Confused about GPO and Social Security spousal benefits backdating since 2018 - can I get retroactive payments?
I'm really confused about my Social Security spousal benefits situation with the Government Pension Offset (GPO). I'm 72 and receive a state pension where I didn't pay into Social Security. My husband has been collecting SS retirement since 2015, and I've been on his Medicare since 2018. When I check my account on the SS website, it shows my benefits were "suspended" in 2018, but I never actually applied for or received any spousal benefits back then! I just applied for GPO-reduced spousal benefits in January 2024 and wondering if I'm entitled to retroactive payments from 2018 when the "suspension" supposedly started? Or maybe just 6 months of backpay from my January 2024 application? The representative I spoke with seemed confused about my situation. Has anyone dealt with GPO and retroactive benefits before?
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Lucas Turner
Your situation is definitely confusing but I think I understand what happened. If your benefits show as "suspended" since 2018, that was probably when you enrolled in Medicare through your husband's record. The SSA system sometimes automatically creates a spousal benefit record when you enroll in Medicare through a spouse, even if you haven't applied for actual benefits. Since you have a non-covered pension subject to GPO, you likely won't get retroactive benefits all the way back to 2018 because you hadn't actually filed an application. However, you should be eligible for up to 6 months of retroactive benefits from your January 2024 application date, assuming your GPO reduction still leaves you with some spousal benefit amount. I struggled with a similar situation last year trying to get through to SSA for clarification.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you for explaining! That makes sense about the Medicare connection. Do you know if I need to specifically request the 6-month retroactive payment or will SSA automatically calculate that? I'm worried they might just start payments from my application approval date.
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Kai Rivera
they probly wont give u back pay to 2018. my mom got state pension too and they only gave her 6 months retroactive when she applied at 70. GPO took most of her spousal anyway, only got like $214/month after offset
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Eleanor Foster
•Thanks for sharing about your mom's experience. My GPO reduction is pretty significant too, but even $200 a month adds up! I guess I should just expect the 6 months and be happy if I get that much.
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Anna Stewart
The SSA system is so confusing when it comes to GPO cases! I've worked with the Social Security Administration for years, and here's what's likely happening: When you enrolled in Medicare in 2018 through your husband's record, a spousal benefit entitlement record was created but immediately suspended due to your non-covered pension (the GPO situation). This doesn't mean you were entitled to payments then - just that the system created a record. For retroactive benefits: SSA can only pay up to 6 months retroactive for retirement/spousal claims filed after FRA (which you are at 72). So the earliest your benefits could start would be July/August 2023 (depending on when in January 2024 you applied). You will NOT get payments back to 2018 regardless of what the system shows as "suspended." Make sure when they process your claim that they correctly calculate your GPO reduction. The offset is 2/3 of your non-covered pension amount. So if your state pension is $3,000/month, your spousal benefit would be reduced by $2,000. If your unreduced spousal amount would be less than the reduction, you might not receive any payment at all.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you SO much for this detailed explanation! That really helps me understand what's happening. Yes, my state pension is about $3,750/month, and my husband's PIA is around $2,800, so I think after the GPO reduction I'll still get a small spousal benefit. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving money on the table if I was actually entitled to something since 2018!
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Layla Sanders
THEY ALWAYS DO THIS!!! I've been fighting with Social Security for 14 months about my GPO situation. They keep giving different answers every time I call. One says I'm entitled to retroactive, another says no. I'm also a retired teacher with state pension. I've called at least 9 times and got disconnected or given wrong info EVERY TIME. The whole GPO rule is unfair anyway - we earned our pensions AND should get full Social Security spousal benefits like everyone else!!
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Eleanor Foster
•I feel your frustration! It does seem unfair after working so many years. And the inconsistent information is maddening. Did you ever get your situation resolved or are you still fighting with them?
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Morgan Washington
I went through this exact situation last year! I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an SSA agent quickly after weeks of trying on my own. Got connected in under 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days before that. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with explained that the "suspended" status happens automatically with Medicare enrollment through a spouse. For GPO cases, they confirmed I could only get 6 months retroactive from my application date, not all the way back to when Medicare started. Make sure you have your pension information ready when you call - they'll need the exact monthly amount to calculate your GPO reduction correctly.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you for the suggestion! I'll check out that service. I've been calling for weeks and either get disconnected or told different things each time. Having my pension details ready is good advice - I have my award letter and payment history ready to go.
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Kai Rivera
•does that claimyr thing actually work? i tried calling SS for my mom like 10 times and waited 2+ hours each time then got disconnected
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Kaylee Cook
I think there's a lot of confusion here about what GPO actually does. GPO doesn't completely eliminate your spousal benefit - it reduces it by 2/3 of your non-covered pension amount. So if your spousal benefit would be $1000 normally, and your state pension is $1200, your reduction would be $800 (2/3 of $1200), leaving you with a $200 spousal benefit. As for retroactive benefits, federal law only allows 6 months of retroactive payments for retirement and spousal benefits filed after full retirement age. The fact that your record shows "suspended" since 2018 doesn't change this limitation. When you apply for Medicare through a spouse, the system creates a benefit record but doesn't actually entitle you to payments until you file an application. You should request the 6 months of retroactive benefits explicitly when you talk to SSA. Make sure they understand you're applying for spousal benefits subject to GPO, and you want the maximum retroactive benefits allowed by law.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you for the clear explanation of how GPO works. I'll definitely explicitly request the 6 months retroactive when I speak with them next. I calculated that after the GPO reduction I should get about $270/month in spousal benefits, so getting that back 6 months would be meaningful.
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Oliver Alexander
i had a similar thing happen to me but with regular spousal benefits (no gpo for me). when i finally figured out i could get some benefits on my husbands record they only gave me 6 months back pay even tho i could have filed 3 years earlier. they said something about that being the law for retroactive retirement benefits. so frustrating!!
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Anna Stewart
•Yes, that's correct. For retirement and spousal benefits, the maximum retroactive payment is 6 months, and that's only if you're already past your full retirement age when you apply. It's different for disability claims, which can go back 12 months. It's important for everyone to understand these limitations and apply as soon as they're eligible!
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Eleanor Foster
•I'm sorry that happened to you too! At least I know now I'm not alone in this confusion. I wish they would make these rules clearer or proactively let us know when we're eligible for benefits.
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Lucas Turner
I just went back and looked at the actual law on GPO retroactivity. Specifically, your spousal application can only be made retroactive for up to 6 months from the date you actually filed (January 2024), assuming you were already past full retirement age (which at 72, you definitely are). The "suspended" status from 2018 is irrelevant for payment purposes - it's just how their system tracks Medicare-only entitlement through your husband's record. Here's what to do: When you talk to SSA again, ask them to review your application with specific attention to the maximum retroactive benefits allowed under law. Bring your pension information showing monthly amount. Be prepared to make multiple calls - I had to call five times before finding someone who understood the GPO rules correctly. I found the best time to call is right when they open in the morning.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you for looking into this further and for the advice on when to call. I'll try calling right when they open. Should I mention anything specific about the law or regulation regarding the 6-month retroactivity to help the representative understand my situation better?
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Layla Sanders
Hey did you ever get this resolved? I'm in almost the EXACT same situation... on medicare thru my husband since 2017, state teacher pension, just applied for spousal benefits in February. Nobody at SS seems to understand how GPO works!
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Eleanor Foster
•Not yet - still working on it! From what everyone here has told me, it sounds like I'll only get 6 months of retroactive benefits from my January application date, not back to 2018. But I'm still having trouble getting consistent answers from SSA representatives. I'll update here if I get a resolution!
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