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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who recently went through this process. I submitted my W-4V form about 3 weeks before my first payment was scheduled, and it worked perfectly. The key thing I learned is that you want your form to be in their system and processed BEFORE your first payment hits, but you don't necessarily need to wait until your status changes from "pending." I'd recommend calling your local SSA office first to ask about their current processing times for W-4V forms. Some offices are faster than others, and this will help you time it right. In my case, they told me it takes about 2-3 weeks to process, so I submitted mine accordingly. Also, definitely go in person if possible - I've heard too many stories about mailed forms getting lost. Good luck with your retirement benefits!

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This is really helpful advice about calling ahead to check processing times! I hadn't thought about that. It makes sense that different offices might have different turnaround times. I'll definitely call my local office next week to ask about their current W-4V processing timeline so I can plan accordingly. Thanks for sharing your successful experience - it gives me more confidence about the whole process!

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! The confusion about timing is totally understandable. From my experience, you can absolutely submit your W-4V form now even while your application shows as "pending." I submitted mine about 2 weeks after getting my approval notification (while it still showed pending online) and everything worked smoothly. Here's what I'd suggest: Fill out your W-4V form completely, make several copies for your records, and take it directly to your local SSA office in person. When I went, they stamped my copy as received and told me it would be attached to my file so the withholding would automatically start with my first payment. Sure enough, my first check in had the correct tax withholding! The most important thing is getting it processed before your May payment, so you have plenty of time. Don't stress too much about the "pending" status online - that's just how their system works during the transition period. You've got this!

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Wow, this entire thread has been so incredibly helpful! I'm actually a federal employee (not state) and have been wondering about how my FERS pension might affect spousal benefits when my husband eventually applies for Social Security. I know federal pensions work differently than state pensions regarding Social Security, but reading about everyone's GPO experiences has me thinking I should get educated about this now rather than being surprised later. The advice about gathering documentation early and calling SSA to verify application status seems universally valuable, regardless of the specific pension system. And the tip about timing calls for shorter wait times is something I'm definitely going to remember. One question for the group - has anyone dealt with FERS pensions specifically, or is most of the GPO discussion here focused on state/local government pensions? I'm wondering if the calculation differences might affect the GPO impact differently. Thanks again to ApolloJackson for starting this conversation and to everyone who shared their experiences. This is exactly the kind of real-world information that's so hard to find in official publications!

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Great question about FERS, Paolo! From what I understand, FERS participants are generally NOT subject to GPO because FERS employees do pay into Social Security. The GPO typically only affects pensions from employment where Social Security taxes weren't paid (like many state/local government jobs or older federal CSRS employees). However, I'd still recommend verifying this with SSA directly since pension rules can be complex and there might be specific situations or timing issues I'm not aware of. Better to confirm now while you have time to plan! The documentation gathering advice definitely applies regardless - having all your employment and pension information organized will make any future SSA interactions much smoother.

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This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm actually a newer federal employee (started with FERS about 3 years ago) and had no idea there were different rules for different pension systems. Julia's explanation about FERS employees generally not being subject to GPO because we do pay into Social Security makes sense, but I'm definitely going to call SSA to confirm this applies to my specific situation. What strikes me most about reading everyone's experiences is how much the system seems to rely on people figuring things out on their own rather than providing clear guidance upfront. The fact that so many of you received confusing letters or had documents disappear from your online accounts suggests this is a systemic communication issue, not just individual cases. I'm going to take the advice several people mentioned about starting to organize all my employment documentation now, even though I'm nowhere near retirement. It seems like having everything ready ahead of time is crucial for navigating these complex benefit interactions successfully. Thanks to everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - this is invaluable information that you just can't get from reading SSA publications alone!

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You're absolutely right about the systemic communication issues, Dmitry! It's really striking how many people in this thread had similar experiences with confusing letters and documents disappearing from their accounts. As someone new to the federal system, you're actually in a great position to start planning early. Your point about organizing documentation now is spot on - I wish I had started that process years ago instead of scrambling to figure everything out closer to retirement. Even though FERS employees typically aren't affected by GPO, there are so many other benefit interactions and rules that can impact your total retirement picture. Plus, having everything organized will make any future conversations with SSA much more productive. The fact that you're thinking about this stuff now, just three years into your federal career, shows great foresight. Most of us didn't even know these issues existed until we were much closer to retirement!

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my brother n his gf tried to claim they were common law for ss and got DENIED even tho they lived together 15+ years... ss said they needed MORE PROOF they were acting like married people. make sure u have tons of paperwork!!!

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There's a big difference between just living together and having a common-law marriage. Your brother's situation sounds like they may have been cohabitating but didn't meet the specific requirements for common-law marriage in their state. Each state has different requirements beyond just living together.

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Just wanted to add my experience - I successfully got spousal benefits based on my common-law marriage in Texas after 25 years together. The key was having that Declaration of Informal Marriage from the county clerk like @Javier Gomez mentioned. We filed it about 6 months before I applied for SS benefits, and it made the whole process much smoother. The SSA agent told me that having that official declaration really helps because it shows the state of Texas recognizes your marriage. We also provided joint bank statements going back 10+ years, our mortgage documents showing both names, and affidavits from family members. One tip: when you go to file the Declaration, bring as much documentation as possible showing your relationship timeline. The county clerk can include some of that in the filing which strengthens your case with SSA later. Good luck!

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This is really encouraging to hear! Thank you for sharing your success story. I'm wondering - when you filed the Declaration of Informal Marriage, did you need both you and your partner to be present at the county clerk's office, or could one person handle the filing? Also, how far back did you date the declaration? We've been together almost 30 years but I want to make sure we handle the timing correctly for our Social Security application.

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Congratulations on getting through to SSA and getting that clarification! Your experience is a perfect example of why it's so important to push back when you get an initial denial - many people just accept the first "no" without realizing there might be exceptions or special rules that apply to their situation. The fact that you're in your FRA year makes a huge difference, and it sounds like the original reviewer may not have caught that detail. Keep us posted on how your reconsideration goes - your success story could help others in similar situations!

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone new to navigating Social Security, I had no idea about the earnings test or how severance payments are treated. @GalaxyGuardian your persistence really paid off, and it's encouraging to see that there are knowledgeable people here willing to help explain these complex rules. I'm bookmarking this discussion for future reference - the distinction between regular earnings limits and FRA-year limits could be crucial for anyone in a similar situation. Thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise!

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What a rollercoaster this must have been for you! Your story really highlights how important it is to get multiple opinions and keep pushing when dealing with SSA. I'm curious - when you submit your reconsideration request, are you including any specific documentation beyond just the severance paperwork? I'm wondering if there's a particular form or letter format that works best for these earnings test appeals. Also, do you know roughly how long the reconsideration process typically takes? I imagine there are others reading this who might find themselves in similar situations and could benefit from knowing the timeline. Really glad you didn't give up after that initial denial!

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This is such great advice from everyone! I'm in a similar situation (retiring in August 2025) and was really worried about the timing. Reading through all these responses has cleared up so much confusion. One quick question for those who've been through this - after you applied online, how long did it typically take to hear back from SSA with confirmation that everything was processed correctly? I know Ethan mentioned planning to apply in April for July benefits, but I'm wondering if there's usually enough time to fix any issues that might come up during those 3 months. Also, has anyone here had experience with the automatic recalculation that happens after you stop working? I'm curious how long that takes and whether they notify you when your benefit amount gets adjusted for those final months of earnings. Thanks for sharing all your experiences - it's so helpful to hear from people who've actually navigated this process!

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Great questions! I went through this process about 18 months ago, so I can share my timeline. After applying online, I got an initial acknowledgment within about a week, then had my formal approval letter about 3-4 weeks later. The 3-month window definitely gives you plenty of time to address any issues that come up. For the automatic recalculation after stopping work - that took about 6-8 months in my case. SSA has to wait for your employer to submit your final W-2 for the year, then they recalculate. I got a notice in the mail when it happened, and my monthly payment increased by about $23. Not huge, but every bit helps! One tip: if you don't hear anything within 2 weeks of applying, don't panic. You can check your application status online or use that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to get through to SSA quickly. The peace of mind is worth it during this transition period. @b9ced393b56c might find this timeline helpful too for his July retirement planning!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been researching this exact scenario for months, I'm relieved to see so many people confirm that applying 3-4 months early while still working is the right approach. One thing I'd add from my research - when you apply online, there's actually a "remarks" section where you can add notes about your situation. I plan to write something like "Currently employed through June 30, 2025. Request benefits to begin July 2025 upon retirement." This gives SSA additional context about your timeline and intentions. Also, for anyone worried about the earnings calculation - I called SSA last month (waited 2+ hours!) and the representative confirmed that they routinely handle applications from people who are still working. It's completely normal and won't cause any delays or complications as long as you're clear about your intended benefit start date. The key is just being very explicit about when you want benefits to begin. SSA processes thousands of these applications every month from people in similar situations!

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That's excellent advice about using the remarks section! I hadn't thought about adding that clarification, but it makes perfect sense to give SSA that extra context upfront. Writing "Currently employed through June 30, 2025. Request benefits to begin July 2025 upon retirement" seems like a smart way to prevent any confusion about timing. I'm definitely going to include something similar when I apply in April. It's reassuring to hear that SSA representatives have confirmed this is a routine situation they handle regularly. Sometimes it feels like you're navigating uncharted territory, but clearly thousands of people go through this exact same timing scenario every year. Thanks for sharing that tip about the remarks section - that's the kind of practical detail that can really make a difference in ensuring smooth processing!

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