Can I get ESD unemployment after using up all my Paid Family Leave?
I just finished 4 months of Paid Family Leave (April-August) that I took to care for my newborn. My company just announced layoffs and I'm on the list to be let go next month. I'm worried because I used all my PFL hours and I'm not sure if that affects my eligibility for unemployment benefits. Does anyone know if I can still qualify for ESD unemployment even though I already used all my Paid Family Leave time this year? I worked at this company for 3 years before taking PFL if that matters. Really anxious about this since we just had a baby and now I'm losing my job.
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Melissa Lin
dont worry too much, PFL and unemployment r completely different programs even tho they both come from esd. as long as u worked enough hours in ur base year and r being laid off (not quitting or fired for misconduct) u should qualify. the fact u were on pfl shouldnt matter
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Effie Alexander
•Thank you so much! That's a relief to hear. Do you know if the hours I worked before taking PFL will count toward my unemployment eligibility? I'm just worried about the timing of everything.
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Lydia Santiago
The previous commenter is correct that Paid Family Leave and Unemployment Insurance are separate programs, but there's a bit more to understand about how they interact. Your UI eligibility is based on your "base year" - typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. You need at least 680 hours of work in that period. The good news is that hours you worked before taking PFL absolutely count toward your UI eligibility. Additionally, if you received Paid Family Leave benefits, those weeks you were on PFL can actually count as "hours worked" for UI eligibility purposes. So in your situation, with 3 years at the company before PFL and now facing a layoff (not quitting or being fired for misconduct), you should definitely qualify for unemployment benefits.
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Effie Alexander
•Wow, that's great to hear! I didn't realize the PFL weeks could count as "hours worked" for UI purposes. That definitely helps my situation. I appreciate the detailed explanation.
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Romeo Quest
I went through something similar last year and had no problems getting unemployment after using paid family leave! The thing is that PFL is through the Paid Leave program and unemployment is through the UI program - they're separate even though both are handled by ESD. As long as you're not being fired for misconduct you should be fine. Good luck with the new baby!!
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Effie Alexander
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That definitely makes me feel better knowing someone else has been through this successfully. The new baby is wonderful but the timing of this layoff couldn't be worse!
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Val Rossi
I had a NIGHTMARE trying to deal with ESD after my maternity leave last year. They kept saying I hadn't worked enough hours in my base year because they weren't counting my time properly!!! I would recommend calling ESD directly to make sure everything is on track BEFORE you file your claim. Good luck getting through though - I spent WEEKS trying to talk to someone. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an ESD agent in under 2 hours when I'd been trying for days on my own. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Totally worth it because the agent was able to fix my claim and I started getting payments right away instead of waiting in limbo.
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Eve Freeman
•is that service legit? sounds kinda sketchy to me like how would they get you thru faster than just calling yourself??
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Val Rossi
@profile8 Yes it's legitimate! They basically use technology to continuously redial ESD for you until they get through, then they call you and connect you with the ESD agent. I was skeptical too but it actually worked when I'd been trying to get through for over a week on my own.
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Effie Alexander
•Thanks for sharing this. If I run into problems getting through to ESD I might try that service. Right now I'm just trying to make sure I understand all the eligibility rules before I apply.
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Clarissa Flair
JUST BE CAREFUL about the timing when you apply! Don't apply for unemployment until AFTER your last day of work or they can deny your claim. I made that mistake and had to appeal which was a huge headache. Also make sure you have all your employment info from the past 18 months ready when you apply. And remember you HAVE to do the job search requirements every week - 3 job search activities weekly - or they'll deny benefits even if you were initially approved!
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Effie Alexander
•That's really helpful advice - thank you! I definitely won't apply until after my last official day. And I'll make sure to keep up with the job search activities once I start claiming.
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Caden Turner
I'm an HR professional who handles layoffs, and I can confirm that Paid Family Leave and Unemployment Insurance are entirely separate benefit systems, even though both are administered by ESD. One important thing to understand: when you file for unemployment, ESD will contact your employer to verify the reason for separation. Make sure the layoff is documented properly to avoid any delays. Also, be prepared that your first unemployment payment may take 2-3 weeks to process after you file, so plan your finances accordingly. Your benefit amount will be based on your highest-earning quarters during your base year (which should include your pre-PFL employment). Best of luck with your job search.
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Effie Alexander
•Thank you for the professional insight! I'll double-check with HR to make sure they've documented everything properly. And thanks for the heads-up about the payment timing - that's really important for me to know for budgeting.
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Eve Freeman
sorry about ur layoff but congrats on the baby! my sister just had one too! one thing nobody mentioned - make sure ur resume is updated ASAP cuz the job search requirements start right away! u have to do 3 activities every week and keep a log. if u dont they can deny ur benefits even if u were approved!
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Effie Alexander
•Thank you! Yes, I need to update my resume ASAP. I'm actually a bit worried about finding childcare while I job search - that's going to be another challenge.
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Lydia Santiago
Quick update on the job search requirements that were mentioned: While you do need to complete 3 job search activities per week, know that these activities can include more than just applying for jobs. They can also include: - Attending job fairs - Creating profiles on employment websites - Meeting with career counselors - Taking skills assessments or training courses - Networking events Also, WorkSource Washington offers free resources to help with your job search and they count toward your required activities. Regarding childcare: Washington has childcare subsidies available for job seekers. You can check eligibility through the Department of Children, Youth, and Families website.
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Effie Alexander
•This is incredibly helpful information! I didn't realize there were so many different activities that could count toward the job search requirements. And I'll definitely look into the childcare subsidies - that could be a game-changer. Thank you so much!
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