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I'm in a very similar situation with irregular commission income! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple tracking spreadsheet from the start. I track every payment date, amount, and type (regular salary vs commission) as soon as I receive it. When I applied for benefits, I brought printouts showing my payment history for the past 6 months and estimates for the rest of the year. The SSA rep was really appreciative that I had everything organized and it made the interview go much smoother. Also, don't stress too much about the earnings test calculations - once you get your first annual report form from SSA, it walks you through everything step by step. The key is just keeping good records from day one so you're not scrambling later to remember when you got paid what amount. Your brother sounds like he's in good shape if he's only looking at 2 months over the limit for 2025!
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was hoping to find! Creating a tracking spreadsheet from the beginning is such a smart idea. I'm going to help my brother set something up like that before he applies so we're organized from day one. It's reassuring to hear that the SSA rep appreciated having everything documented - we were worried they might think we were overthinking it. But it sounds like being prepared actually makes their job easier too. Thanks for sharing your experience with the annual report process. It's helpful to know what to expect down the road. With only 2 months projected over the limit, this is definitely more manageable than we initially thought!
As someone who recently went through this process with quarterly bonuses, I can confirm what others have said - SSA definitely goes by payment date, not when the income was earned. One additional tip: when your brother applies, he should ask the SSA representative to put a note in his file about his quarterly commission structure. This way, when he does his annual earnings report, there's already a record that his income pattern was discussed upfront. It can help avoid questions or delays during the review process. Also, since he's starting benefits mid-year in July, he'll want to be extra careful about those September and December commission months. Even though it's only 2 months over the limit, make sure he reports those expected amounts during his application interview so there are no surprises. Good luck to your brother!
That's such a valuable tip about asking SSA to put a note in his file about the quarterly commission structure! I hadn't thought about that but it makes total sense - having it documented upfront could save a lot of headaches later. We'll definitely make sure to mention that when he applies and ask them to add it to his record. You're absolutely right about being careful with those September and December months. Since those will be his first few months receiving benefits, we want to make sure everything is reported accurately from the start. Better to over-communicate about the commission structure than have them think we're trying to hide something. Thanks for sharing your experience with quarterly bonuses - it's really helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process!
I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and still working, earning about $80k annually, while my husband just turned 65 and his SSDI converted to retirement benefits. Reading through all these responses, it seems like the key factors are: 1. Your own benefit amount vs. spousal benefit amount 2. Your current earnings level 3. Whether you plan to keep working past FRA Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like for most people still working with decent salaries, waiting until FRA makes the most sense. The earnings test would just wipe out most benefits anyway, and if your own benefit is higher than spousal, there's really no advantage to filing early. Has anyone here actually tried using that my.ssa.gov benefit calculator to compare scenarios? I've looked at mine but find it confusing to figure out exactly what I'd get under different timing options.
Welcome to the community! You've summarized the key points perfectly. I found the my.ssa.gov calculator pretty confusing at first too, but here's what helped me: focus on the "estimated monthly benefit" section and compare your projected benefit at FRA versus what 50% of your husband's benefit would be. The calculator also shows you what your reduced benefit would be if you filed early, but like everyone's mentioned, with your $80k salary, the earnings test would likely wipe out most payments anyway. One tip - you can also call SSA and ask them to mail you a more detailed benefit estimate that breaks down different scenarios, which some people find easier to understand than the online version. Given your situation mirrors the original poster's so closely, waiting until your FRA seems like the smart move!
I'm new to this community but going through almost the exact same situation! I'm 65, still working full-time making about $68,000, and my husband's SSDI just converted to retirement benefits when he turned 65 last month. Reading through all these responses has been so enlightening - I had no idea about the "deemed filing" rule or how the earnings test actually works. I've been stressing about whether I should apply for something NOW, but it sounds like with my salary level, most benefits would just get withheld anyway. One question I haven't seen addressed - if I wait until my FRA to file, will there be any issues with the fact that my husband's benefits converted from SSDI to retirement? Does that timing affect my eligibility for spousal benefits at all, or is it just treated the same as if he had regular retirement benefits all along? Also, has anyone here actually received those calculation worksheets that were mentioned? I called SSA twice but couldn't get through, and I'm wondering if it's worth trying that Claimyr service that was suggested or if I should just be patient and keep trying the regular number. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this has been more helpful than anything I found on the SSA website!
To directly answer your original question - yes, the maximum benefit for someone filing at FRA is increasing for 2025, and yes, this is separate from the COLA adjustment. The COLA applies to people already receiving benefits, while the maximum benefit calculation applies to new filers. However, this doesn't mean you'll get more than a 2.5% increase overall. Your benefit is calculated based on your own earnings history, not on what the maximum potential benefit is. The only way this affects you personally is through small adjustments to the PIA calculation formula that happens each year. For most people, these formula adjustments result in very small differences - we're talking about maybe $5-15 per month different than if you had filed with the exact same earnings history the previous year. Your claiming age and earnings history are FAR more important factors in determining your benefit amount.
Just to add another perspective here - I work in benefits consulting and help people navigate SS claims regularly. The confusion around maximum benefits vs COLA is super common, but here's the key thing to remember: unless you've been a very high earner for most of your career, these year-to-year changes in the maximum benefit calculation won't meaningfully impact your actual benefit amount. What WILL impact your benefit significantly is making sure you have an accurate earnings record with SSA before you file. I always tell my clients to create a my.ssa.gov account and review their earnings history at least 6 months before filing. I've seen cases where missing or incorrect earnings records cost people hundreds of dollars per month in benefits. Also, don't stress too much about timing your application to the exact month - focus more on whether you want to claim at FRA, delay for delayed retirement credits, or claim early with reduced benefits. That decision will have a much bigger impact on your monthly payment than any formula adjustments.
just want 2 add - make sure u keep good records! my mom had issues proving my dads income when he passed & it took MONTHS to sort out with SS. keep copies of EVERYTHING
This thread has been super helpful! I'm in a similar situation where I'm considering delaying my benefits to maximize what my husband would get as a survivor. One thing I'm curious about - does anyone know if there are any tax implications we should consider? Like, would the higher survivor benefit amount put my husband in a different tax bracket that might affect the overall value? I know Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on other income, but I'm not sure how that works with survivor benefits specifically.
That's a really good question about the tax implications! I hadn't thought about that angle. From what I understand, survivor benefits are taxed the same way as regular Social Security benefits - so if your husband has other income sources like pensions or retirement account withdrawals, the higher survivor benefit could potentially push more of his Social Security into taxable territory. The thresholds are pretty low too - I think it's around $25,000 for single filers where benefits start becoming taxable. You might want to run some numbers or talk to a tax professional to see how the higher benefit amount would affect his overall tax situation. It's probably still worth it in most cases, but definitely something to factor into the decision!
Great point about the tax implications! You're right that it's worth considering. From my understanding, survivor benefits are subject to the same taxation rules as regular Social Security - up to 85% can be taxable depending on your "combined income" (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of Social Security benefits). For single filers, if combined income is between $25,000-$34,000, up to 50% of benefits are taxable, and above $34,000, up to 85% can be taxable. So yes, a higher survivor benefit could potentially push more into taxable territory, but you'd still come out ahead overall. The extra $1,100/month would need to result in a pretty significant tax increase to negate the benefit. Definitely worth running the numbers though - maybe use a tax calculator or consult with a tax professional to see the real impact in your specific situation!
Brian Downey
You're doing the right thing by planning ahead! I work with SSA cases and see this situation frequently. Your wife absolutely should apply for SSDI now - not just for potential immediate benefits, but to establish her disability onset date in the system. This is crucial because if something happens to you, she'll need that official disability determination to qualify for disabled widow benefits before age 60. One thing I'd add to what others have mentioned: make sure she applies within the statute of limitations. Generally, you have 5 years from your disability onset date to file for SSDI. If her health issues started 12 years ago, she might need to be strategic about documenting when her condition became severe enough to prevent work. Also, even if she's initially denied (which happens to about 65% of first-time applicants), don't give up. The appeals process exists for a reason, and having that denial on record still helps establish when she first sought disability recognition, which could be important for future survivor claims.
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Lauren Wood
•That's really valuable insight about the 5-year statute of limitations - I hadn't thought about that timing issue at all. Since her severe symptoms started about 12 years ago, should we be documenting when she actually had to stop working or when her condition worsened to the point of being disabling? I want to make sure we approach this correctly from the start.
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Evelyn Xu
This is such an important topic that more couples need to understand! I went through something similar with my parents. My dad was receiving SSDI and my mom had chronic conditions but never applied because his benefits covered their needs. When he passed away unexpectedly, we learned the hard way about these rules. What really helped us was understanding that there are actually two separate things happening here: your wife establishing her own disability status with SSA, and the future potential for survivor benefits. Even if her SSDI application results in $0 monthly payments (due to family maximum rules or other factors), having that official disability determination is what opens the door for early survivor benefits. One thing I'd strongly recommend is keeping detailed records of her medical appointments, treatments, and how her conditions affect daily activities. The SSA will want to see a clear picture of her functional limitations, not just diagnoses. Also, if she hasn't seen doctors recently for her conditions, it might be worth scheduling some appointments to get current medical evidence before applying. You're being really smart to think about this now rather than waiting. The peace of mind alone is worth going through the application process.
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Landon Flounder
•This is really helpful advice, thank you! I hadn't considered that she might get $0 in monthly payments but still have the disability determination on file - that makes total sense. We definitely need to get her back to seeing doctors regularly for her conditions. She's been managing with her current medications but hasn't had recent evaluations that would show how her conditions have progressed. I'll start scheduling those appointments before we begin the application process.
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