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Will my children get additional survivor benefits after their father died? Already receiving dependent benefits

My ex-husband passed away unexpectedly last month at age 67. Our children (14 and 16) have been receiving Social Security dependent benefits since he started collecting his retirement benefits last year. I'm confused about whether they'll now be eligible for survivor benefits on top of what they're already getting. When my cousin died a few years back, her daughter who was already on benefits saw her monthly amount increase substantially. Has anyone gone through this transition from dependent to survivor benefits with teenagers? Will there be an automatic adjustment or do I need to contact SSA? The local office is impossible to get through to by phone and the earliest appointment is 6 weeks out.

Zainab Ahmed

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Yes, your children will likely receive increased benefits. When a parent dies, dependent benefits typically convert to survivor benefits, which are generally 75% of the deceased's full benefit amount (compared to 50% for dependent benefits). The transition isn't always automatic though - you should definitely contact SSA. You'll need your ex-husband's death certificate and the children's Social Security numbers. Call the national number (800-772-1213) early in the morning (right when they open) rather than trying the local office.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thank you so much for explaining this! So they could get up to 75% each instead of the 50% they're getting now? That would make a huge difference for us. Do you know if there's a family maximum that might reduce what they actually receive?

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Connor Byrne

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When my husband died 2 years ago, my son's benefit went up about $430/month. It took almost 3 months to get processed though!!! Make sure you report the death ASAP even if you dont have the death certificate yet. And YES there is a family maximum but I don't know how they calculate it. Something about 150-180% of the workers benefit???

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Yara Abboud

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The family maximum is usually between 150% and 180% of the deceased's benefit, but can vary. It applies to the TOTAL benefits paid to all survivors combined, not individual amounts. Each case is different based on the worker's earnings record.

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PixelPioneer

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my sister had this exact situation last year! the kids were already getting benefits but then when her ex died they did get more money. they had to go into the SS office though and file paperwork it wasnt automatic

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Sorry for your loss. This is definitely something you should look into soon as survivor benefits can help significantly with your teenagers' expenses. When calling SSA be prepared to wait for hours - I tried for weeks and couldn't get through.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Amina Sy

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There are a few important things to understand here: 1. Your children will automatically convert from dependent benefits to survivor benefits, which is typically an increase from 50% to 75% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). 2. The Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) will apply. This limits the total amount all survivors can receive to between 150%-180% of the deceased's benefit, depending on their earnings record. 3. You need to report the death to SSA - this isn't automatic despite what some believe. Bring the death certificate when you do contact them. 4. There's a one-time death benefit of $255 that may be payable to the children if no surviving spouse is eligible. 5. Benefits will continue until age 18 (or 19 if still in high school). I recommend calling the national number at 800-772-1213 first thing when they open at 8am your local time.

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PixelPioneer

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This is great info but when my BIL passed away they told me the $255 death benefit could only go to a spouse not children. has that changed recently???

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Yara Abboud

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Im confused about one thing - if they were already getting benefits because he was over 65, wouldnt they already be getting 50% of his benefit? So the increase would just be from 50% to 75%? Not double or anything. Also remember they don't get both - survivor benefits replace dependent benefits.

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Miguel Diaz

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Yes, they've been getting about 50% of his benefit amount each month. So you're saying they'd go from that to about 75%? That's still a meaningful increase for us, especially with college coming up so fast. I definitely wasn't expecting them to get both types of benefits - just wasn't sure if survivor benefits would be higher than what they already receive.

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Paolo Rizzo

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When dealing with survivor benefits, timing is really important. SSA only allows for 6 months of retroactive benefits for survivors, so you'll want to file as soon as possible to avoid losing any potential payments. Based on my experience helping my brother's family last year, I'd recommend: 1. Gather all documents now (death certificate, birth certificates, your divorce decree if SSA doesn't already have it) 2. Call the national number (800-772-1213) but try right at 8:00 AM when they open 3. If you can't get through, try again on Wednesday-Friday as Monday and Tuesday are typically their busiest days 4. Check your children's mySocialSecurity accounts (if they have them) for any notifications The increase from dependent to survivor benefits was substantial for my niece and nephew, so it's definitely worth pursuing quickly.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thank you for the detailed advice! I'll start gathering all those documents tonight. I hadn't thought about the divorce decree, but that makes sense. We've been divorced for 8 years so I'll have to dig that up. And great tip about calling Wednesday-Friday instead of earlier in the week!

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Connor Byrne

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Does anyone know if the kids benefits are affected by whether the mom (original poster) is working or not??? When my kids got survivor benefits they told me my income didn't matter since I was the surviving parent not the deceased worker. But with dependent benefits I thought there were rules about income limits?? This is so CONFUSING!!!

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Zainab Ahmed

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You're right that it's confusing! For children receiving survivor benefits, the surviving parent's income doesn't affect the children's benefits. This is different from spousal benefits where earnings limits apply. For dependent benefits on a living parent, the child's own income might affect eligibility if they earn too much, but not the other parent's income. Since these children are converting from dependent to survivor benefits, the mother's income won't impact their eligibility or benefit amount.

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Amina Sy

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Since your question hasn't been fully answered yet: Yes, your children will receive higher survivor benefits than they were getting as dependents. What's important to understand is the Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) calculation will need to be redone. With two teenage children, they'll likely each receive 75% of your ex-husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), but if that exceeds the family maximum, their benefits will be proportionally reduced. You'll only know the exact amounts after SSA processes the claim. One more critical point - these survivor benefits are payable through age 18, or 19 if still in high school. This is something to plan for as the benefits will stop when they graduate or turn 19, whichever comes first.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thank you for explaining about the age limits too. My oldest will graduate high school right before turning 18, so I'm guessing his benefits would stop then? The younger one should get them until she graduates. I'm going to call SSA tomorrow morning first thing and get this process started.

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