Social Security spousal benefits after GPO repeal - will I get 50% of husband's early retirement amount?
I've been trying to understand how the GPO repeal will affect me. My husband claimed his Social Security early at 62 (back in 2023) and now gets about $2,150 monthly. I'll be eligible for spousal benefits soon, and I've heard conflicting information about how much I'd receive. Since he took benefits before his full retirement age and had that reduction applied, will my spousal benefit still be exactly half of his current amount (so around $1,075)? Or is it calculated differently because he claimed early? We've been married for 43 years, and I didn't work enough quarters to qualify for my own benefit. The SSA website is so confusing on this topic, especially with all these GPO changes happening!
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Malik Johnson
Your spousal benefit will be up to 50% of your husband's PRIMARY insurance amount (PIA), not his reduced benefit. PIA is what he would have received at his full retirement age. So your spousal benefit might actually be higher than half of what he currently gets! But it also depends on when YOU claim the spousal benefit - if you claim before YOUR full retirement age, your spousal benefit will be reduced.
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Emma Davis
•Thank you! That makes more sense. Do you know if the SSA automatically recalculates this after the GPO repeal, or do I need to contact them? I've been getting conflicting advice from friends.
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Isabella Ferreira
my sister went thru this exact thing last year!!! she thought shed get 50% of what her hubby was getting but that's NOT how it works. they base it on his full amount before reduction and then they reduce YOURS based on YOUR age when u claim. its super confusing
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Emma Davis
•Thank you for sharing your sister's experience. Did she have to wait long to start receiving benefits after she applied?
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Ravi Sharma
To give you the technical explanation: Your spousal benefit will be based on your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what he would have received at his Full Retirement Age (FRA), NOT his reduced benefit of $2,150. However, if YOU claim spousal benefits before YOUR FRA, your benefit will be permanently reduced. The reduction is approximately 25/36 of 1% for each month before FRA, up to 36 months, and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. The GPO repeal doesn't change these calculations - it eliminated the Government Pension Offset that reduced Social Security benefits for those who also receive certain government pensions. If you don't have a government pension, the GPO repeal doesn't directly affect your calculation.
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Emma Davis
•Thank you for such a detailed explanation! So if my FRA is 67 but I claim at 62, roughly how much of a reduction would that be to my spousal benefit?
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NebulaNomad
Has anyone else noticed how INSANELY DIFFICULT it is to even talk to someone at Social Security to ask these questions?!? I tried for THREE DAYS last month to get through about my spousal benefits and kept getting disconnected or put on hold for hours. It's ridiculous that we have to figure this out ourselves when THEY keep changing the rules!
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Freya Thomsen
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Omar Fawaz
Just to clarify about the GPO repeal - this only affects you if you have a pension from government work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. The repeal means those government pensions won't reduce your Social Security spousal benefits anymore. Based on what you've shared, it sounds like you're asking about regular spousal benefits calculation rather than anything related to GPO. If you don't have a government pension, the GPO repeal won't change your situation one way or the other.
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Emma Davis
•You're right - I don't have a government pension. I've been confused by all the news about the GPO repeal and thought it might somehow affect regular spousal benefits too. Thanks for clarifying!
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Isabella Ferreira
my mom just went thru this whole process and ended up getting like $1,300 as a spouse benefit even tho my dad only gets like $2,100 because of the PIA thing everyone is talking about. its weird how it can be MORE than half sometimes!!
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Chloe Martin
•Yep! It's because the spousal benefit is based on the FULL amount before reduction for early filing. Social Security math is so weird lol
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Malik Johnson
To answer your follow-up question about whether SSA automatically recalculates after the GPO repeal: If you were already receiving spousal benefits that were reduced due to GPO, SSA should automatically recalculate and adjust your payment. But if you haven't applied yet, you'll need to apply for spousal benefits when you're eligible. The GPO repeal just means they won't reduce your benefit if you also have a government pension.
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Emma Davis
•Perfect - that makes sense. I haven't applied for anything yet, so I'll need to do that when I'm eligible. Thank you!
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Freya Thomsen
Just make sure to apply a few months BEFORE you want benefits to start!! My application took almost 4 months to process (they're so backlogged) and they only gave me 6 months of backpay even though I thought I'd applied in plenty of time.
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Emma Davis
•That's really good advice - thank you! I'll make sure to apply early.
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Chloe Martin
half of 2150 is 1075 not 800 just saying
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Emma Davis
•You're right! I did that calculation wrong in my head. Math was never my strong suit 😅
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Ravi Sharma
To answer your question about how much reduction for claiming at 62 instead of 67: For spousal benefits, claiming at 62 when your FRA is 67 would result in approximately a 35% reduction. So if your husband's PIA is $2,500 (just an example), your full spousal benefit would be $1,250 (50% of PIA), but reduced by 35% to about $812.50 if claimed at 62. This is why it's often advantageous to wait until your FRA to claim spousal benefits if you can afford to do so.
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Emma Davis
•That's a significant reduction! I might need to reconsider my timing. Do you know if the reduction percentages are listed somewhere on the SSA website? I'd like to calculate the exact amount for different ages.
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Omar Fawaz
You can find the exact reduction percentages on the SSA website here: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/agereduction.html For spousal benefits, the reduction is 25/36 of 1% for each month before FRA (up to 36 months) and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. If you need help with this calculation, you can also call SSA directly or use their retirement calculator on the website.
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Emma Davis
•Thank you for the link! This is exactly what I needed.
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