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Pedro Sawyer

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I'm so glad to see how this thread evolved from initial panic to organized problem-solving! As someone who's been self-employed for about 3 years now, this whole discussion has been incredibly educational and honestly a bit of a wake-up call. @Malik Robinson - your systematic approach with the spreadsheet really resonates with me. It's amazing how 15 terrifying letters turned into just 4 manageable issues once you got organized. That's such a powerful reminder that our initial emotional reaction (totally understandable!) can make problems seem much worse than they actually are. The address variation issue that several people mentioned is mind-blowing to me. In 2024, you'd think the IRS computer system would be smart enough to recognize that "Street" and "St" refer to the same location, but apparently not. It makes me wonder how many people are getting overwhelmed by what are essentially duplicate notices. @Sayid Hassan - thank you for that professional perspective! Knowing that this is actually common for self-employed folks is both reassuring and concerning. It sounds like we need to be extra vigilant about our record-keeping and reporting to avoid triggering these automated cascades. The resources people shared here (taxr.ai for analyzing notices, Claimyr for actually reaching IRS agents) seem like they could be game-changers. I'm definitely bookmarking both for future reference, even though I hope I never need them! This community support has been incredible to witness. Seeing everyone share their experiences and practical solutions turns what feels like an isolating nightmare into something manageable with the right approach and resources.

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Zara Khan

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@Pedro Sawyer This thread really has been amazing to follow! As someone completely new to this community, I m'struck by how supportive everyone has been in helping Malik work through what started as a terrifying situation. Your point about the emotional reaction making problems seem worse resonates so much with me. I think we ve'all been there - that moment when you see official government mail and your brain immediately jumps to worst-case scenarios. Seeing how methodically everyone approached the problem-solving really demonstrates the power of stepping back and getting organized before panicking. The systematic approaches people shared here spreadsheets, (sorting by notice type, consolidated responses seem) like they could apply to so many overwhelming situations beyond just IRS notices. It s'that classic advice about eating "the elephant one bite at a time but" with really practical, specific steps. I m'also fascinated by the technical insights about how the IRS system works or (doesn t'work .)The address variation issue, the automated cascading notices, the fact that different departments don t'always communicate - it helps explain why these situations can spiral into seeming disasters when they re'really just administrative hiccups. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and resources. This is exactly the kind of community knowledge-sharing that makes dealing with stressful bureaucratic situations feel less isolating and more manageable!

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Grace Durand

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! As someone who's been self-employed for about 6 months now, reading through everyone's experiences has been both educational and anxiety-provoking (in a good way - better to be prepared!). What really stands out to me is how the initial terror of receiving multiple IRS notices can be transformed into manageable administrative tasks with the right approach. @Malik Robinson's journey from panic to systematic problem-solving really demonstrates that these situations, while overwhelming, are often more bark than bite once you get organized. The practical tools and strategies shared here are gold: - Creating a spreadsheet to track notice types, tax years, and deadlines - Understanding that address variations can cause duplicate notices - Knowing that consolidated responses can address multiple related notices - Having resources like taxr.ai for notice analysis and Claimyr for reaching IRS agents @Sayid Hassan's professional perspective was particularly reassuring - knowing that this is actually common for self-employed individuals helps normalize what feels like a personal crisis. It also highlights the importance of meticulous record-keeping and understanding how income reporting works to prevent these cascades in the future. As a newer member of the self-employed community, I'm definitely taking notes on prevention strategies. The last thing I want is to find myself staring at a pile of certified mail wondering if my business is about to collapse! Thank you all for turning what could have been just a panic post into a comprehensive guide for handling IRS notice situations. This is exactly why community support is so valuable.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now, and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I received a substantial year-end bonus in late December with what feels like inadequate withholding, and I've been losing sleep over potential penalties. After reading through everyone's experiences, I feel much more confident about my approach. I calculated that I should meet the safe harbor requirements based on my regular paycheck withholding throughout the year, but I think I'm going to follow the middle-ground strategy that several people mentioned - make a partial estimated payment now to reduce the psychological burden of a massive tax bill in April. One question I haven't seen addressed: if I make an estimated payment in January, will that affect my refund timeline when I file in February/March? I typically get my refund pretty quickly when I file early, but I'm wondering if having made an estimated payment complicates the processing somehow. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who's been caught off guard by bonus withholding rates!

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Making an estimated payment shouldn't affect your refund timeline at all - the IRS processes returns based on when they're filed and their complexity, not whether you've made estimated payments during the year. If anything, having made an estimated payment might slightly speed things up since there's less calculation involved on their end. When you file your return, you'll just report the estimated payment amount on the appropriate line (it gets treated like any other tax payment you made during the year), and it reduces the amount you owe or increases your refund accordingly. The IRS systems are set up to handle this routinely. Your plan sounds very sensible - the peace of mind from making a partial payment now is worth a lot, and you'll still benefit from any cash flow advantages of not paying the full amount until April. Plus, if you file early and there are any surprises in your tax calculation, you'll have time to make adjustments before the deadline if needed.

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I've been through this exact scenario twice in my career, and here's what I wish someone had told me the first time: even if you're confident about meeting safe harbor, it's worth double-checking your calculation because bonus withholding can be tricky. The key thing to remember is that your safe harbor calculation should include ALL withholding for the year - not just from regular paychecks. So even though your bonus withholding seems inadequate, add it to your total and compare that against 110% of last year's tax (or 100% if your AGI was under $150k). One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet with my year-to-date withholding from all sources, then comparing it to my prior year tax liability. Once I confirmed I was safe harbor compliant, the stress melted away because I knew penalties weren't a concern. That said, I'd still recommend making at least a partial estimated payment if you can swing it financially. The 8% annual interest rate on unpaid taxes adds up quickly on large amounts, and there's real value in avoiding that April sticker shock. Even paying 50% of your estimated liability now can make filing season much less stressful. The IRS Direct Pay system makes estimated payments painless, and you'll thank yourself in April when your tax bill is manageable rather than overwhelming.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! Creating a spreadsheet to track all withholding sources is brilliant - I've been trying to do the safe harbor calculation in my head and kept second-guessing myself. Your point about the 8% interest rate is what's pushing me toward making at least a partial payment. Even if I'm protected from penalties, that interest adds up fast on a large balance. I think I'll follow your suggestion of paying around 50% now - it strikes the right balance between managing cash flow and avoiding a massive April surprise. Quick question: when you made estimated payments in previous years, did you just estimate the amount or did you try to calculate it more precisely? I'm torn between doing a rough estimate based on my effective tax rate versus trying to project my exact liability.

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Omar Farouk

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in tax prep - you're absolutely on the right track! The Robinhood referral bonuses on your 1099-MISC Box 3 are definitely miscellaneous income that goes on Schedule 1, Line 8z. One thing I always tell clients is to make sure you're not accidentally categorizing this as business income in TurboTax, which would trigger unnecessary self-employment tax. When TurboTax asks about the nature of the income, clearly indicate it's a referral/promotional bonus, not income from business activities. Also, since you mentioned you're filing close to the deadline - don't stress too much! This is actually a pretty straightforward situation once you know where it goes. The $300 will just be added to your other income and taxed at your regular income tax rate. Make sure to keep that 1099-MISC for your records since the IRS already has a copy from Robinhood.

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Lucas Bey

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Thanks for the professional insight! As someone new to dealing with 1099-MISC forms, it's really reassuring to hear from someone who works in tax prep. Your point about making sure not to accidentally trigger self-employment tax is super important - I can see how easy it would be to select the wrong category in TurboTax and end up paying way more than necessary. I'll definitely be extra careful about indicating it's a promotional bonus rather than business income when I enter it. Keeping good records makes sense too since this is all new territory for me.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I went through this exact same situation with my Robinhood referral bonuses last year! The anxiety is totally understandable, but you're actually dealing with one of the more straightforward tax situations. Just to reinforce what others have said - that $300 from your 1099-MISC Box 3 goes on Schedule 1, Line 8z as "Other Income." The key thing that tripped me up initially was making sure TurboTax didn't categorize it as business income. When it asks you questions about the nature of the income, be very clear that it's promotional/referral bonuses, not income from any business activity you're running. One small tip that helped me: when I got to the description field in TurboTax, I wrote "Robinhood referral bonuses" to be crystal clear about what it was. This way if there's ever any question later, both you and the IRS know exactly what this income represents. You'll pay regular income tax on it (at whatever your marginal rate is), but no self-employment tax. For $300, depending on your tax bracket, you're probably looking at owing somewhere between $30-90 in additional federal tax. Not fun, but definitely manageable! Don't stress about the deadline - you've got this!

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Leo McDonald

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm in a similar situation - expecting my first baby in August 2025 and just accepted a new job offer. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much confidence about updating my W4. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone here dealt with having twins or multiples? I know each child counts as a separate dependent, so I assume you'd claim both on your W4 even if they're not born yet. Just want to make sure I understand this correctly since we just found out we're having twins at our last ultrasound! Also really appreciate the tip about keeping track of paystubs after updating the W4. That's definitely something I'll do to make sure everything looks right. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences with this - way more helpful than trying to decode IRS publications!

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CosmicCruiser

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Congratulations on the twins! Yes, you're absolutely right - each baby counts as a separate dependent, so you would claim both on your W4 even before they're born. Each child will qualify you for their own child tax credit (up to $2,000 per child for 2025), so claiming both now will reduce your withholding appropriately. Just be prepared for a more noticeable change in your take-home pay since you'll be accounting for two dependents instead of one! The withholding reduction will be more significant, but that's exactly what should happen since you'll be eligible for double the child tax credits when you file your 2025 return. It's so smart that you're planning ahead like this. Having twins is exciting enough without worrying about tax withholding on top of everything else!

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Ryder Ross

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Congratulations on your upcoming addition to the family! You're asking exactly the right questions. I work in tax preparation and see this situation frequently. You're absolutely correct that you can claim your baby as a dependent on your W4 for 2025 even though they won't be born until June. The key thing to remember is that the IRS uses a "snapshot" approach for dependents - if your child exists at any point during the tax year (even if born on December 31st), they qualify as your dependent for the entire year. This applies to all the tax benefits too, including the Child Tax Credit of up to $2,000. When you fill out your W4, you're essentially telling your employer how to calculate your withholding based on the tax situation you expect to have when you file your return next April. Since you'll definitely have a qualifying child by then, claiming them now is not only allowed but recommended to avoid having too much tax withheld from your paychecks. One tip: keep your hospital records and birth certificate handy for next tax season, as you'll need your child's Social Security Number when you file your 2025 return. But for now, you're good to go with updating that W4!

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Zainab Ahmed

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone who works in tax prep. I feel so much more confident about claiming my baby on the W4 now. One follow-up question - you mentioned keeping hospital records and birth certificate for the SSN when filing next year. Do I need to apply for the baby's Social Security Number right away after birth, or is there a grace period? I want to make sure I have everything ready for tax season and don't run into any delays. Also, really appreciate the tip about this being the "snapshot" approach. That makes it so much easier to understand than trying to figure out if there's some complex proration system!

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If its your first time with a K-1, make sure you look closely at box 20 code V. This shows if you have state filing requirements. Most oil MLPs operate in multiple states so you technically need to file in each one. When I first got an MLP K-1 I completely missed this and got letters from 3 different states the next year. Some partnerships have a composite return option where they file for you in some states (check box 20 code Z) but not all do this.

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Liam Cortez

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Is there a minimum amount before you need to file in those states? I can't imagine filing in 12 states for a small investment would be worth it.

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Yes, most states have de minimis thresholds where you don't need to file if your allocated income is below a certain amount. For example, many states have thresholds around $1,000-$3,000 or less than $100 in tax owed. The exact thresholds vary by state - some like Texas have no income tax so no filing required, while others like California might require filing even for small amounts. Your K-1 should include supplemental information showing your allocated income by state, so you can check each state's requirements. For small Robinhood MLP investments, you'll often find that your allocated income per state falls below these thresholds, which can save you from having to file multiple returns. But definitely check the specific rules for each state shown on your K-1.

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Tami Morgan

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Just to add to what others have said - when you're entering your K-1 into TurboTax, definitely select Partnership/LLC since you have a Form 1065 K-1. But here's something I learned the hard way: make sure you enter ALL the information from the K-1, not just the income amounts. I made the mistake my first year of only entering the obvious income numbers and missed some important deductions like depletion allowances that are common with oil investments. These can actually reduce your taxable income significantly. Also, pay attention to any passive activity loss limitations - if your MLP has losses, you might not be able to deduct them all in the current year. One more tip: save all your K-1 paperwork because you'll need to track your basis adjustments over time. Each year's distributions and income/losses affect your cost basis, which matters when you eventually sell the investment.

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