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Oliver Becker

Will my child get 50% of husband's Social Security retirement benefits when he draws at 62 with pension?

My husband will be turning 62 in 2029 and we have a complicated situation with the new Social Security Fairness Act. He's a firefighter who will receive his full pension, but he's also worked 30+ years outside the fire department earning SS credits. With the Fairness Act now in place, he's expecting around $1,375/month from Social Security at 62 (plus his pension). Here's what I'm confused about - we have a young daughter who will only be 7 when he starts collecting retirement benefits. I've heard conflicting information about whether she's eligible for dependent benefits (50% of his amount) since he's taking early retirement at 62, not disability. Some people told me children only get benefits from parents on SSDI or SSI, but others say children under 18 can get benefits from a retired parent too. Does it matter that he'll be getting both SS retirement AND a pension? Does the Fairness Act change anything about family benefits? We're trying to plan our finances for the next decade and this could make a huge difference for our daughter's education fund. Any help would be appreciated!

Yes, your daughter will be eligible to receive benefits! Children can receive up to 50% of a parent's full retirement benefit amount if the parent is retired and receiving Social Security retirement benefits. This is true even if your husband is taking benefits early at 62 or has a pension. The key requirements are: 1. The child must be unmarried 2. Under age 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school) 3. The parent must be receiving Social Security retirement benefits The Social Security Fairness Act impacts the WEP/GPO provisions that previously reduced benefits for government pensioners, but it doesn't change the rules about children's benefits. Your husband's pension won't prevent your daughter from receiving benefits. One important note: Since your husband is taking benefits early at 62 (before his Full Retirement Age), there will be a family maximum benefit that could reduce the total amount your family receives. You should contact SSA directly to get the exact calculation for your situation.

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Oliver Becker

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Thank you so much for clarifying! This is a huge relief. Do you know if my daughter's benefits would be based on my husband's reduced amount at 62 or what he would have received at full retirement age? And would her benefits affect the amount my husband receives?

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my cousin got payments for his kid when he retired early so i think youll be fine but call and check before u count on the money

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Emma Davis

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Everything the first person said is right, BUT there's a catch!!! The Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) will probably limit what your family can receive!!! The total amount for all of you COMBINED (your husband + daughter) can't exceed 150-180% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount. And since he's taking retirement at 62, his benefit is already REDUCED, which means less money overall for both of them. It's SO FRUSTRATING how they don't make this clear on their website!!! And don't forget that your husband taking benefits at 62 means a 30% PERMANENT REDUCTION in his monthly amount compared to waiting until Full Retirement Age!!! With your daughter being so young, you might want to reconsider the timing! Or at least talk to someone at SSA about different scenarios.

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Oliver Becker

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Thanks for bringing up the Family Maximum Benefit - I had no idea about that! Is there a way to calculate what that would be for our situation? I'm getting concerned that we might need to reconsider having him file at 62 now.

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LunarLegend

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Your daughter will qualify for dependent benefits, but there are several factors to consider in your situation: 1. Your daughter's benefit would be up to 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what he would get at full retirement age, not his reduced age-62 amount 2. However, the Family Maximum Benefit will likely cap the total amount your family can receive, so your daughter might get less than the full 50% 3. With the Social Security Fairness Act, your husband's pension no longer reduces his SS benefits through WEP, but this doesn't change how dependent benefits work 4. Your husband should carefully consider if filing at 62 is optimal - with a young child eligible for benefits for 11 years (until she's 18), waiting to claim could potentially maximize your total family benefits I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to run calculations on different claiming ages, considering your daughter's benefits in the total family strategy. They can show you exact numbers for different scenarios.

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Malik Jackson

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This is actually super helpful info but good luck getting thru to someone at SSA. I've been trying for WEEKS to talk to someone about my benefit calculation and keep getting disconnected after waiting for hours. It's ridiculous how hard it is to get basic info from them.

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sorry but this makes me so mad!!! my neighbor had almost the same situation and they told her the kid could ONLY get benefits if the parent was on DISABILITY not retirement!!! the SSA office people don't even know their own rules half the time!!!! 😑😑😑

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That's unfortunately a common misconception, even among some SSA employees who don't deal with these cases regularly. The official SSA rules clearly state that children can receive benefits from parents who are receiving retirement benefits OR disability benefits. Your neighbor might want to appeal or reapply with this information.

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Oliver Becker

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm definitely going to look into the Family Maximum Benefit more and see if we should reconsider our timing. With our daughter being eligible until she's 18, maybe it makes more sense for my husband to wait longer to file. I'll try to get an appointment with SSA to run through different scenarios, though it sounds like reaching them might be a challenge. That Claimyr service might be worth checking out if I can't get through. The firefighter pension plus Social Security with the new Fairness Act already complicated our planning, and now we need to factor in our daughter's benefits too. I really appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge!

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just make sure you actually apply for your daughters benefits they dont do it automatic when he files

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LunarLegend

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One more important point that hasn't been mentioned - if your husband continues working after claiming at 62 (even part-time), he'll be subject to the earnings test until he reaches full retirement age. In 2025, beneficiaries who are under FRA for the entire year will have $1 in benefits withheld for every $2 earned above $22,320 (this amount increases yearly with inflation). Since your husband has always worked outside the fire department, this could significantly reduce both his benefits AND your daughter's if he continues working after claiming. The family maximum would still apply to whatever benefits remain after the earnings test reduction. This is another reason why many families in your situation might benefit from delaying the retirement claim, especially with a young child who would receive benefits for many years.

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Oliver Becker

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Oh wow, that's another wrinkle I hadn't considered. He was planning to do some consulting work after retiring from the fire department. It sounds like we really need to sit down with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning. This is more complicated than I realized!

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I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share what I learned when researching this for my own family situation. One thing that might help is using the SSA's online benefit estimator tool - it's not perfect but can give you a rough idea of different scenarios before you try to get through to them on the phone. Also, I've found that visiting a local SSA office in person (if you can take the time) sometimes gets better results than calling. You can make an appointment online and they seem more knowledgeable about complex situations like yours with multiple benefit types. Given all the factors people have mentioned - the family maximum, earnings test if he keeps working, and your daughter's long eligibility period - it really does sound like running the numbers on waiting vs. claiming at 62 could save your family thousands over the years. Good luck with your planning!

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NebulaNova

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Welcome to the community! Thanks for sharing those practical tips about the online estimator and visiting in person - that's really helpful advice. I hadn't thought about making an appointment online for the local office. The phone system has been so frustrating that I was starting to think there was no way to get proper help. Your point about the long-term financial impact is spot on - with our daughter having 11 years of eligibility, even small differences in the monthly amounts could add up to significant money over time.

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Diego Fisher

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add some perspective from someone who recently went through a similar situation with my spouse's early retirement and our minor child. Your daughter will definitely be eligible for benefits - that part is correct. But I'd strongly encourage you to really crunch the numbers on the timing before your husband files at 62. In our case, we initially planned for my husband to file early, but when we factored in our son's benefits and the family maximum, we realized waiting just two more years to his full retirement age would result in about $40,000 more in total family benefits over the child's eligibility period. The key insight for us was understanding that while your daughter's benefit is calculated based on 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (what he'd get at full retirement age), the family maximum still applies to the actual reduced amount he receives at 62. So you could end up in a situation where the family maximum significantly cuts into your daughter's benefits. Also, definitely look into whether your husband plans to work at all after "retiring" from the fire department - the earnings test can really eat into benefits for families with young children. We found a fee-only financial planner who specialized in Social Security strategies, and it was worth every penny for the peace of mind and optimized planning.

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Thanks for sharing your real-world experience, Diego! That $40,000 difference over the eligibility period really puts things in perspective. I'm definitely leaning toward getting professional help now - it sounds like the complexity of family maximum calculations combined with early retirement reductions could really impact our long-term financial picture. Did you find the fee-only planner through any particular organization, or do you have recommendations for finding someone who specializes in Social Security strategy? I want to make sure we're working with someone who really understands these nuanced situations with government pensions and the new Fairness Act changes.

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Zara Khan

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As someone new to this community, I wanted to chime in with what I learned when my sister faced a very similar situation last year. Her husband was also a government employee (teacher) who retired early at 62, and they had a young son who was eligible for benefits. One thing that really helped them was requesting a detailed benefit statement from SSA that showed projections for different claiming ages - not just the online estimator, but an actual personalized analysis. The local SSA office was able to provide this after some persistence, and it clearly showed how the family maximum would affect their total benefits at different claiming ages. What surprised them most was that even though their son's individual benefit amount stayed the same regardless of when dad claimed, the family maximum meant he actually received significantly less money when dad filed early versus waiting until full retirement age. The math worked out that waiting just 4 more years would result in about $35,000 more in total family benefits over their son's eligibility period. Also, with the Social Security Fairness Act eliminating WEP for your husband, his benefit calculation might be higher than he originally expected, which could make the case for waiting even stronger since it increases both his benefit and the family maximum threshold. I'd definitely recommend getting that detailed projection before making the final decision - it really clarified things for my sister's family!

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Dmitry Volkov

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Thanks for sharing that detailed example, Zara! Your sister's experience really highlights how important it is to get those personalized projections rather than just relying on general estimates. That $35,000 difference over the child's eligibility period is substantial - it really shows how the family maximum calculations can have such a big impact when there's early retirement involved. I'm definitely going to push for that detailed benefit statement you mentioned. It sounds like the local SSA office might be more helpful than the phone system for getting this kind of comprehensive analysis. With the Fairness Act potentially increasing my husband's benefit calculation, waiting could make even more sense than we originally thought. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your sister's experience - hearing real numbers from similar situations is incredibly helpful for our planning!

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Jibriel Kohn

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share some additional considerations based on what I've researched for similar situations. One aspect that hasn't been fully addressed is how the Social Security Fairness Act might actually work in your favor beyond just eliminating WEP. Since your husband has 30+ years of substantial earnings outside the fire department, his Primary Insurance Amount could be significantly higher than what he might have calculated under the old rules. This higher PIA would increase both his benefit and the family maximum threshold, potentially making the numbers work better for your family even if he claims early. However, I'd also suggest looking into something called "do-over" strategies. If your husband files at 62 and you later realize the family would benefit more from him having waited, he has a 12-month window to withdraw his application (paying back what was received) and refile later. It's not ideal, but it provides some flexibility if circumstances change or if you get better information about your daughter's benefit calculations. Another practical tip: when you do speak with SSA, ask specifically about "auxiliary benefits" and the "family maximum benefit" for your situation. Using these exact terms seems to help get you connected with representatives who are more familiar with complex family benefit scenarios rather than basic retirement questions. The fact that your daughter will be eligible for 11 years makes this decision really impactful financially - definitely worth getting professional help to optimize!

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Sasha Ivanov

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Thanks for bringing up the "do-over" option, Jibriel - I had no idea that was even possible! That 12-month withdrawal window could provide some valuable flexibility, especially given all the variables we're trying to navigate. Your point about the Social Security Fairness Act potentially increasing my husband's PIA more than we expected is really interesting too. We've been so focused on just eliminating the WEP reduction that we hadn't fully considered how much higher his actual benefit calculation might be with 30+ years of substantial earnings now counting at full value. That could definitely change the math on when to claim. I'll make sure to use those specific terms about "auxiliary benefits" and "family maximum benefit" when I contact SSA - getting connected with someone who actually understands these complex scenarios seems to be half the battle based on everyone's experiences here. The 11-year eligibility period for our daughter really does make this a high-stakes decision financially. Thanks for all the practical advice!

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Lucas Parker

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add some perspective on the timing considerations that haven't been fully explored yet. Given that your daughter will be eligible for benefits until she turns 18 (so for 11 years), you might want to consider a hybrid approach: have your husband continue working and delay Social Security until at least his full retirement age, while living off his firefighter pension in the meantime. This could maximize the total lifetime benefits for your family. Here's why this might make sense: If your husband's PIA under the new Fairness Act rules is around $1,833/month (to get $1,375 at age 62), waiting until full retirement age would mean he gets the full $1,833, your daughter gets up to 50% of that ($916), and the family maximum would be calculated on the higher amount. Over 11 years, this difference could be substantial. Also, something to keep in mind - your daughter's benefits will automatically stop when she turns 18 (unless she's still in high school), but your husband's benefits continue for life. So the decision isn't just about the next 11 years, but also about his lifetime benefit amount. I'd definitely recommend getting that detailed SSA projection others mentioned, but also consider consulting with a financial planner who can model out different scenarios including your pension, Social Security timing, and your daughter's education costs. The complexity of government pensions plus the new Fairness Act rules really warrants professional analysis.

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