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How to apply for Social Security survivor benefits for grandchildren after son's death

I'm still in shock over losing my son suddenly last month. He had two young children (ages 8 and 11) who are now living with their mother, my ex-daughter-in-law. My son was their primary financial support and I promised to help figure out their Social Security options. I know children can get survivor benefits, but I'm completely lost on how to start this process. Do I need to go to a local office? What documents will they need? Is there an online application? Does my ex-daughter-in-law need to be the one to apply since she has custody? My son had been working steadily for about 15 years paying into Social Security. Any guidance would be so appreciated during this difficult time.

Payton Black

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I'm very sorry for your loss. Your grandchildren are likely eligible for survivor benefits. Their mother (your ex-daughter-in-law) should be the one to apply since she has custody. She'll need to call SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to schedule an appointment, as survivor applications can't be done fully online. Documents needed include: death certificate, children's birth certificates, your son's Social Security number, and possibly his most recent W-2 or tax return. The children could each receive up to 75% of your son's basic Social Security benefit, though there's a family maximum limit that might reduce this amount. The benefits can continue until they turn 18 (or 19 if still in high school).

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Angel Campbell

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Thank you so much for the clear information. I'll pass this along to their mother. Do you know if there's any limit on how long after his passing we have to apply? It's been about 5 weeks already, but everyone is still processing the grief.

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Harold Oh

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So sorry about ur son. When my sisters husband died last yr she had to bring ALL THE THINGS to SS office. birth certs, marriage cert, death cert, ssn cards for everyone, school records for the kids. Be prepared for a looooong wait even with appointment!!! The money is retro to when you apply so tell her NOT TO WAIT!!!

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Amun-Ra Azra

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This is 100% right! My niece waited almost 3 months to apply after her husband passed and lost out on those months of payments. They don't backdate to the death, only to when you submit the application!

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Summer Green

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I went through this exact situation when my daughter passed away two years ago, leaving behind three kids. Your ex-daughter-in-law needs to gather all documentation and make an appointment ASAP! The process is incredibly frustrating - I spent WEEKS trying to get through on the SSA phone line and kept getting disconnected or told to call back later. The offices were still partially closed due to COVID protocols back then, which made everything 10x harder. Eventually I discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent within 30 minutes instead of spending days redialing. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. It was the only way I could finally get appointments scheduled for my grandkids' applications. Once we finally got the applications submitted, the benefits started coming about 6 weeks later. The kids each got around $1,250 monthly which has been absolutely essential.

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Angel Campbell

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Thank you for sharing your experience. I've heard how difficult it can be to reach SSA by phone. I'll look into that service if my ex-daughter-in-law has trouble getting through. Did you have to provide proof of your daughter's earnings history or did SSA already have that information?

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Gael Robinson

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Sorry for your loss. One important point: if your ex-daughter-in-law has significant income, it won't affect the children's benefits. The custodial parent's earnings don't count against the children's survivor benefits. However, if the children themselves have income (unlikely at their ages), that could potentially affect things. Also, make sure your ex-daughter-in-law understands that she'll be the "representative payee" for the kids and will need to complete an annual accounting form showing how the benefits were used for the children's needs. The funds must be used for the children's food, housing, education, medical needs, etc.

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Harold Oh

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That representative payee thing is no joke!! My sister had to set up separate bank accounts for her kids benefits. SSA can audit you and demand receipts for how u spent every penny!! Keep good records!!

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Edward McBride

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I just want to join in saying how sorry I am about the loss of your son. I can't even imagine. My husband's brother died last year leaving 3 kids behind and dealing with SSA was a nightmare on top of all the grief. The backlog is insane. One thing no one mentioned - there might also be a one-time death benefit of $255 that someone can claim (usually goes to the spouse, but might be available for the kids if there was no spouse). It's not much but every bit helps when you're dealing with funeral costs on top of everything else.

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Payton Black

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Good point about the lump-sum death payment. If there was no current spouse, it can be paid to the children if they were eligible for benefits on the deceased's record in the month of death. The ex-daughter-in-law should definitely ask about this when applying for the children's survivor benefits.

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Darcy Moore

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Do the kids live in the same state where your son worked? My cousins kids had problems because he worked in New Jersey but the kids lived with their mom in Florida. Something about different processing centers caused delays. Just something to watch out for.

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Angel Campbell

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Yes, thankfully they're all in the same state. My son lived about 20 minutes away from them and had regular visitation. I hadn't considered how interstate issues might complicate things - that's good to be aware of.

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Harold Oh

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BTW dont let anyone tell u that the kids have to wait til she applies for her own widow benefits!!! Thats wrong!!! The kids can get benefits even if mom never applies for anything herself!! My sisters case worker tried to tell her that and it was a LIE!!!!

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Summer Green

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You're absolutely right. The children's eligibility is completely separate from any benefits the mother might qualify for. As long as the deceased parent worked enough quarters under Social Security, the children are eligible for survivor benefits regardless of the surviving parent's situation.

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Payton Black

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Just a follow-up on timing since you asked: There is a slight retroactivity allowed. Benefits can be paid retroactively for up to six months from the date of application. However, benefits cannot start before the month of the wage earner's death. So your ex-daughter-in-law hasn't missed out on anything yet, but it's still best to apply as soon as possible to start the process rolling. Also, the Social Security office might be able to help with expediting the application if they explain the financial hardship the children are experiencing after losing their father's income. Not guaranteed, but sometimes they can prioritize cases with demonstrated urgent need.

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Angel Campbell

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This is extremely helpful. I'll let her know about the six-month retroactive period but encourage her to apply as soon as possible. I believe they are experiencing financial hardship without my son's income, so I'll suggest she mention that during the application process. Thank you so much.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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My condolences on your loss. Dont forget that if youre helping financially with the grandkids, make sure to document everything in case you can claim them as dependents on your taxes. Might want to talk to a tax person about that situation.

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Gael Robinson

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This is an important point about taxes. Generally, the custodial parent claims the children as dependents, but there are exceptions if you're providing significant financial support. However, be aware that once the children start receiving survivor benefits, those benefits may count as their income (though much of it is likely exempt from taxation at their ages and benefit amounts). The mother, as representative payee, will receive tax forms for the benefits. This gets complicated, so consulting with a tax professional is excellent advice.

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