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does anyone know if the FRA is different for SSI? my cousin gets SSI not regular Social Security and she said theres no FRA for that
Your cousin is correct. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is completely different from SSDI or retirement benefits. SSI is a needs-based program for disabled, blind, or elderly people with very limited income and resources. It has no FRA concept since it's not based on work credits or retirement age. The FRA only applies to retirement benefits, spousal benefits, and survivor benefits.
I'm in a very similar situation - started collecting at 62 in early 2024 and my FRA is also in December 2025. Reading through all these responses has been really educational! I had the same hope that maybe there would be some kind of increase at FRA, but now I understand that's not how it works. The one thing that gives me some comfort is knowing that if I keep working (even part-time), there's still potential for small increases if my current earnings replace some of my lower earning years from the past. Plus the annual COLA adjustments help with inflation. For anyone else reading this who hasn't filed yet - definitely consider waiting if you can afford to. The permanent reduction is no joke. But for those of us who already filed early, at least we know what to expect and can plan accordingly. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge here. This community is so helpful!
Update: I went back to the closer office (in the neighboring county) today, and guess what? They helped me with no problem! The rep even apologized for the misinformation I was given last time. They accepted my SSA-44 form and all my documentation showing our income drop after retirement. She said I should receive a decision letter in about 2-3 weeks. Thank you all for giving me the confidence to go back and try again!
That's wonderful news! So glad it worked out for you. This is exactly why it's so important to be persistent with Social Security. The rules are complex, and not every employee knows all the policies correctly. Congratulations on getting it resolved!
Fantastic update! This is exactly why persistence pays off with Social Security issues. Your experience perfectly illustrates what many of us have been saying - the first person you talk to isn't always the most knowledgeable, and policies can be misunderstood or misapplied. For anyone else reading this thread who might face similar IRMAA issues: Mason's success story shows that retirement-related income drops ARE valid life-changing events, ANY Social Security office can help you (not just your county), and sometimes you just need to try again if you get incorrect information the first time. Hoping your appeal gets approved quickly and you get those surcharges removed retroactively. Thanks for coming back to update us - it really helps future folks who might search this community for IRMAA advice!
I'm really glad to see how this community came together to help you navigate such a complex situation, Oliver. Your plan sounds excellent based on all the detailed advice you've received here. One small additional tip that might save you some time: if you do end up visiting a local SSA office instead of calling, try to go early in the morning right when they open, or consider scheduling an appointment online if your local office offers that option. Walk-ins can sometimes wait hours, especially at the end of the month when benefit payments are processed. Also, when you do get your husband's PIA documentation, double-check that it includes any delayed retirement credits or special provisions that might have applied to his case. Sometimes these details can get overlooked but could affect your final survivor benefit amount. You've got a really solid strategy laid out, and it's clear you're approaching this thoughtfully despite dealing with such difficult circumstances. Best of luck with everything!
Thank you for the practical tips about visiting the SSA office, Mei! I hadn't considered the timing aspect - going early when they open is a great suggestion. I'm actually going to try the online appointment scheduling first since my nearest office is about 30 minutes away and I'd rather not waste a trip if I can avoid it. Your point about double-checking for delayed retirement credits is interesting too - I'm not sure if any applied to my husband's case since he was on SSDI, but I'll definitely ask about that when I get his PIA documentation. It's amazing how many little details can impact the final numbers. Thanks again for the helpful advice!
I'm so sorry for your loss, Oliver. What a difficult situation to navigate while you're still grieving. I wanted to add one more consideration to all the excellent advice you've received: since you mentioned living mostly on savings right now, you might want to factor in the impact of early withdrawal penalties or taxes on those savings when comparing the timing of your Social Security claiming strategies. If taking your reduced retirement benefit at 63 means you can preserve more of your savings (and avoid potential penalties), that could outweigh some of the reduction in monthly benefits. Conversely, if you can comfortably live on savings until your FRA without significant tax consequences, waiting might be better. Also, don't forget that once you start receiving Social Security benefits, up to 85% of those benefits could be taxable depending on your total income (including your part-time work). This is another factor to discuss with SSA when they run your scenarios. You're handling this incredibly well given the circumstances. The strategy you've outlined based on everyone's input sounds very sensible. I hope you're able to get through to SSA soon and get the exact numbers you need to make the final decision with confidence.
Omar, that's such an important point about the tax implications that I hadn't fully considered! You're absolutely right that I should factor in the potential taxes and penalties on my savings withdrawals versus the taxes on Social Security benefits. Since my part-time income is $24,000 and I'd be adding either my retirement or survivor benefits on top of that, I could definitely hit that threshold where benefits become taxable. I should probably talk to a tax professional about this aspect too, not just SSA. It's incredible how many interconnected pieces there are to this puzzle. Thank you for bringing up this angle - it could really impact which strategy ends up being most beneficial in the long run!
btw my aunt did get survivor benefits after my uncle died in prison. took almost 3 months to process tho so dont expect it right away if it happens. and she said they made her fill out extra forms but it worked out in the end
I want to add something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your husband does pass away while incarcerated, you'll need to apply for survivor benefits as soon as possible. There's no automatic conversion from your current retirement benefit to the higher survivor benefit. You'll need to contact SSA and specifically apply for widow's benefits. Also, make sure the prison has your current contact information so they can reach you if anything happens. The sooner you apply after a death, the sooner you can start receiving the higher benefit amount. Some people wait months or even years before applying, not realizing they need to take action. Don't let bureaucratic delays cost you money you're entitled to.
This is such important information that I hadn't thought about - thank you for pointing out that it's not automatic! I was assuming SSA would just switch me over if something happened, but you're right that I need to actively apply. I'll make sure the prison has my current phone number and address. Do you know if there's a time limit on applying for survivor benefits, or is it just that you lose money for each month you delay applying?
Chloe Taylor
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm actually planning to file for benefits in May 2025 (turning 67 then) and had the exact same concerns about COLA timing. It's really reassuring to see so many people confirm that new beneficiaries automatically get the current year's COLA built into their initial benefit amount. I've been trying to research this for weeks and the SSA website just wasn't clear about it. The fact that your PIA gets updated every January regardless of when you start collecting makes total sense from a fairness perspective - nobody should be penalized for their timing within the year. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially those who went through this recently. This gives me much more confidence in my retirement planning!
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Miguel Harvey
•I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! I was in the exact same position a few months ago - trying to figure out all these Social Security timing questions and feeling overwhelmed by how confusing the official materials can be. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you hear from real people who've actually been through the process. The community here has been such a great resource for getting straight answers about these kinds of practical questions. Good luck with your May filing - sounds like you'll be all set with the COLA information now!
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StarStrider
I'm also planning to retire soon and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea that the COLA increases were automatically built into your PIA even before you start collecting. It makes me feel much better about my decision to wait until my FRA instead of filing early. One thing I'm curious about - does this same principle apply to delayed retirement credits? If someone waits until after their FRA to file, do those credits also get adjusted for COLA increases? I know DRCs accrue at 8% per year, but I'm wondering if that percentage gets applied to the COLA-adjusted PIA or the original amount. Thanks again to everyone for sharing their knowledge and experiences!
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