federal! I got divorced mid-year in 2022 and found out my state requires you to use the same filing status for state that you use for federal, but some states let you file differently. Almost messed this up and had to redo everything.
This is a really good point. I live in Missouri and they required me to use the same filing status for state and federal after my divorce, but I have a friend in Kansas who was able to file differently. Definitely check your specific state rules.
Thanks for confirming this happens in other states too! It's so confusing because tax software doesn't always warn you about this state-specific stuff. I spent hours redoing my returns last year because of this exact issue.
Data point: Filed with TaxAct on Feb 2, accepted same day, direct deposit hit my account Feb 11. So 9 days total for me. Return was pretty simple tho - just W2, mortgage interest and property tax deduction. My sister filed Jan 29 (also direct deposit) and is STILL waiting... turns out she had education credits and earned income credit which apparently triggers more scrutiny and longer processing times.
Thanks for sharing your timeline! Was your refund status showing "approved" for a while before it hit your account, or did it change straight from "received" to "sent"?
It actually showed "approved" for about 3 days before changing to "sent." Once it switched to sent, the money was in my account the next morning. The Where's My Refund tool was pretty accurate in my case.
Filed thru H&R Block on feb 12th, got accepted same day, refund directly deposited feb 22. So exactly 10 days for me. Super straightforward return though, just W2 and student loan interest deduction. One tip - if you're using the IRS2Go app to track your refund, I noticed it updated before the website did. My app showed "sent" status a full day before the website updated with the same info.
Does the time of day matter for when refunds hit accounts? Mine's supposedly coming tomorrow but I'm wondering if it'll be midnight or sometime during business hours.
Lara Woods
Been trading full-time for 4 years now and have used both regular CPAs and trading specialists. Here's my take: If you're doing 100+ trades a year, particularly with options or futures, a trading specialist is usually worth it. Regular CPAs often mess up wash sales, don't understand the nuances of trader tax status qualification, and miss specialized deductions. That said, $3300 as a MINIMUM seems steep. I use a trading tax specialist who charges $2100 flat for my returns which include trading (500+ trades annually), rental property, and W-2 income. They only charge extra if I need specialized consultation on specific tax strategies. I'd keep shopping around. There are reputable trading tax specialists with more transparent pricing models.
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Nathan Kim
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! Can you tell me roughly how many trades you do annually and what kinds of securities? I'm doing about 300-400 trades a year, mostly stocks and some options. Also, did your specialist help you with trader tax status qualification or are you filing as an investor?
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Lara Woods
ā¢I do about 500-600 trades annually, primarily options on indices and individual stocks, with some futures contracts mixed in. My volume increased significantly over the past two years. My specialist was crucial in helping me properly document and qualify for trader tax status. They guided me through maintaining a separate trading business entity, proper record-keeping for establishing trading as my primary business activity, and documentation of my trading hours and strategy. Without their help, I likely wouldn't have met the requirements convincingly enough for the IRS standard.
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Adrian Hughes
Something nobody has mentioned yet - ask if they offer an "audit defense" guarantee with their service. Many trading tax specialists who charge premium rates include this, meaning they'll represent you at no additional cost if you're audited based on returns they prepared. This can be SUPER valuable for traders since trading activity, especially if you're claiming trader tax status, can trigger more scrutiny. When I switched to a trading specialist (I pay about $2800 annually), the peace of mind from knowing they'll handle any audit issues without charging me more was worth the higher upfront cost. Just make sure to get that audit protection in writing and understand exactly what it covers!
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Molly Chambers
ā¢100% this. Got audited 2 years ago specifically about my trading activity and trader tax status qualification. My specialist handled EVERYTHING with the IRS without charging a penny more. My buddy who went with a cheap general CPA ended up paying the CPA another $3k just to handle the audit communication. Audit protection is essential for active traders.
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