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I just found out I might have missed out on Social Security benefits and I'm kicking myself. My ex-husband passed away at age 58 (I'm 5 years younger). He had been receiving SSDI for several years before his death. I'm now 66, and I started taking survivor benefits when I turned 60 after getting diagnosed with a chronic health condition. The thing is, someone recently told me I might have been eligible for spousal benefits based on his disability while he was still alive. I was only 53 when he died, so I'm not sure if I would have qualified then anyway? We were married for 22 years if that matters. Is there any way to claim these benefits retroactively if I was eligible? Or am I just out of luck? Does anyone know if the 10-year marriage rule applies differently for disability vs. retirement benefits for ex-spouses?
I'm helping my wife figure out her Social Security timing and we're confused about the earnings test. She turns 65 in July 2025 and wants to retire next August (at 65 yrs 1 month). Here's what's complicating things: 1) Her company pays a retirement bonus in September (around $4,800) 2) We have a rental property that her sister manages, paying us $6,750 yearly in November 3) In December, her sister also pays a lump sum of $5,400 for maintenance help throughout the year Should my wife wait to start SS until after receiving the September bonus? And for the rental/maintenance income, should we ask her sister to spread these payments monthly instead of lump sums? Or should we try to get all payments before her official retirement date? I'm so confused about how the earnings test works with these irregular payments and don't want to lose any benefits if she exceeds the limit. Any advice?
Not to get off topic but make sure ur checking the tax implications to! When I retired at 63 I had SS + part time work and got surprised by how social security is taxed when u have other income. Up to 85% of benefits can be taxable if ur over certain thresholds.
Good point. For 2025, if combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits) exceeds $25,000 for an individual or $32,000 for a couple filing jointly, up to 50% of benefits become taxable. Above $34,000 individual/$44,000 couple, up to 85% becomes taxable. Definitely something to consider in retirement planning.
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your planning. Since your wife will be retiring in August, you should also think about how the timing affects her annual earnings record for Social Security benefit calculations. If she's close to her highest 35 years of earnings, working those extra months in 2025 could potentially increase her average indexed monthly earnings (AIME) and boost her benefit amount. This might offset some of the complications with the earnings test. Also, regarding the maintenance payments - if her sister is paying her as an independent contractor for property maintenance, make sure you're keeping detailed records of when the work was actually performed versus when payment is received. This documentation will be crucial if SSA questions the timing of those earnings. Have you considered having her sister put the maintenance payments on a more regular schedule starting in 2025? Even quarterly payments would be easier to track than one annual lump sum in December.
I'm trying to help my sister figure out her options as she approaches her Full Retirement Age. She's currently 56 and receiving SSDI. From what we understand, when she turns 67 (her FRA), her disability benefits will automatically convert to retirement benefits. Here's what we're wondering: since she was married to her ex for 17 years before divorcing, could she choose NOT to take her own retirement at 67 and instead claim 50% of her ex-husband's benefit? He's older and will definitely have filed by then. This would potentially allow her to delay claiming her own retirement benefit until 70 to maximize it. Or does being on SSDI already lock her into taking her own retirement at 67? The difference could be significant for her long-term financial security. Thanks for any insights!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've learned so much. To summarize what I understand now: Since my sister was born after 1954, when her SSDI converts to retirement at 67, she has to choose either her own benefit OR 50% of her ex's (whichever is higher) - she can't do one then switch to the other. I'll help her set up a my Social Security account to see her projected benefit amount and then we'll try to figure out what her ex might be receiving to compare. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this complicated situation!
One final tip - when her time comes to make this decision, have her schedule an appointment with SSA rather than just calling or walking in. An actual appointment gives her the best chance of speaking with someone knowledgeable about these complex scenarios involving SSDI conversion and divorced spouse benefits. And bring all documentation about the marriage and divorce to that appointment.
Just wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your sister's ex-husband hasn't filed for his own benefits yet, she might still be able to claim divorced spouse benefits even if he's just eligible (age 62+). The rule is that if they've been divorced for at least 2 years, she can claim on his record even if he hasn't actually applied yet. This could be relevant depending on his age and filing status. Also, make sure she understands that claiming divorced spouse benefits won't affect what her ex receives - it's completely independent of his benefits. Good luck navigating all this!
Hi everyone! I've been trying to understand my retirement options but the SSA website is confusing me. I'll be eligible for about $333/month from my own work record when I reach my full retirement age. My husband and I have been married for over 30 years, and he'll be getting about $4,000/month when he claims at his full retirement age (66). I'm wondering if I can get the "spousal top-off" benefit at my FRA? Does that mean I would get my $333 PLUS half of his benefit? Or is it just the difference between my benefit and half of his? I'm so confused about how this all works! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
After reading all these comments, I'd suggest you have a one-on-one consultation with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies. With a significant difference between your benefit amounts, proper timing could make a substantial difference in your lifetime benefits, especially considering survivor benefits down the road. While the spousal benefit won't increase if your husband delays claiming, survivor benefits would be based on his actual benefit amount including any delayed retirement credits.
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who recently navigated this! I was in a very similar situation - my own benefit was around $400/month and my husband's was $3,800. The key thing that helped me understand it was when the SSA representative explained that you essentially get "topped up" to the higher amount. So you're not losing your own work credits - they're still there as the foundation - but you get supplemented up to that 50% spousal amount. Also, definitely recommend keeping detailed notes when you talk to SSA reps because I got slightly different explanations from different people, which was confusing. The bottom line for me was getting about $1,900/month total (50% of his PIA) instead of my $400. Make sure you understand the timing requirements too - I had to wait until after my husband filed, but once he did, the process was pretty straightforward. Good luck!
I started collecting my Social Security retirement benefits early at age 63, and now I'm 65 and 2 months. According to what I've researched, my full retirement age (FRA) is 66 and 10 months since I was born in December 1959. I'm confused about whether my monthly benefit amount will automatically increase when I reach my FRA, or if I'm permanently stuck with the reduced amount I'm getting now (plus any cost of living adjustments). Also, my husband is currently 67 and 3 months, so he's already past his FRA. His benefit amount is significantly higher than mine. I've heard something about 'spousal benefits' or a 'spousal top-up' - would I qualify for that if my benefit is less than half of his? Do I need to apply for that separately or does it happen automatically? I'd really appreciate any information from people who've been through this before. The SSA website is confusing me more than helping!
my aunt went thru this last year. she got the spousal increase but had to fight for backpay. they only gave her 6 months backpay even tho she shoulda been getting it for 2+ years! make sure u ask about retroactive benefits when u apply
I'm in a very similar situation - took my benefits at 62 and just turned 64. Reading through all these responses has been really eye-opening! I had no idea about the spousal benefits potentially being available. My husband's benefit is about $2,800/month and mine is only $1,100, so it sounds like I should definitely look into this. One question for those who've successfully gotten the spousal benefit - did you need to bring any specific documentation when you applied, or do they have everything they need in their system already? I want to be prepared when I call so I don't waste the opportunity if I actually get through to someone! Also, @Sean Murphy, thanks for mentioning that Claimyr service - I'm definitely going to look into that since the thought of sitting on hold for hours is making me put this off.
Ravi Sharma
I'm glad you found this community helpful! Just wanted to add one more point that might be useful - since you're receiving survivor benefits, you should also be aware that these benefits can continue for life as long as you don't remarry before age 60 (which you've already passed). If you do decide to remarry in the future, you'd still keep your survivor benefits since you're over 60. Also, if your own work record continues to grow (if you're still working), you can always request SSA to recalculate your own retirement benefit in the future to see if it eventually becomes higher than your survivor benefit. The system allows you to switch between the two if circumstances change.
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Benjamin Johnson
I'm really glad to see how this community came together to help clarify your situation! As someone who's dealt with Social Security questions for family members, I can confirm that the information shared here is accurate. The age 62 requirement for divorced spousal benefits is indeed a firm rule, and you absolutely did the right thing by claiming survivor benefits at 60. One thing I'd like to add that might be helpful for others reading this thread - if anyone finds themselves in a similar situation where they're unsure about benefit timing, SSA does offer benefit estimates through their online portal at ssa.gov. You can create a my Social Security account and run different scenarios to see projected benefit amounts at various claiming ages. It's a great tool for planning purposes. Your decision to stick with the higher survivor benefit of $2,125 versus your own retirement benefit of $1,980 is definitely the smart financial choice. And as others mentioned, you have the flexibility to reassess this if your work record changes significantly in the future.
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