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I'm in a similar boat - been working commission-only sales at a furniture store for about 3 years and they just announced they're closing next month. Reading through all these responses has been super helpful! I've been putting off applying because I wasn't sure if commission workers even qualified, but it sounds like as long as I have my W-2s (which I do) and my employer was paying unemployment taxes, I should be eligible. One question - did anyone have issues with the varying income affecting their job search requirements? Like, are they expecting me to look for the same type of commission-based sales jobs, or can I apply for hourly positions too while I'm collecting benefits? I'm wondering if I should stick to my industry or if branching out would cause any problems with ESD.
Great question about the job search requirements! From my experience, ESD doesn't restrict you to only looking for commission-based jobs - you can absolutely apply for hourly or salary positions too. In fact, having a mix of different types of job applications might actually strengthen your job search log since it shows you're being proactive and flexible. Just make sure to document everything properly (company names, positions applied for, dates, method of application) and hit that minimum of 3 job search activities per week. Some people even count things like updating your LinkedIn profile or attending virtual job fairs as valid activities. The key is just being able to show you're actively looking for work, regardless of the pay structure. Good luck with your application!
I went through a very similar situation as a commission-only mortgage loan officer when my company went out of business in 2023. The whole process was definitely more involved than I expected, but I did get approved after about 5-6 weeks. A few things that helped me that I haven't seen mentioned yet: - Keep copies of your pay stubs/commission statements that show taxes were withheld (this proves your employer was treating you as a W-2 employee) - If your brokerage used a payroll company, try to get contact info for them since ESD might need to verify the unemployment tax payments directly - Be prepared for them to ask about any 1099 income you might have received on top of your W-2 commission (some real estate agents get referral fees as 1099 income which can complicate things) The income verification took the longest for me, but once they confirmed everything, my weekly benefit amount was actually calculated pretty fairly based on my stronger quarters. Don't let the extra paperwork discourage you - commission workers definitely have rights to unemployment benefits in Washington! Just start gathering your documents now and be patient with the process.
Good luck OP! The Washington ESD website has pretty clear instructions for filing. Don't let the bureaucracy intimidate you - you paid into this system and you deserve the benefits.
And remember, if you need help getting through to ESD later on, that Claimyr option is there. Sometimes having that backup really helps with peace of mind.
I'm also in Washington and was laid off recently. Reading through everyone's responses here really helped clarify things for me too! One thing I'd add is to make sure you have your bank account info ready when you file - they'll ask how you want to receive payments (direct deposit vs. debit card). Direct deposit is usually faster once you start getting benefits. Also, don't be discouraged if the website seems slow or glitchy sometimes - just keep trying. The system can get overloaded but it does work. Good luck with your filing!
I went through something similar last year and want to share what I learned from my experience. Washington ESD does track job refusals through multiple channels - employers can report it (especially larger companies with formal HR processes), and you're required to self-report on your weekly claims. The key thing that helped me was understanding that "suitable work" has specific criteria under Washington law. Early in your claim period, you're generally not required to accept jobs that pay significantly less than your previous wage (I believe it's around 80% initially). Unreasonable commute times are also valid grounds for refusal. When I had to refuse a job offer due to a 90-minute each-way commute plus much lower pay, I documented everything - the job details, my reasons for refusal, and reported it honestly on my weekly claim. Washington ESD reviewed it and determined my refusal was justified. My advice: don't try to hide it, document your legitimate reasons, and be prepared to explain your decision if they ask. The system is actually more reasonable than you might think if you have valid grounds for refusal.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the process and had a successful outcome. The 80% wage threshold is something I hadn't heard a specific number on before - that's really useful information. Your point about documenting everything is something I'm definitely going to do. I'm feeling much more confident now that I understand there are legitimate protections for workers and that Washington ESD actually considers the reasonableness of job offers rather than just expecting us to take anything. The fact that a 90-minute commute was considered unreasonable gives me hope about my own situation with the brutal commute I mentioned. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the whole process!
I'm in the exact same boat right now and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea that the suitable work rules were actually this reasonable or that there were specific wage thresholds early in your claim. I've been losing sleep over potentially having to take any job that comes my way just to keep my benefits. Reading everyone's experiences, especially those who successfully refused jobs with legitimate reasons, has given me so much peace of mind. I'm definitely going to start documenting everything about any job offers I receive and make sure I understand my rights before making any decisions. It's also reassuring to know that being honest and upfront is the best approach rather than trying to hide anything. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences - this community is such a valuable resource!
I'm so glad this thread helped ease your anxiety! I was in the same position a few months ago - absolutely terrified that I'd have to accept the first job offer that came my way regardless of how awful it was. What really helped me was calling Washington ESD directly (though it took forever to get through) and asking specific questions about my situation. They were actually pretty helpful once I finally reached someone. The key thing I learned is that they really do want people to find sustainable employment, not just any job. A job that pays way less or has an impossible commute isn't sustainable and they understand that. Just make sure you have clear, documented reasons for any refusal and you should be fine!
Just want to add another perspective - I'm a substitute teacher in Washington and I was actually able to collect unemployment last summer because subs typically don't have that "reasonable assurance" of work. So the rules definitely vary depending on your exact employment situation. Since you're switching from teaching to librarian, that role change might work in your favor. The key is that it's a different job classification with different duties, even though it's in the same district. I'd definitely encourage you to apply - worst case they say no, but you might be surprised!
This is really valuable insight about substitutes having different rules! I'm curious - when you applied as a sub, did you have to provide any special documentation to prove you didn't have reasonable assurance? I'm wondering if I should gather paperwork showing how different the librarian position requirements are from my current teaching role (different certification requirements, completely different job duties, etc.) to strengthen my case with Washington ESD.
That's such a relief to hear from someone who actually got approved! I've been so stressed about the summer income gap. Your point about the job classification change is exactly what I was hoping - librarian really is a completely different role with different certification requirements and daily responsibilities. I'm definitely going to apply tomorrow and make sure to emphasize how substantially different the positions are. Did Washington ESD ask for any specific documentation about your substitute status, or was it pretty clear from your employment records?
I'm also a Washington teacher dealing with the same summer income issues! Reading through all these responses, it sounds like your situation switching from English teacher to librarian might actually work in your favor. The fact that it's a different job classification with completely different certification requirements and daily duties could be the key to overcoming the "reasonable assurance" rule. I'd definitely recommend applying ASAP and really emphasizing how substantially different the librarian position is from classroom teaching. Even if you're in the same district, the roles are totally different - different skills, different responsibilities, different certifications needed. Worth a shot, and like others said, worst case they deny it but at least you'll know for sure. Keep us updated on what Washington ESD says!
Miguel Castro
Final piece of advice - if you run into any issues with your claim or need to speak with someone at Washington ESD, don't give up on trying to reach them. The phone system is frustrating but persistence pays off. Or use one of those callback services like someone mentioned earlier if you can't get through on your own.
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CyberNinja
•Thanks to everyone who replied! I feel much more confident about filing now. Going to submit my application this afternoon.
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Emma Davis
Just to reinforce what everyone else has said - there's absolutely no downside to filing immediately after losing your job. I made the mistake of thinking I needed to wait for some kind of "official" termination paperwork from my employer and it cost me. Washington ESD doesn't care about your employer's internal processes - they just need to know you're unemployed and when it started. The application itself takes maybe 30-45 minutes if you have your basic employment info ready. Don't overthink it - just get it submitted as soon as you can!
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