Social Security GPO elimination - will I automatically get my spousal benefits or need to file?
I've been receiving those SSA statements for years showing I qualify for about $1,350/month in spousal benefits based on my husband's work record. But I've never actually received a penny because of the Government Pension Offset (GPO) that reduced it to zero (thanks to my teacher's pension). Now with all this talk about Congress possibly eliminating GPO, I'm confused about what happens next. If the GPO actually gets repealed, will Social Security automatically start sending me those spousal benefits? Or do I need to file some new application? Will they use the amount on my most recent Social Security statement? I'm 68 now and don't want to miss out if this actually happens. Has anyone dealt with something similar or know how this will work?
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Heather Tyson
There's a lot of confusion about the potential GPO elimination. First, it's not certain that it will pass in its current form. The SOCIAL SECURITY FAIRNESS Act has been introduced but hasn't become law yet. If it does pass, my understanding is that the SSA would need to review all affected cases - they won't automatically start paying benefits without some verification process. Based on my experience, you'll likely need to contact SSA directly once any legislation passes. The amount shown on your statement is an estimate assuming no GPO, so yes, that should be approximately what you'd receive if GPO is fully eliminated. But there may be other factors affecting the final calculation.
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Paloma Clark
•Thank you! So I shouldn't just sit back and wait for a check to show up in my account? I was hoping they'd automatically adjust everything since they already know I qualify except for the GPO. It's so hard to get through to anyone at Social Security these days.
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Raul Neal
my mom went thru somethng similar with her pension. SS always sez they'll "contact you" but they never do!! you DEF need to be proactive and contact them yourself once any law gets passed. dont wait for them!!!
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Paloma Clark
•That's what I was afraid of. Waiting on hold with Social Security for hours is the worst. I tried calling last month about something else and gave up after being on hold for 2 hours.
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Jenna Sloan
You'll absolutely need to file for benefits. I've been following the GPO elimination legislation closely since my wife is in your exact situation with her state pension. The current bills would require affected individuals to apply/reapply for benefits. Nothing will happen automatically. Keep in mind the amount on your statement is calculated based on your spouse's earnings record and your age at filing, but doesn't account for annual COLAs that would have been applied had you been receiving benefits. So the actual amount could be different than what's on your statement. Also, remember that any GPO elimination might be phased in over several years rather than all at once. I recommend creating or accessing your my Social Security account online at ssa.gov to verify your current status and be ready to act once legislation passes.
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Christian Burns
•THIS!! My husband had to deal with WEP which is similar to GPO and nothign happens automaticlly with SS. They know who's affected but still make you do all the work. And good luck getting thru on the phone!
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Sasha Reese
I tried calling the SS office 11 times last month about my disability application. Either busy signals or disconnected after waiting for hours. So frustrating!!!
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Muhammad Hobbs
I've been dealing with this exact GPO situation for years. From what I understand about the proposed legislation, it would be implemented in phases over 5 years. Even in the best-case scenario, if it passes this year, you would likely only get a percentage of your benefit initially, with the full amount coming later. About contacting SSA - I recently discovered a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual person at Social Security when I needed to discuss my benefits. Their system basically handles the hold time for you, then calls you when they have an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or check out claimyr.com. It was definitely worth it for me since I had complex questions that couldn't be answered online.
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Paloma Clark
•Thank you for this tip! I hadn't heard of this service before. I'll check out that video. And thanks for the info about the phased implementation - I hadn't considered that it might only be partial benefits at first. That makes sense though.
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Noland Curtis
I think all this GPO repeal talk is giving people false hope. They've been trying to repeal it for DECADES with no success. The cost is too high for Congress to ever actually pass it. Don't count on getting those benefits anytime soon!!! The SSA statement is just theoretical money you'll never see.
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Raul Neal
•way to be a downer! theres more support than ever now for fixing this unfair penalty!
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Jenna Sloan
•While it's true that previous repeal attempts have failed, this session has unprecedented bipartisan support. The main issue has been funding, but there are several proposals for how to pay for it. It's not guaranteed, but it's not impossible either.
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Sasha Reese
My aunt thought she would get spousal benefits too but turns out she was thinking of SSI not spouse benefits. Are you sure its GPO and not something else? Sometimes the letters are confusing.
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Paloma Clark
•Yes, I'm definitely affected by GPO. I get a teacher's pension from a state that didn't participate in Social Security, and GPO reduces my spousal benefits to zero. It's different from SSI, which is a needs-based program.
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Heather Tyson
To be clear about the process: If GPO is repealed, you will need to contact SSA and likely file an application for spousal benefits. Even if you previously applied and were denied due to GPO, you would need to file again under the new rules. The amount on your statement is a good starting point, but might not be exactly what you'll receive. Benefits are subject to annual Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs), and the final calculation will be based on your Full Retirement Age (FRA), when you file, and your spouse's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). I recommend working with a knowledgeable SSA representative when filing to ensure you maximize your benefits. Given how difficult it can be to reach SSA by phone, consider scheduling an in-person appointment at your local office once any legislation is actually passed.
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Paloma Clark
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'll definitely plan to be proactive about contacting them if the legislation passes. I just hope I can get through to someone who actually understands the complexities of GPO and spousal benefits!
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Raul Neal
btw be careful about getting your hopes up too much. my neighbor's wife is in same boat (teacher pension) and she said even if the law passes theres rumors it might only be partial elimination of GPO, not the whole thing. who knows what they'll end up doing!!!
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