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Social Security spousal benefits with GPO - can my Texas teacher spouse claim based on my record now?

I'm really confused about whether the Government Pension Offset (GPO) rules have changed. I'm 70 and have been collecting my Social Security retirement for a few years now (about $2,400/month). My wife just retired last year at 69 after teaching in Texas public schools her entire career (32 years). She never paid into Social Security because Texas teachers have their own pension system. I've always heard she couldn't collect any spousal benefits based on my record because of that GPO rule that reduces spousal benefits by 2/3 of her pension. But someone at her retirement party mentioned something about a "Fairness Act" that might have changed things? Can she now apply for spousal benefits (which would be 50% of mine)? Has that GPO penalty been eliminated? We could really use the extra income with inflation these days.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Social Security Fairness Act has been proposed many times but has NOT been passed into law yet. The GPO (Government Pension Offset) and WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) are still in effect as of 2025. Your wife's potential Social Security spousal benefit would still be reduced by 2/3 of her Texas teacher pension. So if her teacher pension is substantial, it might completely wipe out any spousal benefits she could receive from your record. For example, if she gets $3,000/month from her Texas pension, 2/3 of that is $2,000. If her spousal benefit would be $1,200 (50% of your $2,400), the GPO would completely eliminate it because $1,200 - $2,000 = less than zero.

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Thanks for clearing that up - disappointing but at least now I know. So nothing has changed with those rules. I wonder why her colleague was so confident about this. Is there any proposed legislation that's close to passing?

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My mom was a Texas teacher too and went thru this EXACT same thing!!!! The GPO is sooooo unfair to teachers!!!! They work their whole lives teaching our kids and then get penalized. The system is BROKEN!!!

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Completely agree! My sister-in-law lost out on over $900 a month because of GPO. She taught for 38 years in Texas schools. Meanwhile people who barely worked get full benefits. Makes no sense.

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Mei Wong

To be fair, the reason for GPO is that Texas teachers don't pay into Social Security during their careers. They pay into their separate pension system instead. The offset exists because otherwise they'd be double-dipping - getting a full pension from a system they paid into AND full SS benefits from a system they didn't contribute to. I agree it seems harsh, but that's the rationale behind it.

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I think you're getting confused with the WEP and GPO - they're different things. The WEP affects your OWN benefits if you worked in a job that didn't pay into SS. The GPO affects SPOUSAL benefits. Your wife would be affected by GPO, not WEP since she's trying to claim on YOUR record. But either way, no, nothing has changed with either. The Social Security Fairness Act would repeal both, but it's still stuck in Congress like it has been for years.

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You're right, I meant GPO specifically. Just wasn't sure if something had changed recently that we weren't aware of. It sounds like nothing has, so she probably won't qualify for any spousal benefits.

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Your wife should still apply for spousal benefits anyway. The actual calculation is more complex than people realize, and depending on the exact amount of her teacher pension, she might still get some small amount of spousal benefits. The worst SSA can say is no. The formula is: Spousal Benefit - (2/3 × Teacher Pension) = GPO-Reduced Spousal Benefit If she's eligible for the maximum spousal benefit (50% of your PIA) and her teacher pension isn't too large, she might still get something. It costs nothing to apply except time.

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👆 This! My aunt was a Texas teacher for 25 years and everyone told her she'd get nothing from SS but she applied anyway and gets $117/month in spousal benefits. Not a fortune but it pays for groceries!

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Thanks for this suggestion! We'll definitely apply then. Every bit helps these days. Do you know if she needs to apply in person or can she do it online?

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Good luck getting through to SSA right now! Just tried calling about my own GPO issue and was on hold for TWO HOURS before getting disconnected. Trying to get an in-person appointment is almost impossible too - next available at my office is 3 months out! The retirement wave has completely overwhelmed them.

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Mei Wong

Try using Claimyr.com to get through to SSA quickly. You can skip those insane hold times completely. I was skeptical at first but it worked great for my WEP recalculation issue. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - definitely saved me hours of frustration when I needed to talk to someone about my benefits calculation.

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To answer your earlier question - your wife needs to apply for spousal benefits through the main SSA website or by calling 1-800-772-1213. For GPO situations, they'll need documentation of her pension amount, so she should have that ready. There is current legislation (Social Security Fairness Act of 2025) that would repeal both WEP and GPO, but it doesn't have enough support to pass yet. Every few years this gets reintroduced but hasn't made it through Congress. Maybe that's what her colleague was referring to?

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That must be it - someone probably told her colleague the bill was making progress, and they misunderstood that to mean it had actually passed. Thanks for clarifying and for the application info! We'll gather her pension details and apply soon.

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my husban was a police officer in ohio and WEP took almost HALF his ss benifits even though he worked other jobs for 20 years and paid in!!!!! its absolutly criminal what they do to public servents who paid into both systems!!!!

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That's actually WEP affecting your husband, not GPO. Different provision but equally frustrating. WEP reduces your own benefits, GPO reduces spousal/widow benefits. Both target people who worked in non-covered employment. It's a mess.

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Mei Wong

One important thing to note is that if your wife worked any jobs that DID pay into Social Security (maybe summer jobs, part-time work before teaching, etc.) and earned at least 40 credits (roughly 10 years of work), she might be eligible for her own Social Security benefit. In that case, WEP would apply to her own benefit instead of GPO applying to spousal benefits. This gets complicated fast, but sometimes people find they're better off claiming their own reduced benefit under WEP than getting nothing under GPO. Might be worth checking her earnings record on MySocialSecurity to see if she has any SS credits.

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She did work at a department store for about 7 years before starting teaching, but I don't think that's enough for 40 credits. We'll definitely check her MySocialSecurity account though - great suggestion!

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