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I reached my full retirement age last fall and started collecting Social Security right away. Now, I've got an unexpected job offer that would put me back to work full-time with good benefits and salary. I'm wondering if I should (or even can) pause my Social Security payments while I'm working? Does anyone know if there are advantages to suspending benefits at this point? I've heard about something called 'voluntary suspension' but I'm not clear on how it works or if it would benefit me financially. Would my future benefit amount increase if I suspend now? Any experience or knowledge about this would be really helpful!
I'm in a panic right now. My mom just received a termination notice from Social Security saying her SSI-linked Medicaid coverage will end in 6 months because her bank account exceeded the $2000 resource limit. Her balance hit $3250 when her tax refund and a small inheritance from her aunt arrived in the same month. She has severe diabetes and COPD and absolutely cannot afford to lose her healthcare coverage. She didn't realize these deposits would push her over the limit and now she's terrified. Has anyone successfully appealed one of these Medicaid terminations? Is there a way to spend down the excess now and keep her benefits? The notice mentions something about a 'good cause' explanation but I'm not sure what would qualify. She's 59 and has been on SSI for almost 10 years after a workplace injury left her unable to work. Any advice would be really appreciated as I don't know where to start with this.
One final tip: when your mom communicates with SSA, she should emphasize that these were one-time deposits and not recurring income. Have her bring bank statements from before and after to show her account is typically well below the limit. If the tax refund was $1420 and $1200 of the inheritance can be excluded as burial funds, that would resolve the issue. The remaining portion of the inheritance would still count, but you've already identified enough exclusions to potentially bring her below the $2000 limit. Make sure to submit the Request for Reconsideration right away regardless, as this preserves her appeal rights while you sort everything out. Good luck!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help. My aunt went through almost the exact same situation last year - her SSI Medicaid got terminated when she received an unexpected inheritance and tax refund in the same month. What really helped her case was keeping detailed records of everything. She made copies of her aunt's will that specifically mentioned the funds being "for final expenses" and got a letter from the tax preparer showing exactly when and how much her refund was. When she went to the SSA office, having all that documentation made a huge difference. The caseworker was actually pretty understanding once they saw it was clearly a one-time situation and not her trying to hide assets. They reinstated her benefits within about 6 weeks after she filed the appeal. One thing I learned from her experience - if you can't get through to SSA by phone, sometimes showing up at the office first thing in the morning works better. She went at 8 AM when they opened and only waited about 20 minutes to be seen. Really hoping your mom gets this sorted out quickly. The stress of potentially losing healthcare coverage is terrible, especially when it's just a misunderstanding about the rules.
I've been receiving my late husband's survivor benefits since I was 60 (he passed away unexpectedly in his 40s). I'm currently 69 and will turn 70 in January 2025. I've worked consistently throughout and my own Social Security benefit will be about $1,400 more monthly than what I get now as a survivor. Here's my question: If I don't apply for my retirement benefits until June 2025 (6 months after turning 70), but request my start date to be January 2025 when I turned 70, will Social Security pay me the difference between my survivor benefit and my own retirement benefit as backpay for those 6 months? I've heard conflicting information about this. My neighbor says I can get up to 6 months of retroactive benefits, but someone at my church group said that only applies if you're past FRA but not yet 70. I want to maximize my lifetime benefits, but also need to schedule some major dental work and the backpay would really help cover that cost.
Based on everything I've read here, it sounds like you have a solid plan! Just to summarize the key points from everyone's advice: Yes, you can get up to 6 months retroactive benefits when switching from survivor to retirement benefits at 70. Apply in January 2025 (don't wait until June), specify January 2025 as your effective date to preserve your delayed retirement credits, and be prepared for the lump sum backpay to count as 2025 income for tax purposes. The consensus seems to be that SSA will pay you the difference between what you received in survivor benefits vs. what your retirement benefit should have been for those months. Good luck with your application and your dental work!
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - when you apply in January, make sure to ask the SSA representative about any potential Medicare Part B premium adjustments. Since your monthly Social Security benefit will increase by $1,400, this could affect your Medicare premiums if you're already enrolled or planning to enroll soon. The income increase might push you into a higher IRMAA bracket, but since you're switching from survivor benefits to your own earned benefits (rather than getting a windfall), there may be ways to address this. It's worth asking about during your application appointment so you're not surprised by any premium changes later.
You can estimate the Medicare IRMAA impact by looking at the income thresholds on Medicare.gov. For 2024, IRMAA kicks in at $103,000 for single filers ($206,000 for married filing jointly). The premium adjustments are based on your modified adjusted gross income from two years prior, so your 2025 benefits would affect your 2027 Medicare premiums. Since you're getting survivor benefits now, your current income might already be close to a threshold, so the $1,400/month increase ($16,800 annually) could potentially bump you up. The Medicare.gov site has a calculator that can give you a rough estimate, or you could ask your tax preparer to run some scenarios for you.
You can get a rough estimate by looking at the Medicare IRMAA brackets on the Medicare.gov website. For 2024, the income thresholds for higher premiums are based on your modified adjusted gross income from 2022. With an extra $1,400/month ($16,800/year), you'd want to see which bracket that puts your total income in. The brackets start at around $103,000 for individuals and go up from there. However, since this is a switch from one type of Social Security benefit to another (not new income), you might have grounds to appeal any premium increase using the SSA-44 form that was mentioned earlier in this thread. I'd definitely discuss this with the SSA rep when you apply!
I'm trying to sign up for Medicare (turning 65 in March) and I need to make an in-person appointment at my local Social Security office. The problem is I've been calling the 800 number for THREE DAYS and keep getting stuck on hold for hours!! I've waited 2+ hours multiple times before having to hang up for other appointments. Is there any other way to schedule with SSA? Their website is confusing me and doesn't seem to have an appointment scheduler. I'm worried about missing my enrollment period and getting those late penalties everyone warns about. Has anyone successfully made an appointment recently? What's the secret???
I went through this exact same nightmare last year! After days of failed phone attempts, I discovered you can actually start your Medicare application online at ssa.gov without needing to talk to anyone first. Go to "Apply for Benefits" and select "Medicare Only." You'll answer questions about your current insurance and employment status. Even if you can't complete everything online, it creates a case in their system and they'll often call YOU back within a few days to finish up. This saved me from the phone hell and I got my Medicare sorted out well before my deadline. The online application also helps you figure out exactly what documents you'll need if you do end up needing an appointment. Worth trying before spending more hours on hold!
This is really helpful! I had no idea you could start the Medicare application online like that. I've been so focused on trying to get through on the phone that I didn't explore all the online options properly. Having them call me back sounds so much better than sitting on hold for hours. Did you end up needing to provide any additional documents after they called you back, or were you able to complete everything just with what you submitted online?
I just went through this exact same struggle three weeks ago! After multiple failed attempts with the phone system, I found a combination approach that finally worked. First, I started the Medicare application online at ssa.gov (under "Apply for Benefits" > "Medicare Only") which at least got something in their system. Then I called the 800 number at exactly 8:00 AM on a Wednesday morning with my confirmation number from the online application. Having that reference number seemed to help - the agent could pull up my case immediately and we finished everything in about 20 minutes over the phone. The key documents I needed were: birth certificate, Social Security card, photo ID, and details about my current insurance coverage (including when it ends). Since you mentioned you have a marketplace plan ending when you turn 65, make sure to have those policy details handy - they'll want to coordinate the timing so there's no coverage gap. Don't stress too much about the deadline - you have until June since you're turning 65 in March. But definitely try that early morning call strategy with your online application reference number if you can get one started. Good luck!
Trying to decide if I should just go ahead and file for Social Security now or wait 4 more months until my Full Retirement Age. I know I'll lose some money by filing early, but how much are we talking about? Is it just a few dollars per month? I'm tired of working full-time and really want to start my retirement. My mortgage is almost paid off, and I have about $115,000 in my 401k. My health is pretty good (just blood pressure medication), so I'll probably live a long time. Is it stupid to file 4 months early just because I'm impatient? Would love to hear from people who've been in this situation.
After reading through this whole discussion, I think you're in a good position to make an informed choice now. It's not a massive financial difference either way given that it's only 4 months. The earnings test complicates things slightly, but only for those 4 months. One last thing to consider: if you're truly miserable at work, what's the value of your happiness and mental health for those 4 months? Sometimes that's worth more than the financial calculation. Best of luck with your decision!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the "break-even" analysis. With a $58/month reduction on a $2,650 benefit, you'd collect about $2,592/month starting now versus $0 for 4 months then $2,650. It would take roughly 18-19 years for the higher benefit to make up for those 4 months of missed payments ($2,592 x 4 = $10,368). Given your good health and family longevity, this might actually favor waiting, especially with the part-time work earnings test issue. Have you considered gradually reducing your work hours over these 4 months to make the wait more bearable?
Jamal Brown
my brother tried suspending and said it was a nightmare to restart. took him like 4 months to get payments going again when he turned 70. just something to think about...
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DeShawn Washington
That's unusual - mine restarted automatically when I hit 70. Maybe your brother's situation had some complicating factors? The system is supposed to automatically restart benefits at 70 even if you forget to contact them.
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Toot-n-Mighty
Update: I called SSA this morning (waited about 45 minutes) and got some helpful info. The agent confirmed I can suspend anytime after FRA, and my benefits will grow by 2/3% every month they're suspended. She also mentioned that if I earn enough at my new job, I could potentially increase my benefit amount that way too because they'll recalculate based on my new earnings if they're higher than what was previously used. So it's like a double advantage! Thanks everyone for your helpful advice!
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Nia Johnson
That's fantastic news! You're absolutely right about the double advantage - the delayed retirement credits plus potentially higher earnings recalculating your benefit base. That 45-minute wait time isn't too bad compared to what some others have experienced. Sounds like you're in a really good position with this new job opportunity. Best of luck with your decision!
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