Can I switch from EDD unemployment to paid family leave when baby arrives?
I'm in a bit of a confusing situation with my benefits. Got laid off from my tech support job in February after only working there for 8 months. Currently collecting regular UI benefits and doing all my job search requirements. My wife is due to deliver our first child in about 2 weeks and I'm wondering if I can transition from unemployment to CA Paid Family Leave once the baby arrives? I'm concerned because: 1) I don't have a current employer to return to, 2) I don't want to stop my job search but also need to help my wife recover and bond with the baby, and 3) I'm not sure if my unemployment will run out before I can find a new position. Does anyone know if it's even possible to go from UI to PFL? Or am I completely out of luck since I'm not currently employed? Any advice appreciated!
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Selena Bautista
I think ur out of luck. Pretty sure u cant go from UI to PFL. U need to actually have a job to take leave from, right? Doesnt make sense otherwise.
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Tasia Synder
•That's what I was afraid of. Terrible timing with the layoff and the baby coming so close together. I was hoping there might be some exception since I've been paying into the system for years.
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Mohamed Anderson
This is actually one of the most common misconceptions about PFL in California. You CAN qualify for PFL even while on unemployment, but there are specific requirements and it works differently than if you were employed. Here's what you need to know: 1. You must have earned enough wages during your base period to establish a valid claim 2. You cannot collect UI and PFL for the same period (they'll stop your UI when PFL begins) 3. You'll need to complete the DE 2501F form for PFL 4. You'll need medical documentation of your child's birth The major difference is that with PFL while unemployed, you're not guaranteed job protection since you don't have a job to return to. But the benefit itself is available to you if you qualify based on your past wages.
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Ellie Perry
•wait so can he collect both unemployment AND family leave??? does that mean double money???
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Mohamed Anderson
No, you cannot collect both at the same time. When you start collecting PFL, your UI benefits will be paused. After your PFL period ends (up to 8 weeks), you can resume your UI claim if you still have a balance and available benefit weeks remaining.
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Tasia Synder
•This is really helpful information! So if I understand correctly, I could pause my UI claim when the baby comes, switch to PFL for bonding time, then return to UI afterward if I'm still job searching? Would this extend the total time my UI is available, or would the end date remain the same?
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Landon Morgan
I went through something similar last year. You're right about being able to switch from UI to PFL and then back, but your benefit year end date for UI stays the same. So if your UI claim expires while you're on PFL, you won't be able to go back to that UI claim. What I did was calculate whether it made more financial sense to take PFL or stay on UI (the weekly benefit amounts can be different). In my case, PFL paid more, so I switched. One important thing - make sure you submit your PFL application BEFORE your UI claim expires! Also, you'll need to upload documentation of your child's birth when you apply for PFL. I recommend having that ready to go so there's no delay in processing.
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Tasia Synder
•Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have any issues switching back to UI after PFL ended? I'm worried about delays in processing that might leave us without income during the transition periods.
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Landon Morgan
There was about a 10-day gap when I switched back to UI where I didn't receive any payments. The system isn't great at handling transitions. I had to call and explain that I was returning from PFL to restart my UI payments. That's actually where I ran into the biggest headache - getting through to an EDD representative. Spent days trying to get through on the phone lines.
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Teresa Boyd
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Lourdes Fox
i had a HORRIBLE experience with this exact situation and now im 15k in debt to EDD because nobody told me i cant collect both!!!!!! be VERY CAREFUL and GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING from them!!!! they will come after u years later saying u were overpaid even when its THEIR MISTAKE
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Mohamed Anderson
•I'm sorry you went through that. This is why it's so important to understand that you CANNOT collect both UI and PFL for the same time period. They're mutually exclusive programs. What likely happened in your case is there was an overlap in the benefits periods, which the system eventually detected as an overpayment.
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Bruno Simmons
Have you already reported your wife's pregnancy during your UI certifications? Remember that when you certify every two weeks, EDD asks if there's any reason you couldn't accept full-time work. Once the baby arrives, if you're needed at home and can't accept work, you technically wouldn't be eligible for UI at that point. That's exactly when PFL would make sense. Just make sure to be honest on your UI certifications about your availability for work once the baby arrives, or you could face overpayment issues later.
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Tasia Synder
•Good point. I've been answering that I'm available for work because I am right now, but I'll need to update that once the baby arrives. I definitely don't want to risk any overpayment issues down the road. The systems make it so complicated to navigate all these different programs.
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Aileen Rodriguez
one thing nobody mentioned is that PFL pays like 60% or 70% of your wages not the full amount like regular unemployment. so u might get less money. its dumb but thats how it works.
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Landon Morgan
•That's correct. PFL pays approximately 60-70% of your wages (depending on your income level), while UI has its own calculation method and weekly maximum. This is why I suggested the original poster compare the benefit amounts before deciding. For some people UI pays more, for others PFL pays more.
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Tasia Synder
Thank you all for the detailed information! I'm going to call EDD tomorrow to confirm all of this and make sure I understand the process correctly. Sounds like I need to: 1. Continue UI until the baby arrives 2. Apply for PFL once the baby is born using the DE 2501F form 3. Be prepared with birth documentation 4. Understand that my UI claim timeline doesn't extend 5. Plan for a possible gap when transitioning back to UI after PFL ends It's definitely more complicated than I expected, but I'm grateful to know that the option exists.
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Teresa Boyd
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