


Ask the community...
Another option nobody's mentioned yet - you could apply the excess contribution to a future year if you're planning to contribute less than the max. For example, if you're eligible to contribute to a Roth in 2024 but won't max it out, you could apply the excess from 2022 toward your 2024 contribution limit. You'd still pay the 6% penalty for 2022 and 2023, but it might be easier than dealing with withdrawal or recharacterization if your plan is to keep contributing anyway.
That's an interesting option I hadn't thought about. Would I still need to file anything special for 2022 and 2023 to show that I'm now applying that excess to 2024? Or does just paying the penalty take care of it?
You would need to file Form 5329 for tax years 2022 and 2023 to pay the 6% excise tax for each of those years. Then when you do your 2024 taxes, you would indicate that you're applying prior year excess contributions to your 2024 contribution limit. The important thing is that you don't make a full contribution for 2024 if you're applying the excess from 2022. For example, if the 2024 limit is $7,000 and you're applying $4,630 from 2022, you would only be able to contribute an additional $2,370 for 2024. It's a good option if you're short on cash but still want to maintain your retirement savings.
Another thing to consider - the contribution limits for Roth IRAs increase sometimes. For 2024, the limit is $7,000 for those under 50. Depending on your expected income this year, that might affect your decision about how to handle the excess.
The Roth income limits also increased for 2024. For single filers, the phaseout range is now $146,000-$161,000. So if OP's income is similar to 2022 (around $140k), they might be fully eligible this year without any phaseout.
One thing that really helped me with entering tax data was creating a simple checklist of all my tax documents before I even started. I literally make a spreadsheet with: - Document type (W-2, 1099-INT, 1099-B, etc.) - Who it's from - Amount on the form - Status (entered, pending, questions) This way I can methodically check off each document as I enter it and make notes about any questions. It prevents that panicky feeling of "did I forget something?" when you're about to submit your federal return.
That's smart! Do you just use a regular spreadsheet or is there a template somewhere? Also, how do you handle documents that have multiple numbers on them like investment statements?
I just use a regular Excel or Google Sheets spreadsheet that I created myself. Nothing fancy, just those columns I mentioned. For complex documents like investment statements, I expand my tracking approach. I create sub-rows under the main document listing key figures (dividends, capital gains distributions, etc.) and note the specific form boxes where those numbers should go. Sometimes I even take screenshots of the tax software entry screens and note which box on my document goes to which field in the software. It's a bit more work upfront, but it saves me tons of confusion, especially for documents that have dozens of figures on them.
Has anyone had success using the IRS Free File options? I'm trying to save money but I'm worried the free versions won't handle multiple income sources or that they'll push me to upgrade halfway through...
I used IRS Free File last year with W-2, some freelance income, and a small amount of stocks. It worked fine for me! Just make sure you go through the IRS website (irs.gov/freefile) rather than going directly to the tax company sites. If you go direct, they sometimes don't show the free options.
Just want to add - make sure you're using the most recent version of Form 2848 (Rev. 01-2021). The IRS is rejecting outdated forms. Also, some practical advice from someone who does this regularly for family: create a separate email address specifically for your "friends and family" tax work. This helps maintain clear boundaries between your professional work and personal assistance. I use a dedicated Gmail account for all my family's tax correspondence and transcript access. For the contact info on Form 2848, I use my cell phone and this dedicated email. Makes it super clear when I'm acting in my personal capacity vs. my firm capacity.
Does the IRS actually notice or care if you use your work email vs personal email? I've been using my work email for everything and now I'm worried.
The IRS itself doesn't necessarily care which email you use, but your firm might. Using your work email for personal tax assistance creates potential liability and confusion about who is responsible for the work. If there's ever an issue or dispute, having your work email all over non-firm client communications blurs the line between when you're acting as a firm employee versus as an individual. It's really about professional boundaries and liability protection more than IRS requirements.
Random question - how many family members do you all typically help with taxes? I'm currently doing returns for my parents, 2 siblings, and my in-laws, and it's gotten overwhelming. Considering asking for POA just to save time like the original poster suggested.
I help 8 family members but set strict boundaries - I only do simple returns and set aside specific weekends in March for "tax help days." For anything complicated, I refer them to my colleague. My advice: definitely get the POA. Being able to pull transcripts saves so much time versus playing detective with their incomplete records. Also consider using tax software that allows multiple returns under one account - makes the process much more efficient.
I've dealt with these computation notices before. One important thing to note: even if you agree with their assessment, you might qualify for penalty abatement, especially if this is your first notice or you've had a good compliance history. You can specifically request "First Time Penalty Abatement" if you've had no significant issues with the IRS for the past 3 years. This won't reduce the tax amount or interest, but could save you hundreds in penalties. Just call the IRS (or use one of those services mentioned) and specifically ask about penalty abatement options. The worst they can say is no!
Is this something you have to specifically request? I paid a similar notice last year and no one mentioned anything about penalty abatement to me. I had a perfect tax record before that too.
Yes, you absolutely have to specifically request penalty abatement - the IRS will almost never offer it voluntarily! It's not widely advertised, but it's an official IRS administrative waiver. Many people qualify but never know to ask for it. If you paid penalties within the last 2-3 years and had a clean record before that, you might be able to request a retroactive abatement and get those penalties refunded. You'd need to call the IRS and specifically request "First Time Penalty Abatement" for the tax year in question, explaining that you had a good compliance history before that. It's definitely worth trying!
Whatever you do, DON'T ignore this notice!! My brother thought his CP2000 was a mistake and just tossed it aside. Fast forward 6 months and his bank account got levied. The IRS had gone ahead with their computation, added more penalties for non-response, and then took collection action. Even if you need more time to sort it out, make sure you respond before the deadline (usually 30 days) requesting more time. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable if you communicate with them, but they have zero patience for people who ignore their notices.
This is solid advice. I work in a tax office and we see this all the time. People bring in final collection notices for issues that could have been easily resolved months earlier. By that point, options are much more limited and the amounts owed have usually increased significantly.
Oliver Alexander
One important thing to remember - make sure your LLC has filed Form 8832 if you want it to be treated as a partnership for tax purposes. Otherwise, if you have a multi-member LLC that hasn't elected a different tax classification, the IRS automatically treats it as a partnership. Just mentioning this because it affects how your 1099-NEC is handled.
0 coins
Lara Woods
ā¢Huh? I thought multi-member LLCs were automatically treated as partnerships? We never filed any special forms when we set up our LLC 2 years ago. Does this mean we've been doing everything wrong?
0 coins
Oliver Alexander
ā¢You're actually correct - I should have been clearer. Multi-member LLCs are indeed automatically treated as partnerships by default (unless they elect to be treated as a corporation by filing Form 8832). You haven't been doing anything wrong if you've been treating your multi-member LLC as a partnership without filing Form 8832. I was thinking of single-member LLCs (which are disregarded entities by default) or LLCs wanting to be treated as corporations, which do require that form. Sorry for any confusion!
0 coins
Adrian Hughes
Ok dumb question maybe but where exactly on the 1065 does the 1099-NEC income go? Is it line 1 (gross receipts) or somewhere else? Our business got about $45,000 in 1099-NEC income last year and I want to make sure it goes in the right spot.
0 coins
Molly Chambers
ā¢Not a dumb question! It typically goes on line 1a "Gross receipts or sales" on Form 1065. Though if it's for certain types of services, it could potentially go elsewhere. What kind of business is your partnership in?
0 coins