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Can Social Security direct deposit payments go to foreign bank accounts?

Hi everyone, I'm planning to spend several months each year in Portugal starting next year (my wife has family there). I currently get my SS retirement benefits via direct deposit to my Chase account. Does anyone know if I can switch my direct deposit to a Portuguese bank once I open an account there? Or do I have to keep a US bank account? I've tried calling SSA three times but keep getting disconnected after waiting 45+ minutes! Any experience with receiving benefits while living abroad would be really helpful. Thanks!

SSA does NOT allow direct deposit to foreign banks in most countries. Portugal is not one of the countries with direct deposit agreements. You have basically two options: keep your US bank account and withdraw money abroad (watch for fees), or use the Direct Express debit card program. I've been living in Spain part-time for 5 years and maintain my US account - it's much simpler.

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Thanks for the quick response! I hadn't heard about the Direct Express card. Does that work well internationally? Are there big fees for ATM withdrawals in Europe?

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my sister lives in mexico 6 months a year and she just keeps her US bank open. i think thats what most people do

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That's what I do too. I spend winters in Mexico and summers in US. The ATM fees add up though!!! Sometimes $5-7 per withdrawal plus exchange rates that aren't great. But still easier than dealing with SSA changing anything!!

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There's actually a list of countries where SSA can send direct deposits. It's called the International Direct Deposit (IDD) program. But Portugal isn't on it yet. Here's the current list: Canada, Germany, Australia, UK, Ireland, Panama, Costa Rica and a few others. The only EU countries are Germany, Ireland and UK (though UK isn't EU anymore). You can see the full list on SSA.gov under "International Direct Deposit Countries." Most expats maintain a US bank account and then either transfer money periodically or use ATMs. Just be aware that you need to report to SSA that you're outside the US for more than 30 days - it's required even though it doesn't affect your retirement benefits.

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Thank you for the detailed information! I didn't realize I had to report being outside the US. Is there a specific form for that? Will it affect my Medicare coverage at all?

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I've been living in France for 3 years now and I just kept my American bank account. It's annoying but simplest. BUT BE CAREFUL about your Medicare!!! If you're outside the US for too long and have Medicare, you're still paying for it but CAN'T USE IT outside the US. Some people suspend their Medicare while living abroad to save money, but then you pay penalties when you restart it unless you have other valid coverage.

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This is so confusing. So we pay for Medicare even when we cant use it??? That doesnt seem fair at all!

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When I tried calling SSA about moving to Philippines (where my wife is from), I got disconnected 4 TIMES!!!! So frustrating!! 😡

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Try using Claimyr.com to get through to an SSA agent. It basically waits on hold for you and calls you back when an agent is on the line. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It worked for me when I needed to update my address after moving. Saved me hours of frustration.

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CAREFUL ABOUT TAXES TOO! Just because you're living overseas doesn't mean you escape US taxes. I learned this the hard way. You still have to file US taxes as a citizen PLUS you might have to pay Portuguese taxes too depending on how long you stay there. There are tax treaties but it gets complicated fast.

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Oh that's a good point I hadn't considered. I'll have to look into the tax treaty between US and Portugal. Might need to talk to a tax professional who specializes in expat issues.

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My uncle moved to Costa Rica and he has his SS check sent to his US bank and then he just transfers money when he needs it. He says the fees aren't too bad with certain banks.

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That's the most common approach. Online banks like Schwab actually refund all ATM fees worldwide, which makes them popular with retirees living abroad. Worth looking into if you're planning extended time overseas.

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i heard somwhere that some countries don't let americans get SS benefits? is that true?

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There are restrictions for certain countries. U.S. citizens can generally receive retirement benefits anywhere, but there are restrictions for some countries like Cuba, North Korea, and a few others. Also, non-US citizens may have different rules. But Portugal is completely fine for US citizens receiving Social Security retirement benefits.

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you're keeping your US bank, make sure it's one that doesn't require a US mailing address or regular US presence. Some banks have closed accounts when they discover customers live overseas permanently. Chase is usually OK with part-time overseas living, but for full-time expats, banks like Schwab, Capital One, and some credit unions are better options.

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That's really helpful, thank you! We're still keeping our house in Arizona so we'll have a US address, but I'll double check with Chase about their policies just to be safe.

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I've been researching this exact situation for my own retirement plans! One thing I'd add is that you should also check with your Portuguese bank about their policies for receiving regular international transfers. Some European banks have specific requirements or fees for recurring transfers from US accounts. Also, consider setting up a Wise (formerly TransferWise) account - many expats use it for better exchange rates when moving money between countries. The fees are usually much lower than traditional bank wire transfers, and you can set up automatic transfers from your US account. Just make sure to keep detailed records of all international transfers for tax purposes!

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If you don't have an answer yet, ask here: fbu.dublin@ssa.gov

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