Just discovered GPO elimination - Can I now claim spousal SS benefits with my teacher's pension?
I've been following the news about the Government Pension Offset (GPO) being eliminated and I'm trying to figure out what this means for me. I've been a public school teacher for 29 years and receive a pension of about $3,850 monthly. My husband and I have been married for 33 years, and he started collecting his Social Security at 62 (he's now 67). I'm at my full retirement age (66 and 8 months) and haven't claimed any Social Security benefits yet because the GPO would have wiped them out completely. Now that GPO is being phased out, I believe I can finally claim spousal benefits. From what I understand, I'd get half of what my husband would have received at his full retirement age, even though he claimed early. Is this correct? And will this amount include the COLAs that would have been applied since he started collecting? I'm so confused about how they calculate this - does anyone know for sure? I don't want to call SSA and wait hours only to get incorrect information.
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Tate Jensen
You're right that with the GPO elimination, you'll now be eligible for spousal benefits even while receiving your teacher's pension. Your spousal benefit would be based on 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what he would have received at his FRA, not what he's actually receiving after reduction for early claiming. And yes, that amount will include all COLAs that have been applied since he became eligible. When you apply, make sure to have your marriage certificate and be prepared to provide information about your pension. The phase-out is happening gradually though, so you won't immediately get the full amount - check the implementation timeline to see what percentage you're eligible for this year.
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Marcelle Drum
•Thank you so much! That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Do you know if I should wait until a specific month this year to apply to maximize my benefit under the phase-out schedule?
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Adaline Wong
my wife was a teacher for 35 yrs and we just went thru this same thing last month!! the ssa rep told us she gets 1/2 of MY benefit at MY fra even tho i took benefits at 63. the colas are all included automatically. but watch out they are only phasing out gpo slowly so you only get like 1/3 of the benefit this year and then more next year
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Gabriel Ruiz
•This is not entirely accurate. The GPO reduction will be 60% in 2025, 30% in 2026, and fully eliminated in 2027. So in 2025, the OP would have 40% of their spousal benefit amount available, not 1/3. Details matter when planning for retirement income.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but are you SURE the GPO is being eliminated??? I've been hearing rumors about this for YEARS but nothing ever happens!!! My sister-in-law is in the same boat (teacher pension) and we've been disappointed so many times with false hope. Can someone please share a link to OFFICIAL information about this change?? I don't want her getting her hopes up again for nothing.
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Peyton Clarke
•It's actually true this time! Congress passed the Social Security Fairness Act that eliminates both WEP and GPO. It's being phased out over 3 years. You can check ssa.gov for the official announcement. My uncle just applied for his benefits after waiting years because of WEP.
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Vince Eh
I've been through this exact process recently. Let me clarify a few things: 1. Your spousal benefit will be 50% of your husband's PIA (what he would've received at FRA) 2. This DOES include all COLAs since his eligibility 3. Remember the phase-out schedule: 40% of your benefit is available in 2025, 70% in 2026, and 100% in 2027 4. You'll need to provide your pension information when applying One thing that tripped me up: if you have any SS benefits from your own work history, they'll apply that first before adding additional spousal benefits. Make sure to ask the SSA rep to explain your specific calculation.
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Marcelle Drum
•This is so helpful! I worked a part-time job for about 10 years where I paid into Social Security, but it was minimal. I assume they'll calculate that in too? I'm getting anxious about calling and dealing with the SSA phone system...
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Sophia Gabriel
I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about this exact situation! Their phone lines are ridiculous - either busy signals or 3+ hour waits that often disconnect. I finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Worth it just to get actual answers from SSA directly about my GPO situation instead of guessing. The agent confirmed everything about the phase-out timeline and my benefit calculation.
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Marcelle Drum
•Oh wow, I hadn't heard of this service before. I'll check out that video - anything to avoid spending all day on hold only to get disconnected. Did you find the SSA agent knowledgeable about the GPO elimination specifically?
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Sophia Gabriel
•Yes! The agent I spoke with was surprisingly well-informed about the GPO elimination. She walked me through exactly how my benefit would be calculated during each year of the phase-out. Much better than the generic info on their website. Just make sure you have all your documents ready when they connect you.
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Adaline Wong
my sister got really confused when she applied because the ssa website still shows the old GPO rules in some places!!! make sure when u talk to them u specifically mention the new fairness act or they might give u wrong info
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Peyton Clarke
Congrats on finally getting access to your spousal benefits! My mom was in the same situation (teacher for 31 years). Just be aware that this might affect your tax situation. The combination of pension + new SS benefits could push you into a higher tax bracket. Might want to talk to a tax person before you file your application.
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Marcelle Drum
•I hadn't even thought about the tax implications! That's a really good point. I'll definitely talk to our accountant before making any decisions. Thanks for bringing this up!
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Gabriel Ruiz
I think there's some confusion here about COLAs. The COLA adjustments are applied to your husband's PIA before calculating your spousal benefit. For example, if his PIA was $2000 at his FRA and there have been total COLA increases of 15% since then, his PIA would now be $2300. Your spousal benefit would be based on 50% of $2300, which is $1150. Then that amount would be reduced according to the GPO phase-out schedule for 2025 (60% reduction), meaning you'd get $460 monthly this year, $805 next year, and the full $1150 in 2027. The exact percentages and timeline are on SSA's website.
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Adaline Wong
•wait is that right??? i thought the reduction was 60% of what it USED to be, not 60% reduction of the new amount??? now im really confused
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Let me clarify: Under the phase-out, the GPO reduction will be 60% in 2025, 30% in 2026, and 0% in 2027. So if your unreduced spousal benefit is $1150, in 2025 it would be reduced by 60% ($690), leaving you with $460. In 2026, it would be reduced by 30% ($345), leaving you with $805. In 2027, there would be no reduction, so you'd get the full $1150. Hope that helps!
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Misterclamation Skyblue
I just want to say THANK YOU to everyone who fought for years to get the GPO eliminated!!! My mother was a teacher for 35 years and lost out on THOUSANDS of dollars because of this unfair policy. She passed away last year never getting what she deserved. At least future generations of public servants won't have to suffer the same injustice. 😢
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Peyton Clarke
•So sorry about your mom. My aunt was in the same situation. These changes came too late for so many people.
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Tate Jensen
One additional point that hasn't been mentioned: Make sure to formally apply for these benefits as soon as you're eligible. The SSA will not automatically recalculate benefits for people affected by the GPO elimination. You need to initiate the process, and benefits are generally not retroactive beyond 6 months. With the phase-out schedule, determining the optimal application timing can be complex, so you might want to consult with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning to maximize your lifetime benefits.
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Marcelle Drum
•This is extremely helpful information! I didn't realize I needed to proactively apply - I assumed they would automatically adjust. I'll definitely look into filing right away. Do you know if I need to bring anything specific to prove my pension amount when I apply?
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Tate Jensen
•Yes, bring documentation showing your current pension amount, such as a recent benefit statement or payment stub. Also bring your marriage certificate, both your and your husband's Social Security cards, and birth certificates if possible. The more documentation you have ready, the smoother the process will be. You might also want to bring any documents showing your own Social Security-covered work history.
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