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Just to clarify something that might be confusing - when we talk about your "spousal benefit" in this scenario, you're not actually switching from your retirement benefit to a spousal benefit. Instead, you'll receive your own reduced retirement benefit PLUS a spousal add-on amount (if you qualify for one based on the calculations). The deemed filing rules mean that when you file for one benefit (retirement), you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for at that time. This prevents people from selecting one benefit type now and another later to maximize payments. Definitely contact SSA to see what additional amount you might receive. The application process for the spousal component is relatively straightforward once you get through to a representative.

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Thank you for this explanation! I was definitely confused and thought I would be switching from one benefit to another. This makes more sense now - I'll be getting an add-on rather than a replacement benefit. I appreciate everyone's help in understanding this complicated system!

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I went through this exact same situation about 2 years ago! Filed early at 62 and was getting around $950/month when my husband finally started collecting his $2,400 at FRA. I was so hopeful I'd get a big boost but ended up with only about $180 extra per month as a spousal add-on. The SSA calculator they use is pretty complex but here's what I learned: they take 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (his benefit at FRA before any delayed credits), subtract your own PIA, and then reduce that difference based on when you filed early. In my case, since I filed 4 years and 10 months before my FRA, the reduction was significant. Don't get discouraged though - that extra $180 has really helped, especially with rising costs. And like others said, definitely apply soon because they only backpay 6 months maximum. I made the mistake of waiting 8 months after my husband started collecting and lost out on some money. Good luck!

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i had something simlar happn but it was bcause i was on SSI not retirment. SSI is the one that gets reduced when u marry someone with income. reglar social secrity retirement stays the same no matter who u marry or how rich they are. my uncle married a really rich lady and still gets his full SS check every month lol

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Just wanted to jump in as someone who went through this exact worry! My husband and I got married when he was already collecting his retirement benefits at 67, and I was terrified his payments would change. They didn't! His monthly deposit has stayed exactly the same for the past two years since our marriage. The SSA website has a really helpful tool called the Retirement Estimator that can give you an idea of what your own benefits might look like when you're ready to claim at 67. That way you can compare it to potential spousal benefits. Also, I'd recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it shows your earnings record and projected benefits, which makes planning so much easier than trying to guess. Your husband's neighbor probably meant well, but it sounds like they were thinking of a different situation entirely. Congratulations on your marriage, and don't let this stress you out unnecessarily!

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Just to add one more important detail: The "deemed filing" rules changed in 2015. For anyone born after January 1, 1954, when you file for either your retirement or spousal benefit, you are "deemed" to have filed for both. This eliminated some filing strategies that older retirees could use. In your case, when you file, the SSA will automatically give you the higher of either your own benefit or the spousal benefit. But since your own benefit is less than 50% of your husband's, you'll receive your own benefit plus the difference to reach that 50% threshold (assuming you both file at FRA).

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Thank you! We were both born after 1954, so the deemed filing rules apply to us. It's good to know that SSA will automatically calculate the best option when I file. This has all been really helpful!

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One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - you mentioned you're both turning 62 next year. Even though you CAN start claiming at 62, the reduction is pretty significant. For someone with a full retirement age of 67 (which applies to people born in 1960 or later), claiming at 62 means your benefit is reduced to about 75% of what you'd get at FRA. So in your case, instead of getting your $1,250 plus the $450 spousal supplement (total $1,700), you'd get about 75% of that if you claim at 62. That's a permanent reduction that doesn't go away later. I'd strongly recommend running the numbers on waiting even just a year or two if you can swing it financially. The SSA's retirement estimator tool can show you exactly how much more you'd get by waiting. Sometimes even working part-time for a couple more years while delaying Social Security can make a big difference in your monthly income for the rest of your life.

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I haven't tried going in person yet, but that's a great suggestion. The office is about 40 minutes away, so it's not too bad. I've just been avoiding it because I heard the wait times can be long even with an appointment. But it might be worth it to get this sorted out face-to-face with someone who can look at all my documentation at once.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Rachel. This situation is unfortunately common but can definitely be resolved with the new WEP/GPO changes. Since you were a teacher in a non-covered state for 22 years, WEP was definitely reducing your benefit. Here's what I'd recommend as your next steps: 1. **Don't wait for automatic recalculation** - While SSA says they'll do it automatically, being proactive is smart given how overwhelmed they are with these changes. 2. **Schedule an in-person appointment** - I know it's 40 minutes away, but for something this complex, face-to-face is often more effective. You can bring all your documents and they can review everything at once. 3. **Bring specific documents**: your original denial letter, marriage certificate, death certificate, and any correspondence about WEP reductions. 4. **Ask specific questions**: - What was your exact benefit amount before and after WEP? - What would your survivor benefit be without any reductions? - When exactly will they recalculate as WEP phases out? The phase-out means your WEP reduction will decrease by 20% each year starting in 2025. If this makes your survivor benefit higher than your own benefit at any point, they should automatically switch you. You've got this! The new law is designed to help people exactly like you.

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When dealing with the earnings limit adjustments, timing is crucial. Since you're past the 30-day mark with no response, I'd recommend a three-pronged approach: 1. Call the national number first thing in the morning (they open at 8am local time) when wait times are shortest 2. Schedule an appointment at your local office through the SSA website rather than just showing up - this saves tremendous time 3. Send a follow-up letter via certified mail with return receipt requested so you have proof of delivery Also, make sure you understand exactly how the adjustment will work. When you reach FRA, SSA will automatically recalculate your benefit to give you credit for months when benefits were reduced or withheld. This results in a higher monthly payment going forward. However, if their earnings record for you is incorrect, that calculation will be wrong, so getting this fixed now is important. Don't worry too much about the late response - as long as you've provided the documentation, they should process it correctly even if it takes some time.

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This is excellent advice, thank you so much for the detailed information! I didn't realize I could schedule an appointment at the local office - that's definitely better than just showing up and waiting all day. I'll try calling tomorrow morning right when they open, and if that doesn't work, I'll schedule that appointment. The certified mail is a great idea too.

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I'm dealing with a similar earnings verification issue right now! Been waiting 6 weeks since I sent in my W-2s and pay stubs. The anxiety is real when you're missing out on benefits you're entitled to. One thing that helped me was creating a detailed timeline of everything - when I received notices, when I sent documentation, etc. When I finally got through to someone at SSA, having those dates ready made the conversation much more productive. Also, if you do go to the local office, bring EVERYTHING - copies of your original notices, copies of what you sent them, your W-2s, recent pay stubs, even bank statements if you have them. The more documentation you have, the better they can help you on the spot. Hang in there - from what everyone's saying here, it sounds like these adjustments do eventually get processed, just not in any reasonable timeframe. The system is definitely broken but at least you'll get your money back at FRA even if this takes forever to resolve.

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