Will I get 6 or 12 months retroactive Social Security after GPO issue resolves?
I divorced after 15 years of marriage and applied for spousal benefits on my ex's record last year. I was approved but my payments were immediately suspended due to Government Pension Offset (GPO) from my state teacher's pension. Recently, my pension administrator confirmed my pension will be recalculated, reducing it enough that I should now qualify for some spousal benefits after the GPO reduction. My question is: when SSA resolves this and lifts the suspension, will I receive retroactive payments? And if so, would it be for 6 months or the full 12 months since my benefits were initially suspended? I've heard different things from different people at my local office. My suspended benefit amount would be approximately $975/month before the GPO reduction (not sure what I'll actually get after GPO). Has anyone gone through something similar with suspended benefits that later became payable?
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Ava Martinez
my mom went thru similar thing with her pension and ss benefits but i dont think it was GPO...never heard that term before? anyway she got like 8 months back pay i think but they didnt tell her til the money showed up in her acct
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Dmitry Sokolov
•Thanks for sharing about your mom's experience. Did she have to do anything special to get the back pay or did they just process it automatically once her case was reviewed?
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Miguel Ramos
The general rule is that Social Security can provide up to 6 months of retroactive benefits for retirement and spousal claims. However, since your benefits were approved but suspended (rather than this being a new application), the situation is different. In suspension cases where eligibility changes, SSA should theoretically pay you back to the date your eligibility changed (when your pension amount decreased enough to allow partial benefits after GPO). You'll need to provide SSA with documentation showing exactly when this pension change occurred. Keep in mind that the GPO reduction is 2/3 of your pension amount, so you'll need to calculate whether your reduced pension now allows for any spousal benefit. For example, if your pension was reduced to $1,200/month, the GPO reduction would be $800, leaving you potentially eligible for $175/month from the spousal benefit.
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Dmitry Sokolov
•Thank you for explaining this so clearly! My pension is being reduced from $1,850 to about $1,350 monthly. So with the 2/3 GPO reduction, that would be about $900 taken away from my $975 spousal benefit. So I might get around $75/month? Not much but better than nothing over time.
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QuantumQuasar
DONT COUNT ON ANYTHING! My benefits were suspended for FOUR YEARS because SSA thought I was still working full time when I wasn't!!! When they finally fixed it, they only gave me 11 months backpay even though I was owed for 48 months!!! Their excuse was "administrative finality" which is BULL****!!! I fought for 2 more years and never got the rest. The whole system is rigged against us.
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Zainab Omar
•That sounds awful! I've been having similar issues trying to get through to anyone at SSA who knows what they're talking about. After 15+ calls and hours on hold, I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me so much frustration when I was dealing with my WEP recalculation. Maybe worth trying if you're still having issues getting definitive answers.
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QuantumQuasar
•Thanks for the tip! Will check that out. I've basically given up on getting my full backpay but still need to call them occasionally and ALWAYS waste an entire day trying to get through!
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Connor Gallagher
congrats on qualifying for benefits! even if it's small amount its still something
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Dmitry Sokolov
•Thank you! Yes, even a small amount adds up over time. Plus I'll take whatever I can get after paying into the system all those years.
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Yara Sayegh
I'm a retired claims specialist, and here's what should happen in your case: Since your benefits were already approved but suspended due to GPO, you should receive retroactive payments back to the date your pension amount changed, making you eligible for partial benefits. This is different from the normal 6-month retroactivity rule for new applications. You'll need to provide: 1. Documentation from your pension administrator showing when exactly the pension amount changed 2. The exact new pension amount SSA will then recalculate the GPO reduction (2/3 of your pension) and determine what portion of your spousal benefit is payable. The retroactive payment should cover the entire period from when your pension changed to present, assuming that change happened within the last 4 years (the limit for reopening determinations). Request this in writing and keep copies of everything. Processing time is typically 60-90 days for these adjustments.
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Dmitry Sokolov
•This is incredibly helpful! My pension change officially takes effect next month, so I'll make sure to get proper documentation from my pension administrator. Should I wait until after the change happens to contact SSA, or should I notify them now that this change is coming?
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Yara Sayegh
•Wait until you have the official documentation in hand showing the exact new pension amount. Then contact SSA immediately after the change takes effect. Going in with complete documentation will help avoid delays. Make sure the pension administrator's letter includes the effective date of the change and the new monthly amount. Request an appointment specifically with a claims specialist who handles post-entitlement issues related to GPO cases.
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Keisha Johnson
My husband went through something similar with his police pension and Social Security. It wasn't exactly GPO but some other offset thing (maybe WEP?). Anyway, they gave him back pay to when he first would have been eligible after his pension was recalculated which ended up being about 9 months. The money just showed up in our account one day! Took forever to get it sorted though - like 8 months of calling and paperwork.
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Dmitry Sokolov
•That gives me hope! Did they pay interest on the back pay or just the flat amount he was owed?
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Keisha Johnson
•No interest 😕 Just the exact amount he was owed for each month. But honestly we were just happy to get anything after all the confusion!
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Connor Gallagher
GPO is so confusing...good luck!!
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Ava Martinez
whats the difference between GPO and WEP again? my dad has one of those but i always mix them up
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Miguel Ramos
•GPO (Government Pension Offset) reduces spousal or survivor benefits if you receive a pension from work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. It typically reduces those benefits by 2/3 of your government pension amount. WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) reduces your own Social Security retirement benefits if you also receive a pension from work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. Simply put: GPO affects benefits you'd get from someone else's record (spouse/ex-spouse), while WEP affects benefits on your own record.
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Dmitry Sokolov
Update: I spoke with a claims specialist yesterday who confirmed I should receive retroactive payments back to the date when my pension amount changes. The specialist said I need to bring in the official letter from my pension administrator showing the new amount and effective date. Going to my appointment next week with all my documentation. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Connor Gallagher
•glad u got an answer! let us know how it goes
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