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Based on what you've described, your best strategy is likely to focus on your own benefit. Since it will be higher than your potential spousal benefit (50% of your husband's FRA amount), you'll want to consider whether to take your own benefit early at 62 (with a permanent reduction) or wait until your Full Retirement Age (67) or even age 70 (for maximum benefits). Each year you delay claiming from 62 to 70 increases your benefit by approximately 8%, which is a guaranteed return that's hard to beat elsewhere. But of course, that depends on your health, financial needs, and other retirement income sources. And as others mentioned, definitely account for any potential WEP/GPO impacts in your calculations.
This makes sense - thank you for laying it out so clearly! I think I understand the rules better now. I was confused about the survivor vs. spousal benefits and what age applies to each. Sounds like my best bet is to just focus on maximizing my own benefit since it will be higher than any spousal benefit I could receive. I appreciate everyone's help!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to look into whether your husband has enough quarters of coverage under Social Security to even qualify for benefits. Since he's been primarily in a teaching system that doesn't pay into SS, he may not have the required 40 quarters (10 years) of covered employment to be eligible for Social Security benefits at all. If he doesn't qualify for his own SS benefit, then there wouldn't be any spousal benefit for you to claim from his record anyway. You'd only be eligible for survivor benefits if he passes away and had enough work credits. This could actually simplify your planning since you'd just focus entirely on optimizing your own benefit timing. You can check his coverage by looking at his Social Security Statement online - it will show exactly how many quarters he has earned under the SS system.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered! You're absolutely right - if he doesn't have the 40 quarters, there wouldn't be any spousal benefits available from his record anyway. That would definitely simplify things. I'll make sure to check his SS statement to see exactly how many quarters he's earned. Thanks for bringing this up - it could save me a lot of unnecessary planning around benefits that might not even exist!
To simplify what's been said and clarify a key point: if you wait until August 2025 (your FRA month) to START collecting Social Security benefits, then: 1. Your January-July 2025 earnings won't affect your benefits at all, regardless of amount 2. From August onward, you can earn unlimited income with no benefit reduction The earnings test only applies when you're actually receiving benefits before FRA. Since you're planning to start benefits exactly at your FRA month, the earnings test essentially doesn't apply to your situation at all. This is one of the advantages of waiting until exactly your FRA month to start benefits.
Just wanted to add one more consideration for your consulting work - make sure you're properly set up for self-employment taxes! Since you'll be earning $3k+ monthly from consulting, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties. The IRS generally expects payments if you'll owe $1,000 or more in taxes. Also, don't forget that as a consultant you'll be paying both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (15.3% total), though you can deduct half of this on your tax return. This is separate from the Social Security earnings test discussion but important for your overall financial planning. Good luck with the transition to consulting - sounds like you've got the Social Security timing figured out perfectly!
This is such helpful advice! I hadn't really thought through all the self-employment tax implications yet. Since I'm used to having taxes automatically withheld from my corporate salary, the quarterly payments will definitely be a new process for me. Do you happen to know if there are any good resources for first-time consultants to figure out the estimated payment amounts? I want to make sure I don't get hit with penalties in my first year of consulting.
Thank you for the kind words! You're absolutely right - health comes first. I hope your husband is doing well now after his surgery.
I'm sorry to hear about your heart issues, but you're asking all the right questions. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like withdrawing your application is definitely feasible since you're well within the 12-month window and haven't received payments yet. The once-in-a-lifetime restriction is something I wasn't aware of either - that's crucial information that makes this decision more significant. Given your medical situation and the substantial treatment costs you're facing, it might make sense to withdraw now, focus on your health, and potentially reapply closer to your FRA when you'd get higher monthly benefits. The 8% delayed retirement credits mentioned earlier could really add up, especially if you're looking at ongoing medical expenses where a higher monthly payment would be beneficial. Have you calculated what your benefit amount would be at 67 versus what you'd get now at 64? That comparison might help inform your decision.
That's excellent advice about calculating the benefit difference! I hadn't thought to run those numbers yet. With my FRA at 67, waiting 3 more years would give me those delayed retirement credits plus potentially higher earnings to factor into my top 35 years. Given that I'm dealing with a chronic condition that will require ongoing treatment, having a higher monthly benefit long-term seems like it would be worth the short-term sacrifice. Do you happen to know if there are any online calculators that can help estimate the difference, or should I request a benefit statement from SSA directly?
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I can confirm what others have said - the monthly test only applies in your first year of benefits. The key is being proactive about reporting. I kept a simple spreadsheet tracking my monthly earnings projections and would call SSA by the 15th of any month I expected to exceed the limit. Yes, getting through is a pain, but it's way better than dealing with overpayment notices later. One tip: SSA considers when you EARN the income, not when you receive payment. So if you close a real estate deal in March but don't get paid until April, it counts toward March's earnings limit. This tripped me up initially. Also, keep detailed records of all your transactions and communications with SSA. You'll need them for tax time and potentially for any disputes. The system is confusing but manageable once you understand the rules.
Thank you for the practical advice! The point about when income is EARNED vs when it's RECEIVED is huge - I hadn't thought about that distinction. As a real estate agent, there's often weeks between closing and getting paid. So if I close a big deal on March 30th but don't get my commission until April 5th, that still counts toward March's limit? That could really mess up my monthly tracking if I'm not careful about it.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation - started collecting at 62 last year and work freelance graphic design with very unpredictable income. One thing I learned the hard way: SSA also counts estimated quarterly tax payments as part of determining your monthly earnings for self-employment income. So if you pay estimated taxes in January for Q4 of the previous year, they might allocate some of that income to January even though you actually earned it months earlier. I'd recommend setting up a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can report work activity changes there without having to call, and it keeps a record of what you've reported. It's been a lifesaver for managing my variable income reporting. Also, real estate commissions can be tricky because of when deals close vs when you actually did the work. I'd suggest tracking both the date you earned the commission (contract signing/deal completion) AND when you receive payment, just to be safe when reporting to SSA.
Liam O'Sullivan
Thank you all for the helpful information! I just checked my Social Security statement online and it does show earnings for all my years of work including my FERS time, which confirms what many of you have said about paying into the system during that time. I'm relieved to know that WEP probably won't affect me much since I was in FERS. I'm going to try to schedule an appointment with SSA to get the exact calculations. If I can't get through on the phone, I'll try that Claimyr service someone mentioned. One more question - does anyone know if any of this affects when I should start taking my Social Security benefits? I'll be 63 next year when I retire, but wondering if I should wait until my full retirement age or even 70?
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•That's a great question about timing! The decision of when to claim Social Security is complex and very personal. For every year you delay claiming beyond full retirement age (which is likely 66-67 for you), you get approximately an 8% increase in benefits up until age 70. That's a guaranteed return you can't get anywhere else! Since you'll have your FERS pension providing guaranteed income, you might be in a good position to delay Social Security if you can afford to. This can be especially valuable if you expect to have a long lifespan or if you're the higher earner in a marriage (as it would maximize potential survivor benefits for your spouse). But there are many factors to consider including your health, other income sources, tax situation, and immediate needs. I'd suggest consulting with a financial advisor who has experience with federal employees to run some numbers specific to your situation.
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Daniel Price
As someone who went through a similar transition (federal service to private sector), I can confirm what others have said about FERS not being affected by WEP the same way CSRS is. However, I'd also recommend looking into whether you qualify for the "special retirement supplement" (SRS) if you retire before age 62. Since you have 23 years of FERS service, you might be eligible for this temporary payment that bridges the gap until you can claim Social Security at 62. The SRS is designed to approximate what your Social Security benefit would be based on your federal service alone, and it can provide valuable income during those early retirement years. Just something else to factor into your retirement planning timeline!
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Victoria Charity
•That's really helpful information about the SRS! I hadn't heard of the special retirement supplement before. Do you know what the eligibility requirements are beyond the years of service? Since I'm planning to retire at 63, this could definitely help bridge that gap until I can claim Social Security at 62... wait, that doesn't sound right. Can you clarify - I thought you had to be at least 62 to claim Social Security, so how would the SRS work if I retire at 63?
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