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Can I earn $4960/month before FRA when turning 66? Social Security earnings limit confusion

I'm completely confused about the Social Security earnings limit as I approach Full Retirement Age (FRA). I started collecting SS in September 2023 (at 63) but recently returned to my old company as an independent contractor. My FRA is March 2026, and I'll be turning 66 this December.Here's where I'm confused: I called the SSA yesterday and spoke with an agent (Thomas in the Dallas office) who told me that since I'll be 66 in December, I can earn up to $4,960 per month in December and January because I'm within a year of my FRA. But everything I've read suggests the higher earnings limit ($74,000/year) doesn't kick in until January 2026 - the calendar year I reach my FRA.I've earned about $7,200 so far this year from a part-time W2 position, and I'm worried about exceeding limits with this new 1099 work. Does anyone know if what Thomas told me is correct? Can I really earn $4,960/month once I turn 66, even though my FRA isn't until March 2026?

I definitely will! I'm planning to call tomorrow morning right when they open. Based on everyone's feedback, I'm pretty confident the first agent was mistaken, but I'll update with what I find out.

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I've been through a similar situation and want to emphasize something important that others have mentioned - even though you received incorrect information from an SSA agent, you're still responsible for any overpayments. However, don't let this discourage you from appealing if you do exceed the limit based on their advice. When you call back, ask to speak with a supervisor and document EVERYTHING - get the agent's name, ID number, time of call, and ask them to note your file that you're calling to clarify conflicting information you received. If possible, ask them to send you written confirmation of the correct earnings limits. Also, since you're doing 1099 work now, consider spreading your income strategically. You could potentially defer some payments until 2026 when the higher limit applies (January-March), or structure your contracts to minimize 2025 earnings. Just make sure any deferral strategies don't create tax complications. The earnings limit rules are confusing enough without getting wrong information from SSA agents. Stay strong and keep advocating for yourself!

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When to apply for Social Security at 62 with mid-year birthday and already hitting earnings limit?

Just figuring out my retirement timeline and confused about when I need to apply for SS benefits. I want to start receiving my Social Security checks as soon as I turn 62 this September. How far in advance should I submit my application? I don't want to miss a single payment! Also, I'm still working and will have already earned above the annual earnings limit ($22,320 I think?) by my birthday. Since I'll hit the max income before I even start collecting benefits, does the earnings limit still apply to me for that first partial year? Or does the limit work differently in the first year? My HR department wasn't sure, and the SSA website is confusing me even more.

One more tip: When you apply, SSA will ask if you want benefits to start at age 62 or if you want to specify a later month. If you select age 62, they'll automatically start your benefits at the earliest possible month - which is actually the month AFTER you turn 62. Benefits are paid in arrears, so your October payment covers September benefits. If you apply 3-4 months before your birthday as recommended, everything should process in time for you to receive your first payment in October. The online application is generally the fastest method.

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Just want to add that you should also consider setting up a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you haven't already. This will let you track your application status online and avoid some of those long phone waits people mentioned. You can also use it to get an estimate of your monthly benefit amount at different claiming ages to help with your decision. Also, since you mentioned your HR department wasn't sure about the earnings rules, you might want to ask them about any employer benefits that could be affected by starting Social Security early - things like health insurance continuation or pension timing. Some employers have coordination rules that could impact your overall retirement income strategy.

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Can I claim my late UK husband's Social Security benefits at 60 or must I wait until 67?

Hi everyone, I'm really confused about survivor benefits for international situations. My husband passed away last year and he was British. I'm now living in the US as a permanent resident but I think I might be eligible for some UK benefits based on his work history there. I'm currently 60 years old and was hoping to claim now, but when I emailed the UK office, they said something about the age being moved to 67? Does anyone know if there's a special phone number or office I should contact about international survivor benefits? Do I need to deal with US Social Security or the UK version? So confused about all this!

hey did ur husband ever work in the US at all? my uncle worked in both canada and US and my aunt got benefits from both places when he died!

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He visited for work sometimes but was never employed by a US company or paid US taxes. It was always through his UK employer. That probably makes things more complicated, I'm guessing.

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Rachel, I'm so sorry for your loss. I went through a similar situation when my Irish husband passed away. Since your husband never worked in the US, you'll need to focus on the UK system for any benefits based on his work record. The UK does have "Bereavement Support Payment" which is different from their State Pension and has different age requirements - it's available to widows/widowers under State Pension age. You should definitely call that UK International Pension Centre number that Seraphina posted (+44 191 218 7777) and specifically ask about bereavement benefits, not just pension benefits. They have a whole separate system for widows that I wish someone had told me about earlier! Also, even with only 8 years of US work credits, you might still have some options through the totalization agreement if your husband had any UK National Insurance contributions. Don't give up - these cases are complex but there are often benefits available that aren't obvious at first.

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Should I apply online or in-person for spouse's Social Security benefits when she gets spousal top-up from SSDI?

Hi everyone! I'm dealing with a bit of a complicated Social Security situation and could use some advice. I was approved for SSDI about 6 months ago and am receiving my full retirement age amount (even though I'm only 54 - guess that's one tiny silver lining of disability). My wife turns 62 next month, and we're planning to have her apply for her own retirement benefits. She only worked part-time for about 15 years while raising our kids, so her benefit will be significantly lower than mine - around $750/month compared to my $2,425. From what I understand, she should qualify for a 'top-up' as my spouse, even though she's claiming early. I'm confused about the best way to apply though. Should we try to handle everything online, or is this complicated enough that we should schedule an in-person appointment at our local office? I've heard horror stories about both options. Has anyone gone through something similar recently?

Thank you all for the helpful advice! I think we're going to start with the online application but make sure to explicitly mention the spousal benefits in the remarks section. Then we'll follow up with a phone call to confirm everything is being processed correctly. If we run into trouble getting through on the phone, I might try that Claimyr service that someone mentioned. It's reassuring to hear from people who've been through similar situations. I'll update this thread once we get everything sorted out in case it helps someone else down the road. I really appreciate all your insights!

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Good luck with your application! Just wanted to add one more tip - when you do the online application, take screenshots of each page as you go through it. I learned this the hard way when my mom applied and we had questions later about what she had entered. Having those screenshots saved us a lot of confusion when we needed to reference her original answers during a follow-up call. Also, if you do end up needing to call, try calling right when they open at 8am - the wait times are usually much shorter first thing in the morning. Hope everything goes smoothly for you and your wife!

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Can I receive both FERS pension and Social Security benefits with Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP)?

I'm getting ready to retire next year and trying to figure out my benefits situation. I worked for the federal government under FERS for 23 years (1995-2018), and then moved to the private sector where I've been for the last 7 years. During my government service, I paid into the FERS system, and in my private job, I've had Social Security taxes taken out of every paycheck. I've heard conflicting things about whether I can collect both my government pension AND Social Security benefits, or if one reduces the other. Someone mentioned something called the 'Windfall' provision but wasn't sure if it applies to me. My financial advisor seems confused about it too. Does anyone know the rules about this? I need to understand what my actual retirement income will look like to make some important decisions.

Thank you all for the helpful information! I just checked my Social Security statement online and it does show earnings for all my years of work including my FERS time, which confirms what many of you have said about paying into the system during that time. I'm relieved to know that WEP probably won't affect me much since I was in FERS. I'm going to try to schedule an appointment with SSA to get the exact calculations. If I can't get through on the phone, I'll try that Claimyr service someone mentioned. One more question - does anyone know if any of this affects when I should start taking my Social Security benefits? I'll be 63 next year when I retire, but wondering if I should wait until my full retirement age or even 70?

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That's a great question about timing! The decision of when to claim Social Security is complex and very personal. For every year you delay claiming beyond full retirement age (which is likely 66-67 for you), you get approximately an 8% increase in benefits up until age 70. That's a guaranteed return you can't get anywhere else! Since you'll have your FERS pension providing guaranteed income, you might be in a good position to delay Social Security if you can afford to. This can be especially valuable if you expect to have a long lifespan or if you're the higher earner in a marriage (as it would maximize potential survivor benefits for your spouse). But there are many factors to consider including your health, other income sources, tax situation, and immediate needs. I'd suggest consulting with a financial advisor who has experience with federal employees to run some numbers specific to your situation.

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As someone who went through a similar transition (federal service to private sector), I can confirm what others have said about FERS not being affected by WEP the same way CSRS is. However, I'd also recommend looking into whether you qualify for the "special retirement supplement" (SRS) if you retire before age 62. Since you have 23 years of FERS service, you might be eligible for this temporary payment that bridges the gap until you can claim Social Security at 62. The SRS is designed to approximate what your Social Security benefit would be based on your federal service alone, and it can provide valuable income during those early retirement years. Just something else to factor into your retirement planning timeline!

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